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New manga:Yukibana no Tora by Higashimura Akiko. [message #385516] Mon, 29 July 2019 10:36 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbie Sellers

Yukibana no Tora Ongoing 0.0

Author: HIGASHIMURA Akiko

Genres: Drama Seinen Historical Gender Bender

The life of daimyo Uesugi Kenshin commanded authority and fear during
the Sengoku period of Japanese history. In this retelling, the powerful
lord is reimagined as a woman.

July 28, 2019
1) the author - have liked nearly all of her work. I haven't
seen all of it.

2) the subject. I have seen the NHK Taiga drama "Furin Kazan"
related to this character and many features of the story accord with
the manga author's somewhat understated premise. Kenshin acted during
life more like a lady than a man. Never married or took concubines so
no direct heirs. In the drama this is seen as Buddhist devotion but
Buddhism never demanded celibacy from the devout.

After the Tokugawa rose to power the people of Kenshin's holding
were moved to other lands away from the mountainous lands they knew
and took up specialized agricultural pursuits which were quite
rewarding. Kenshin died before that happened.

So far chapter 1, about 20 panels, is largely explanatory of the
female Uesugi Kenshin thesis. A few personal notes from the author
during this explanation. Of course this is online in translation
otherwise I could not tell you these things.

bliss

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Re: New manga:Yukibana no Tora by Higashimura Akiko. [message #385517 is a reply to message #385516] Mon, 29 July 2019 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Johnston is currently offline  David Johnston
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On 2019-07-29 8:36 a.m., Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>         Yukibana no Tora                Ongoing 0.0
>
> Author: HIGASHIMURA Akiko
>
> Genres: Drama Seinen Historical Gender Bender
>
> The life of daimyo Uesugi Kenshin commanded authority and fear during
> the Sengoku period of Japanese history. In this retelling, the powerful
> lord is reimagined as a woman.
>
>         July 28, 2019
>         1) the author - have liked nearly all of her work.  I haven't
> seen all of it.
>
>     2) the subject.  I have seen the NHK Taiga drama "Furin Kazan"
> related to this character and many features of the story accord with
> the manga author's somewhat understated premise. Kenshin acted during
> life more like a lady than a man.  Never married or took concubines so
> no direct heirs.  In the drama this is seen as Buddhist devotion but
> Buddhism never demanded celibacy from the devout.

Buddhism did have a monastic tradition.
Re: New manga:Yukibana no Tora by Higashimura Akiko. [message #385518 is a reply to message #385517] Mon, 29 July 2019 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bobbie Sellers

On 7/29/19 8:08 AM, David Johnston wrote:
> On 2019-07-29 8:36 a.m., Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>          Yukibana no Tora                Ongoing 0.0
>>
>> Author: HIGASHIMURA Akiko
>>
>> Genres: Drama Seinen Historical Gender Bender
>>
>> The life of daimyo Uesugi Kenshin commanded authority and fear during
>> the Sengoku period of Japanese history. In this retelling, the
>> powerful lord is reimagined as a woman.
>>
>>          July 28, 2019
>>          1) the author - have liked nearly all of her work.  I haven't
>> seen all of it.
>>
>>      2) the subject.  I have seen the NHK Taiga drama "Furin Kazan"
>> related to this character and many features of the story accord with
>> the manga author's somewhat understated premise. Kenshin acted during
>> life more like a lady than a man.  Never married or took concubines so
>> no direct heirs.  In the drama this is seen as Buddhist devotion but
>> Buddhism never demanded celibacy from the devout.
>
> Buddhism did have a monastic tradition.

Yes it did but while the child was raised and educated in
a Buddhist institution Buddhism did not impose Celibacy even on
the monks who generally were noted for pedophilic behavior but
were also given to drink and whoring. Kenshin drank a lot
apparently. The Kami of War Bishmontan(sic) depicted as
a woman may indicate a true devotion by a male or female.
Certainly K. was devoted to war though not extraordinarily
good at war and wasted a lot of resources on war.

The end of women as Daimyo was in the Tokugawa era
in the rules Ieyasu established for the governance of his
realm. I spent some time learning about Kenshin from
various online sources then looked up Yamaouchi Kazutoyo
(Tôtômi) who aided by his wife Chiyo ended up as the Lord
of Tosa. He distributed his lands among his loyal vassals
and children. The NHK taiga drama, Taiko tells the story
of the unification of Japan with Chiyo as the viewpoint
character, helping her husband, meeting with all the
major characters of those years of fighting.
Tosa was one of the provinces which helped foment
the Meji rebellion against the Tokugawa shogunate.

bliss

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Re: New manga:Yukibana no Tora by Higashimura Akiko. [message #385552 is a reply to message #385518] Wed, 31 July 2019 19:30 Go to previous message
David Johnston is currently offline  David Johnston
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On 2019-07-29 9:51 a.m., Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 7/29/19 8:08 AM, David Johnston wrote:
>> On 2019-07-29 8:36 a.m., Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>          Yukibana no Tora                Ongoing 0.0
>>>
>>> Author: HIGASHIMURA Akiko
>>>
>>> Genres: Drama Seinen Historical Gender Bender
>>>
>>> The life of daimyo Uesugi Kenshin commanded authority and fear during
>>> the Sengoku period of Japanese history. In this retelling, the
>>> powerful lord is reimagined as a woman.
>>>
>>>          July 28, 2019
>>>          1) the author - have liked nearly all of her work.  I
>>> haven't seen all of it.
>>>
>>>      2) the subject.  I have seen the NHK Taiga drama "Furin Kazan"
>>> related to this character and many features of the story accord with
>>> the manga author's somewhat understated premise. Kenshin acted during
>>> life more like a lady than a man.  Never married or took concubines
>>> so no direct heirs.  In the drama this is seen as Buddhist devotion
>>> but Buddhism never demanded celibacy from the devout.
>>
>> Buddhism did have a monastic tradition.
>
>     Yes it did but while the child was raised and educated in
> a Buddhist institution Buddhism did not impose Celibacy even on
> the monks who generally were noted for pedophilic behavior but
> were also given to drink and whoring.

The lecherous monk is a fictional standard in Japan, but it's funny
because it's transgressive. Monks were lecherous but they weren't
supposed to be.
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