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Total Replay Title Screens [message #385560] Thu, 01 August 2019 05:04 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: Denis Molony

In the TITLE.HGR folder there are 21 image files that just show a black screen with the message 'press Tab to see screenshots'. Each one takes up 8 blocks.

The files are:

HEAVY.BARREL
TETRIS128K
DEATH.SWORD
BATMAN
SUMMER.EDITION
AIRHEART
WINTER.EDITION
SPIDERBOT
ROBOCOP
RENEGADE
BAD.DUDES
VICTORY.ROAD
PLATOON
QIX
PIPEDREAM
RADWARRIOR
D.GENERATION
BLOCKCHAIN
THEXDER128K
PRINCEUNP
RAMPAGE

Because they all have different filenames, it looks as though the originals may have been overwritten somehow.
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385561 is a reply to message #385560] Thu, 01 August 2019 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 11:04:11 AM UTC+2, Denis Molony wrote:
> In the TITLE.HGR folder there are 21 image files that just show a black screen with the message 'press Tab to see screenshots'. Each one takes up 8 blocks.
>
> The files are:
>
> HEAVY.BARREL
> TETRIS128K
> DEATH.SWORD
> BATMAN
> SUMMER.EDITION
> AIRHEART
> WINTER.EDITION
> SPIDERBOT
> ROBOCOP
> RENEGADE
> BAD.DUDES
> VICTORY.ROAD
> PLATOON
> QIX
> PIPEDREAM
> RADWARRIOR
> D.GENERATION
> BLOCKCHAIN
> THEXDER128K
> PRINCEUNP
> RAMPAGE
>
> Because they all have different filenames, it looks as though the originals may have been overwritten somehow.

By chance, are all the titles in DHGR?
Well, maybe not just by chance...

Marco
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385563 is a reply to message #385561] Thu, 01 August 2019 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Denis Molony

> By chance, are all the titles in DHGR?
> Well, maybe not just by chance...
>
> Marco

No.
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385566 is a reply to message #385563] Thu, 01 August 2019 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 2:46:26 PM UTC+2, Denis Molony wrote:
>> By chance, are all the titles in DHGR?
>> Well, maybe not just by chance...
>>
>> Marco
>
> No.

So why these titles are found in the TITLE.DHGR folder?
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385567 is a reply to message #385566] Thu, 01 August 2019 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Denis Molony

> So why these titles are found in the TITLE.DHGR folder?

They're not. They're in the TITLE.HGR folder.
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385568 is a reply to message #385567] Thu, 01 August 2019 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 3:22:37 PM UTC+2, Denis Molony wrote:
>> So why these titles are found in the TITLE.DHGR folder?
>
> They're not. They're in the TITLE.HGR folder.

OK I give up!

go to github and complain with 4am for its interface implementation.
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385578 is a reply to message #385560] Thu, 01 August 2019 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FWIW I have the same issue on my computer. I assumed it was because they needed a IIgs or something, but since they're all IIe/IIc titles, I can't imagine why that would be.
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385589 is a reply to message #385578] Thu, 01 August 2019 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Denis Molony

On Friday, 2 August 2019 06:00:23 UTC+10, Tempest wrote:
> FWIW I have the same issue on my computer. I assumed it was because they needed a IIgs or something, but since they're all IIe/IIc titles, I can't imagine why that would be.

My point was simply that there are 21 identical files on this disk, each taking up 9 blocks (not 8 as I originally said). This is 180 wasted blocks, when surely one copy of the screen would be sufficient.

But due to the weird names (they are not called TAB.SCREEN.1, TAB.SCREEN.2 for instance), it makes me think that they are the result of accidentally overwriting something important, like the actual screen from the program that they are named after.
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385590 is a reply to message #385589] Thu, 01 August 2019 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 7:30:33 AM UTC+10, Denis Molony wrote:
> My point was simply that there are 21 identical files on this disk, each taking up 9 blocks (not 8 as I originally said). This is 180 wasted blocks, when surely one copy of the screen would be sufficient.
>
> But due to the weird names (they are not called TAB.SCREEN.1, TAB.SCREEN.2 for instance), it makes me think that they are the result of accidentally overwriting something important, like the actual screen from the program that they are named after.

The block wastage is a future potential optimisation point.

The "press tab.." is a design choice.

I suggest following @a2_am on Twitter and reading this thread which may be enlightening.
https://twitter.com/a2_4am/status/1155922157471449088

Regards,
Andrew
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385591 is a reply to message #385590] Thu, 01 August 2019 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 8:22:28 AM UTC+10, andrew...@writeme.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 7:30:33 AM UTC+10, Denis Molony wrote:
>> My point was simply that there are 21 identical files on this disk, each taking up 9 blocks (not 8 as I originally said). This is 180 wasted blocks, when surely one copy of the screen would be sufficient.
>>
>> But due to the weird names (they are not called TAB.SCREEN.1, TAB.SCREEN.2 for instance), it makes me think that they are the result of accidentally overwriting something important, like the actual screen from the program that they are named after.
>
> The block wastage is a future potential optimisation point.
>
> The "press tab.." is a design choice.
>
> I suggest following @a2_am on Twitter and reading this thread which may be enlightening.
> https://twitter.com/a2_4am/status/1155922157471449088
>
> Regards,
> Andrew

Perhaps this is a better link to the starting point of the thread.
https://twitter.com/a2_4am/status/1155877519926726656
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385592 is a reply to message #385591] Thu, 01 August 2019 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 8:23:43 AM UTC+10, andrew...@writeme.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 8:22:28 AM UTC+10, andrew...@writeme.com wrote:
>> On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 7:30:33 AM UTC+10, Denis Molony wrote:
>>> My point was simply that there are 21 identical files on this disk, each taking up 9 blocks (not 8 as I originally said). This is 180 wasted blocks, when surely one copy of the screen would be sufficient.
>>>
>>> But due to the weird names (they are not called TAB.SCREEN.1, TAB.SCREEN.2 for instance), it makes me think that they are the result of accidentally overwriting something important, like the actual screen from the program that they are named after.
>>
>> The block wastage is a future potential optimisation point.
>>
>> The "press tab.." is a design choice.
>>
>> I suggest following @a2_am on Twitter and reading this thread which may be enlightening.
>> https://twitter.com/a2_4am/status/1155922157471449088
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrew
>
> Perhaps this is a better link to the starting point of the thread.
> https://twitter.com/a2_4am/status/1155877519926726656

Of particular relevance to this thread
"The live search only supports HGR, so if a game doesn't have an HGR title screen, we use a placeholder that says "press Tab to see screenshots" (which actually works for all games). Except the ][+ doesn't have a Tab key, so the next version will use Space instead."
Re: Total Replay Title Screens [message #385593 is a reply to message #385592] Thu, 01 August 2019 18:29 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: Denis Molony

> Of particular relevance to this thread
> "The live search only supports HGR, so if a game doesn't have an HGR title screen, we use a placeholder that says "press Tab to see screenshots" (which actually works for all games). Except the ][+ doesn't have a Tab key, so the next version will use Space instead."

Got it. Thanks.
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