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Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381420] Sun, 24 February 2019 11:34 Go to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

For new and interesting ways to use retro technology with modern technology I thought. What about Markdown language inside a ][gs Word processor.

It seems possible.

If I use Word Perfect and created Macros for the Mark Down I would need, could I transfer this from GS/OS, get it marked up and either printed, turned into a PDF or converted to RTF.

Could I do this without the use of my Mac. I am emulating a ][gs on a Raspberry PI.

I thought this would be an interesting way to spend a windy cold day in Massachusetts.

Let's see where this takes me.

Leon
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381441 is a reply to message #381420] Mon, 25 February 2019 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Schmidt is currently offline  David Schmidt
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On 2/24/19 11:34 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:
> For new and interesting ways to use retro technology with modern technology I thought. What about Markdown language inside a ][gs Word processor.
>
> It seems possible.
>
> If I use Word Perfect and created Macros for the Mark Down I would need, could I transfer this from GS/OS, get it marked up and either printed, turned into a PDF or converted to RTF.
>
> Could I do this without the use of my Mac. I am emulating a ][gs on a Raspberry PI.

I do a lot of word processor transcoding for fun and profit:
https://github.com/RetroFloppy/transformenator

But I'm not sure I'm clear on the direction you're heading with this.
Do you want to have WordPerfect emit .MD output based on files that
originated in WordPerfect format - all on the GS? Or, do you want to
transcode WordPerfect native format into .MD using the Pi?
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381442 is a reply to message #381441] Mon, 25 February 2019 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 11:02:20 AM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
> On 2/24/19 11:34 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:
>> For new and interesting ways to use retro technology with modern technology I thought. What about Markdown language inside a ][gs Word processor.
>>
>> It seems possible.
>>
>> If I use Word Perfect and created Macros for the Mark Down I would need, could I transfer this from GS/OS, get it marked up and either printed, turned into a PDF or converted to RTF.
>>
>> Could I do this without the use of my Mac. I am emulating a ][gs on a Raspberry PI.
>
> I do a lot of word processor transcoding for fun and profit:
> https://github.com/RetroFloppy/transformenator
>
> But I'm not sure I'm clear on the direction you're heading with this.
> Do you want to have WordPerfect emit .MD output based on files that
> originated in WordPerfect format - all on the GS? Or, do you want to
> transcode WordPerfect native format into .MD using the Pi?

I am looking to see if this is possible.

> Do you want to have WordPerfect emit .MD output based on files that
> originated in WordPerfect format - all on the GS?

I would think I could put in the markdown, save as ascii or possibly .WP to the PI then convert to both RTF and PDF using the PI. PDF for use on the PI and RTF for use in GS applications.

I am going to check out the software link you provided.. it looks rather promising for what I want to do.

Never know until I give it a try...

Thank you.

Leon
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381444 is a reply to message #381442] Mon, 25 February 2019 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2/25/19 11:42 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:
> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 11:02:20 AM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>> On 2/24/19 11:34 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:
>>> For new and interesting ways to use retro technology with modern technology I thought. What about Markdown language inside a ][gs Word processor.
>>>
>>> It seems possible.
>>>
>>> If I use Word Perfect and created Macros for the Mark Down I would need, could I transfer this from GS/OS, get it marked up and either printed, turned into a PDF or converted to RTF.
>>>
>>> Could I do this without the use of my Mac. I am emulating a ][gs on a Raspberry PI.
>>
>> I do a lot of word processor transcoding for fun and profit:
>> https://github.com/RetroFloppy/transformenator
>>
>> But I'm not sure I'm clear on the direction you're heading with this.
>> Do you want to have WordPerfect emit .MD output based on files that
>> originated in WordPerfect format - all on the GS? Or, do you want to
>> transcode WordPerfect native format into .MD using the Pi?
>
> I am looking to see if this is possible.
>
>> Do you want to have WordPerfect emit .MD output based on files that
>> originated in WordPerfect format - all on the GS?
>
> I would think I could put in the markdown, save as ascii or possibly .WP to the PI then convert to both RTF and PDF using the PI. PDF for use on the PI and RTF for use in GS applications.
>
> I am going to check out the software link you provided.. it looks rather promising for what I want to do.
>
> Never know until I give it a try...

For sure. I can help write a transform if I understand the requirements
- and if it makes sense for you to do the processing not-on-the-GS.
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381445 is a reply to message #381442] Mon, 25 February 2019 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 10:42:18 AM UTC-6, Leon Sargent wrote:
> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 11:02:20 AM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>> On 2/24/19 11:34 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:
>>> For new and interesting ways to use retro technology with modern technology I thought. What about Markdown language inside a ][gs Word processor.
>>>
>>> It seems possible.
>>>
>>> If I use Word Perfect and created Macros for the Mark Down I would need, could I transfer this from GS/OS, get it marked up and either printed, turned into a PDF or converted to RTF.
>>>
>>> Could I do this without the use of my Mac. I am emulating a ][gs on a Raspberry PI.
>>
>> I do a lot of word processor transcoding for fun and profit:
>> https://github.com/RetroFloppy/transformenator
>>
>> But I'm not sure I'm clear on the direction you're heading with this.
>> Do you want to have WordPerfect emit .MD output based on files that
>> originated in WordPerfect format - all on the GS? Or, do you want to
>> transcode WordPerfect native format into .MD using the Pi?
>
> I am looking to see if this is possible.
>
>> Do you want to have WordPerfect emit .MD output based on files that
>> originated in WordPerfect format - all on the GS?
>
> I would think I could put in the markdown, save as ascii or possibly .WP to the PI then convert to both RTF and PDF using the PI. PDF for use on the PI and RTF for use in GS applications.
>
> I am going to check out the software link you provided.. it looks rather promising for what I want to do.
>
> Never know until I give it a try...
>
> Thank you.
>
> Leon


I already can view and create .RTF files on my Apple II.

Here is how to do it.


Create a blank .RTF document on your PC or Mac. Type "Start Here". Click on "Select All", then select the font and size you wish to be default. Save document.

Transfer document to your Apple II.
Open favorite word processor.
Look for "Select All" and replace the text with your own.
There is only one rule to follow. Enter a space for before each <RETURN> mark to be used as a place holder.

Write short applesoft or ML program to change every <SPACE><RETURN> characters to $5C and $0A, in that order.

Save as text document. Once transferred back to PC/Mac, add the suffix .rtf, and wallah, your text is displayed in the font and size you selected.
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381449 is a reply to message #381444] Mon, 25 February 2019 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 1:00:45 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
> On 2/25/19 11:42 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 11:02:20 AM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>>> On 2/24/19 11:34 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:

>>> I do a lot of word processor transcoding for fun and profit:
>>> https://github.com/RetroFloppy/transformenator


Looking at Transformenator.

java -jar transformenator.jar

Is there a version of Java required and is JRE what is needed?

Leon
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381452 is a reply to message #381449] Mon, 25 February 2019 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2/25/19 1:52 PM, Leon Sargent wrote:
> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 1:00:45 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>> On 2/25/19 11:42 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:
>>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 11:02:20 AM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>>>> On 2/24/19 11:34 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:
>
>>>> I do a lot of word processor transcoding for fun and profit:
>>>> https://github.com/RetroFloppy/transformenator
>
>
> Looking at Transformenator.
>
> java -jar transformenator.jar
>
> Is there a version of Java required and is JRE what is needed?

I use whatever is "latest" without going overboard, which today is Java
1.8 (Marketing name: "8").
https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre 8-downloads-2133155.html

There are no language features I'm using past the year 2004 or so that
are really necessary. So if there is a limit imposed (which I imagine
is probably 1.6) it's unintentional, and could be re-built around if
necessary. It's just a pain, so out of sheer laziness I just build with
whatever version is on my machine at the time (which is up to date on
security fixes on any given build day).
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381454 is a reply to message #381452] Mon, 25 February 2019 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 1:58:34 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
> On 2/25/19 1:52 PM, Leon Sargent wrote:
>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 1:00:45 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>>> On 2/25/19 11:42 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:
>>>> On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 11:02:20 AM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>>>> > On 2/24/19 11:34 AM, Leon Sargent wrote:


>
> I use whatever is "latest" without going overboard, which today is Java
> 1.8 (Marketing name: "8").
> https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre 8-downloads-2133155.html
>
> There are no language features I'm using past the year 2004 or so that
> are really necessary. So if there is a limit imposed (which I imagine
> is probably 1.6) it's unintentional, and could be re-built around if
> necessary. It's just a pain, so out of sheer laziness I just build with
> whatever version is on my machine at the time (which is up to date on
> security fixes on any given build day).

On the Pi. The Java package openjdk-7-jre for armhf is available. I have installed it.... Let see if that will work...

Now. I am not sure how to download Transformenator.

Can. you lead me in the right direction?

Leon
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381455 is a reply to message #381454] Mon, 25 February 2019 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Schmidt is currently offline  David Schmidt
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On 2/25/19 4:00 PM, Leon Sargent wrote:
> On the Pi. The Java package openjdk-7-jre for armhf is available. I have installed it.... Let see if that will work...
>
> Now. I am not sure how to download Transformenator.
>
> Can. you lead me in the right direction?

Sure. It's probably better to move this conversation over to github
since it's no longer Apple II related. In a nutshell though, you'd go
to the page, hit the "Releases" link, and then scroll down to the
"Assets" section below the latest release to download stuff. The
transformenator_v2.0.zip file has the jar and convenience scripts to
invoke it. They're convenient for me (and maybe only for me) - you
might want to write your own based on your usage.
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381456 is a reply to message #381455] Mon, 25 February 2019 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:06:40 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
> On 2/25/19 4:00 PM, Leon Sargent wrote:

>
> Sure. It's probably better to move this conversation over to github
> since it's no longer Apple II related. In a nutshell though, you'd go
> to the page, hit the "Releases" link, and then scroll down to the
> "Assets" section below the latest release to download stuff. The
> transformenator_v2.0.zip file has the jar and convenience scripts to
> invoke it. They're convenient for me (and maybe only for me) - you
> might want to write your own based on your usage.

Thank you for your help.

I am still learning. I have a few more questions but I am not that familiar with how to have a conversation on GitHub. I have an account as I use GSplus.

Do I put in an Issue to ask my question.

I will carry any further question to the Github once I understand how.

What a day of learning.....

Leon
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381457 is a reply to message #381456] Mon, 25 February 2019 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2/25/19 4:22 PM, Leon Sargent wrote:
> I am still learning. I have a few more questions but I am not that familiar with how to have a conversation on GitHub. I have an account as I use GSplus.
>
> Do I put in an Issue to ask my question.

Yes, just click on the "Issues" tab and hit the "New issue" button.

> I will carry any further question to the Github once I understand how.
>
> What a day of learning.....

The best kind!
Re: Hmm. Wordperfect and using Markdown. [message #381458 is a reply to message #381457] Mon, 25 February 2019 17:14 Go to previous message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Leon Sargent

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 4:40:43 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
> On 2/25/19 4:22 PM, Leon Sargent wrote:

>
>> I will carry any further question to the Github once I understand how.
>>
>> What a day of learning.....
>
> The best kind!

Conversation now on your Github page. See you there.

Leon
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