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Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383861] Sun, 12 May 2019 16:23 Go to next message
KP is currently offline  KP
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I just came across the following "draft" manual for "Apple IIgs BASIC": https://apple2.gs/downloads/apda_gsbasic_manual_v1.0b4_ocr.p df

In over thirty years of fiddling around with Apple II computers, I have never heard of "Apple IIgs BASIC" before. Was that language (SDK? programming environment? other?) total vaporware?

Thank you,
KP
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383862 is a reply to message #383861] Sun, 12 May 2019 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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KP wrote:
> I just came across the following "draft" manual for "Apple IIgs BASIC":
> https://apple2.gs/downloads/apda_gsbasic_manual_v1.0b4_ocr.p df
>
> In over thirty years of fiddling around with Apple II computers, I have
> never heard of "Apple IIgs BASIC" before. Was that language (SDK?
> programming environment? other?) total vaporware?

No, it had limited distribution through APDA. See these contemporary Usenet
posts from 1988:

https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=7&id=3845&highlight =gsbasic
https://macgui.com/usenet/search.php?q=gsbasic

--
]DF$
The New Apple II User's Guide:
https://macgui.com/newa2guide/
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383867 is a reply to message #383862] Sun, 12 May 2019 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 4:35:50 PM UTC-4, D Finnigan wrote:
> KP wrote:
>> I just came across the following "draft" manual for "Apple IIgs BASIC":
>> https://apple2.gs/downloads/apda_gsbasic_manual_v1.0b4_ocr.p df
>>
>> In over thirty years of fiddling around with Apple II computers, I have
>> never heard of "Apple IIgs BASIC" before. Was that language (SDK?
>> programming environment? other?) total vaporware?
>
> No, it had limited distribution through APDA. See these contemporary Usenet
> posts from 1988:
>
> https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=7&id=3845&highlight =gsbasic
> https://macgui.com/usenet/search.php?q=gsbasic
>
> --
> ]DF$
> The New Apple II User's Guide:
> https://macgui.com/newa2guide/

David, thank you. Is it extant today as a disk image? I would love to try it out on either an emulator or a real IIgs.
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383868 is a reply to message #383867] Sun, 12 May 2019 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Antoine Vignau is currently offline  Antoine Vignau
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Hi KP,
More manuals than the one (I) scanned for which you provided a link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19Ki7Cbcw3idoQjl9bp3u 170ZjTJRFbir

I have the disk image and an updated version with some bug fixes and new features. I'll share them.

Antoine
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383870 is a reply to message #383868] Sun, 12 May 2019 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 6:16:26 PM UTC-4, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> Hi KP,
> More manuals than the one (I) scanned for which you provided a link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19Ki7Cbcw3idoQjl9bp3u 170ZjTJRFbir
>
> I have the disk image and an updated version with some bug fixes and new features. I'll share them.
>
> Antoine

Antoine, thank you very much. Please let me know when you have shared the disk image and the updated version.
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383872 is a reply to message #383870] Sun, 12 May 2019 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 5:25:34 PM UTC-6, KP wrote:
> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 6:16:26 PM UTC-4, Antoine Vignau wrote:
>> Hi KP,
>> More manuals than the one (I) scanned for which you provided a link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19Ki7Cbcw3idoQjl9bp3u 170ZjTJRFbir
>>
>> I have the disk image and an updated version with some bug fixes and new features. I'll share them.
>>
>> Antoine
>
> Antoine, thank you very much. Please let me know when you have shared the disk image and the updated version.


It has already been shared.

mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/images/gs/program ming/basic/GSoft_BASIC.ZIP
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383873 is a reply to message #383872] Sun, 12 May 2019 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 11:35:49 PM UTC-4, I am Rob wrote:
> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 5:25:34 PM UTC-6, KP wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 6:16:26 PM UTC-4, Antoine Vignau wrote:
>>> Hi KP,
>>> More manuals than the one (I) scanned for which you provided a link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19Ki7Cbcw3idoQjl9bp3u 170ZjTJRFbir
>>>
>>> I have the disk image and an updated version with some bug fixes and new features. I'll share them.
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>
>> Antoine, thank you very much. Please let me know when you have shared the disk image and the updated version.
>
>
> It has already been shared.
>
> mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/images/gs/program ming/basic/GSoft_BASIC.ZIP

I'm sorry, but I was looking for "Apple IIgs BASIC," not "GSoft BASIC." It appears that "GSoft BASIC" was developed by The Byte Works in the late 1990s. It appears that "Apple IIgs BASIC" was developed by Apple Computer in the late 1980s.
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383878 is a reply to message #383873] Mon, 13 May 2019 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Get it at http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/apda/
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Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383895 is a reply to message #383878] Mon, 13 May 2019 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 8:15:46 AM UTC-4, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> Get it at http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/apda/
> av

Thank you, Antoine! Much appreciated.
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383896 is a reply to message #383895] Mon, 13 May 2019 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It reminds me of Business Basic (on the Apple ///).

-uso.
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383898 is a reply to message #383873] Tue, 14 May 2019 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 9:46:57 PM UTC-6, KP wrote:
> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 11:35:49 PM UTC-4, I am Rob wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 5:25:34 PM UTC-6, KP wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 6:16:26 PM UTC-4, Antoine Vignau wrote:
>>>> Hi KP,
>>>> More manuals than the one (I) scanned for which you provided a link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19Ki7Cbcw3idoQjl9bp3u 170ZjTJRFbir
>>>>
>>>> I have the disk image and an updated version with some bug fixes and new features. I'll share them.
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>
>>> Antoine, thank you very much. Please let me know when you have shared the disk image and the updated version.
>>
>>
>> It has already been shared.
>>
>> mirrors.apple2.org.za/ftp.apple.asimov.net/images/gs/program ming/basic/GSoft_BASIC.ZIP
>
> I'm sorry, but I was looking for "Apple IIgs BASIC," not "GSoft BASIC." It appears that "GSoft BASIC" was developed by The Byte Works in the late 1990s. It appears that "Apple IIgs BASIC" was developed by Apple Computer in the late 1980s.


My mistake. I thought GSoft was an acronym for GS Applesoft.
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #383903 is a reply to message #383898] Tue, 14 May 2019 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve is right. IIgs Basic is very close to the Apple III basic with toolbox extensions.

What is not fun is that it is a 8-bit basic inside a 16-bit app. The code is very ugly to read.

I'll share my updates once I am done adding two commands. And if they run, that means the disassembled code is OK. No ETA. Not so useful apart from validating the disassembly.

Antoine
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #385879 is a reply to message #383903] Fri, 09 August 2019 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Denis Molony

On Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:14:03 UTC+10, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> Steve is right. IIgs Basic is very close to the Apple III basic with toolbox extensions.
>
> What is not fun is that it is a 8-bit basic inside a 16-bit app. The code is very ugly to read.
>
> I'll share my updates once I am done adding two commands. And if they run, that means the disassembled code is OK. No ETA. Not so useful apart from validating the disassembly.
>
> Antoine

Antoine, do you have any technical documentation for IIgs Basic? In particular the token list?
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #385884 is a reply to message #385879] Fri, 09 August 2019 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Denis Molony

On Saturday, 10 August 2019 06:03:10 UTC+10, Denis Molony wrote:
> On Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:14:03 UTC+10, Antoine Vignau wrote:
>> Steve is right. IIgs Basic is very close to the Apple III basic with toolbox extensions.
>>
>> What is not fun is that it is a 8-bit basic inside a 16-bit app. The code is very ugly to read.
>>
>> I'll share my updates once I am done adding two commands. And if they run, that means the disassembled code is OK. No ETA. Not so useful apart from validating the disassembly.
>>
>> Antoine
>
> Antoine, do you have any technical documentation for IIgs Basic? In particular the token list?

I found this - http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/decgsbasic.pdf
Re: Was Apple IIgs BASIC vaporware? [message #385953 is a reply to message #385884] Mon, 12 August 2019 04:29 Go to previous message
Antoine Vignau is currently offline  Antoine Vignau
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Nothing more yet than what I linked above,
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