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Etherprint plus EtherTalk to LocalTalk converter — help with connection type BNC [message #385599] Thu, 01 August 2019 21:57 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

Got the wrong NOS from an order on EBay looking to see if I can still use it while I wait to hear from the seller.

The EtherPrint - T I ordered has an rj45 connector the Etherprint Plus that I got does not.

Does anyone know if there is an adapter from BNC connector to RJ45?

I see something like this which looks like it could work even thought RJ45 female instead of male would be what is needed.

https://www.ebay.com/c/4020437216?iid=202701490927

Does anyone have experience with a BNC connector and converting it to RJ45?

Any help appreciated..

Leon
Re: Etherprint plus EtherTalk to LocalTalk converter — help with connection type BNC [message #385601 is a reply to message #385599] Thu, 01 August 2019 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: James Davis

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 6:57:51 PM UTC-7, Leon Sargent wrote:
> Got the wrong NOS from an order on EBay looking to see if I can still use it while I wait to hear from the seller.
>
> The EtherPrint - T I ordered has an rj45 connector the Etherprint Plus that I got does not.
>
> Does anyone know if there is an adapter from BNC connector to RJ45?
>
> I see something like this which looks like it could work even thought RJ45 female instead of male would be what is needed.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/c/4020437216?iid=202701490927
>
> Does anyone have experience with a BNC connector and converting it to RJ45?
>
> Any help appreciated..
>
> Leon

frys.com
Re: Etherprint plus EtherTalk to LocalTalk converter — help with connection type BNC [message #385607 is a reply to message #385601] Fri, 02 August 2019 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

Hi James.

Where I seem to be stumbling.

I am seeing BNC to Ethernet adapters that transmit on pins 6 & 7 or pin one and ground to pin 2. Looking at Ethernet pin out appears to be 1 & 2 & 3 & 6 are transmit and receive.

I assume the transmit and receive pins have to match or we have no connections.

Leon
Re: Etherprint plus EtherTalk to LocalTalk converter — help with connection type BNC [message #385609 is a reply to message #385607] Fri, 02 August 2019 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 3:36:24 PM UTC+10, Leon Sargent wrote:
> Hi James.
>
> Where I seem to be stumbling.
>
> I am seeing BNC to Ethernet adapters that transmit on pins 6 & 7 or pin one and ground to pin 2. Looking at Ethernet pin out appears to be 1 & 2 & 3 & 6 are transmit and receive.
>
> I assume the transmit and receive pins have to match or we have no connections.
>
> Leon

Thats probably because your BNC anything is only going to be 10Mb equipment, the original 1 pair job. Fast or 100Mb uses two pairs, but most will cut back to 10Mb for older equipment.
Re: Etherprint plus EtherTalk to LocalTalk converter — help with connection type BNC [message #385613 is a reply to message #385599] Fri, 02 August 2019 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: R.Kiefer.SPAEM

Leon Sargent wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is an adapter from BNC connector to RJ45?

There are a lot.

Read the wikipedia ("ethernet") and the history part: 10Base2, 10BaseT
and other. Your Etherprint has a 10Base2 connection, you need a 10BaseT
connection. Best "converter" is a 10Mb/sec-Hub with both connections.
These were very common in former times, i.e.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/173871501300


> I see something like this which looks like it could work even thought RJ45
> female instead of male would be what is needed.

It's not just a physical conversion.


Regards
Ralf
Re: Etherprint plus EtherTalk to LocalTalk converter — help with connection type BNC [message #385616 is a reply to message #385613] Fri, 02 August 2019 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

Ralph.

I did lookup BNC and how it worked. I read about thick and thin Ethernet.

I spent hours trying to get a good grasp of this technology before I had a pile of adapter in my house that did not work.

I am sorry I did not mention trying to work this out on my own as it is not often one hears talk of this technology unless it pertains to analog or IP security camera, and AV forums.

I am sorry that when I started in technology in 1995 the companies I worked for did not use BNC but the new CAT 3 standard.

Between from going to frys,com to looking at BNC cables for AV and having it recommended to go do research on BNC I am no better off than not asking the question in the first place.

It is a large amount of frustration you are reading.

Leon
Re: Etherprint plus EtherTalk to LocalTalk converter — help with connection type BNC [message #385623 is a reply to message #385599] Fri, 02 August 2019 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <807e540c-591c-4d01-b6ae-4745dda58a92@googlegroups.com>,
Leon Sargent <sargenle@icloud.com> wrote:
> Got the wrong NOS from an order on EBay looking to see if I can still
> use it while I wait to hear from the seller.
>
> The EtherPrint - T I ordered has an rj45 connector the Etherprint Plus
> that I got does not.
>
> Does anyone know if there is an adapter from BNC connector to RJ45?
>
> I see something like this which looks like it could work even thought
> RJ45 female instead of male would be what is needed.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/c/4020437216?iid=202701490927

As already mentioned, it's not just a physical conversion as the signals are
completely different. You need a media converter...like this, but hopefully
less expensive:

https://www.blackbox.com/en-us/store/detail.aspx/Media-Conve rter-10BASET-Ethernet-to-10BASE2-ThinNet/LMC210A

This turns up some less-expensive (though still not cheap) options:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l 1313&_nkw=10base-2+10base-t+converter&_sacat=0

Check to see if your device has an AUI connector (DB-15 with a sliding clip)
on it. If it does, you can get a 10Base-T transceiver for it, and that will
be cheap:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l 1313&_nkw=+10base-t+transceiver&_sacat=0&LH_Titl eDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=10base-2+10base-t+converter

I have one of these on my GatorBox CS.

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Re: Etherprint plus EtherTalk to LocalTalk converter — help with connection type BNC [message #385626 is a reply to message #385623] Fri, 02 August 2019 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

> Check to see if your device has an AUI connector (DB-15 with a sliding clip)
> on it. If it does, you can get a 10Base-T transceiver for it, and that will
> be cheap:

This device has the AUI connection and it has the sliding strip with the little brass screws on either side of the sliding clip.

I would think the transceiver would lock into the port with the other end having the 10base-t connector. I will check the link for AUI transceivers.

Thank you for your efforts.

Leon
Re: Etherprint plus EtherTalk to LocalTalk converter — help with connection type BNC [message #385629 is a reply to message #385623] Fri, 02 August 2019 15:38 Go to previous message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

> Check to see if your device has an AUI connector (DB-15 with a sliding clip)
> on it. If it does, you can get a 10Base-T transceiver for it, and that will
> be cheap:

Based on this. Category 6 is backward compatible with the Category 5/5e and Category 3 cable standards.

I wonder if an airport base station 5th gen port will do cat 3 speeds.

Let’s see if I can find out about supported speeds on those LAN ports.

Leon
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