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Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380281] Tue, 29 January 2019 01:10 Go to next message
David Schmidt is currently offline  David Schmidt
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If you've got a Focus IDE card, now you can use it in your Apple ///. The first beta release will read and write up to 8 partitions. You still need to do partitioning on a GS (and of course you'll want to keep your partitions at 16MB or lower for the ///). See:
https://github.com/david-schmidt/FocusDrive3/releases
Re: Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380286 is a reply to message #380281] Tue, 29 January 2019 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse

Chuckle, have to partition on a GS... not on a IIe? Otherwise it sounds like good work!

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Re: Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380299 is a reply to message #380286] Tue, 29 January 2019 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Schmidt is currently offline  David Schmidt
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On 1/29/19 3:24 AM, Anthony Adverse wrote:
> Chuckle, have to partition on a GS... not on a IIe? Otherwise it sounds like good work!

Yeah, the partitioning software needs an overhaul. :-) Minimum Viable
Product at this point... the good news is, it works.
Re: Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380300 is a reply to message #380299] Tue, 29 January 2019 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Antoine Vignau is currently offline  Antoine Vignau
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David,
why is partinioning only available on the IIgs? Is that a software matter?
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Re: Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380301 is a reply to message #380300] Tue, 29 January 2019 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Schmidt is currently offline  David Schmidt
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On 1/29/19 9:42 AM, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> David,
> why is partinioning only available on the IIgs? Is that a software matter?

Yes, the Focus expects its own structure for the partition table - so
some software will need to be built from whole cloth to do that work on
any other platform. The only one that exists to my knowledge is a
little graphical app on the GS. There's no partitioning code in the
firmware.
Re: Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380307 is a reply to message #380301] Tue, 29 January 2019 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gids.rs is currently offline  gids.rs
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On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 8:49:36 AM UTC-6, schmidtd wrote:
> On 1/29/19 9:42 AM, Antoine Vignau wrote:
>> David,
>> why is partinioning only available on the IIgs? Is that a software matter?
>
> Yes, the Focus expects its own structure for the partition table - so
> some software will need to be built from whole cloth to do that work on
> any other platform. The only one that exists to my knowledge is a
> little graphical app on the GS. There's no partitioning code in the
> firmware.


I had 2 focus drives back in the day and I don't remember that graphical app, but I must of used it since I had a 287 Mb with 9 partitions and a 340 Mb with 12 partitions. I have also seen a website removing the little drives that were attached to the card and connecting the card to a 1 Gb IDE drive.

Dos SOS have the same restrictions for number of volumes mounted as Prodos (14)?
Re: Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380308 is a reply to message #380307] Tue, 29 January 2019 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Schmidt is currently offline  David Schmidt
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On 1/29/19 1:24 PM, I am Rob wrote:
> Dos SOS have the same restrictions for number of volumes mounted as Prodos (14)?

I've only ever seen a max of 8 DIBs per device driver; if you had 4
cards and filled them all with 8 volumes each, you'd get 64 online at
once. I don't know that there's any limit besides that. I have enough
CFFA3000 cards to test the theory... might make a fun experiment one day.
Re: Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380309 is a reply to message #380307] Tue, 29 January 2019 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
D Finnigan is currently offline  D Finnigan
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I am Rob wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 8:49:36 AM UTC-6, schmidtd wrote:
>> On 1/29/19 9:42 AM, Antoine Vignau wrote:
>>> David,
>>> why is partinioning only available on the IIgs? Is that a software
>>> matter?
>>
>> Yes, the Focus expects its own structure for the partition table - so
>> some software will need to be built from whole cloth to do that work on
>> any other platform. The only one that exists to my knowledge is a
>> little graphical app on the GS. There's no partitioning code in the
>> firmware.
>
>
> I had 2 focus drives back in the day and I don't remember that graphical
> app, but I must of used it since I had a 287 Mb with 9 partitions and a
> 340
> Mb with 12 partitions.

Alltech would sell them pre-formatted for IIe users.
https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1&id=123873


> I have also seen a website removing the little
> drives that were attached to the card and connecting the card to a 1 Gb
> IDE
> drive.

I have mine connected to a 128MB CompactFlash card with IDE-CF adapter. Both
card and adapter were very inexpensive.
https://macgui.com/gallery/showphoto.php?pic_id=1410

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Re: Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380453 is a reply to message #380309] Fri, 01 February 2019 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I bought my focus card in 01 it was preformatted with 6.0.1
Re: Beta Apple /// driver for the Focus IDE card available [message #380460 is a reply to message #380453] Fri, 01 February 2019 10:24 Go to previous message
David Schmidt is currently offline  David Schmidt
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On 2/1/19 7:47 AM, barana wrote:
> When I bought my focus card in 01 it was preformatted with 6.0.1

And it probably had a partition size of (one or more at) 32MB. Packages
such as Business BASIC and the System Utilities will get confused when
partitions get above 16MB (they used signed integers for number of
blocks; 1 block = 512b). So it is always best to feed a /// partition
sizes of 32767 blocks or fewer.
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