| composite video question.... [message #378213] |
Fri, 14 December 2018 18:22  |
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse
I don't recall there being any "modes" in composite video, it just throws everything at the screen all the time?
Anyway the local recycle had a screen from a Teac car DVD player going... better it had composite video and stereo on it. Bought it home powered it up, so far so good... turned on CloneE and presto 40cols in all its glory.. 80 cols followed which is a little hard to read, its a small screen.
By this time I'm thinking I'm on a winner and go for gold by firing up Karateka..... and nada. I end up with something that looks like a noughts and crosses grid, with some white squares under it. Its not just karateka either, I tried some other games too, it appears to be the video somehow..
Anyone got any ideas?
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| Re: composite video question.... [message #378232 is a reply to message #378213] |
Sat, 15 December 2018 03:58  |
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse
Update Update Update...
Its not an inherent problem in the display. I dragged out the old vcr/dvd combo job and hitched it up... glorious picture, in colour too. So it appears to be some kind of problem in the composite out on the CloneE Mobo... But that same composite out will drive an old monochromatic monitot quite happily.
At a loss, still looking for clues....
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| Re: composite video question.... [message #378518 is a reply to message #378232] |
Tue, 18 December 2018 08:27 |
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Originally posted by: cb meeks
On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 3:58:34 AM UTC-5, Anthony Adverse wrote:
> Update Update Update...
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> Its not an inherent problem in the display. I dragged out the old vcr/dvd combo job and hitched it up... glorious picture, in colour too. So it appears to be some kind of problem in the composite out on the CloneE Mobo... But that same composite out will drive an old monochromatic monitot quite happily.
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> At a loss, still looking for clues....
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So, sorry to ask a dumb question, but what is the CloneE? I assume an Apple II clone.
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| Re: composite video question.... [message #378566 is a reply to message #378518] |
Tue, 18 December 2018 21:00 |
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse
> So, sorry to ask a dumb question, but what is the CloneE? I assume an Apple II clone.
That's ok, as they say, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask. Yes, CloneE is a clone IIe, has one of the "orange" key keyboards. No strange ROMs appears to be mostly enhanced although I recieved it with a 6502 in it, not a C02. As above it has the Aux slot in what I think is an odd position, by the power supply. Making me think its NTSC. I know its origin in Aus, but no real idea where it came from.
If you're interested there are photos at,
http://pineapple.zapto.org/album/index.php?album=Clone-E& ;p=1
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| Re: composite video question.... [message #378585 is a reply to message #378566] |
Wed, 19 December 2018 08:23 |
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Originally posted by: cb meeks
On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 9:00:20 PM UTC-5, Anthony Adverse wrote:
>> So, sorry to ask a dumb question, but what is the CloneE? I assume an Apple II clone.
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> That's ok, as they say, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask. Yes, CloneE is a clone IIe, has one of the "orange" key keyboards. No strange ROMs appears to be mostly enhanced although I recieved it with a 6502 in it, not a C02. As above it has the Aux slot in what I think is an odd position, by the power supply. Making me think its NTSC. I know its origin in Aus, but no real idea where it came from.
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> If you're interested there are photos at,
> http://pineapple.zapto.org/album/index.php?album=Clone-E& ;p=1
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Ah, that's interesting. I didn't know they made IIe clones. I would have thought the clones would have stuck to the II+ because there are no custom chips in there.
Is that the original II+ case with it or did you add that?
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| Re: composite video question.... [message #378602 is a reply to message #378566] |
Wed, 19 December 2018 13:49 |
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Originally posted by: James Davis
On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 6:00:20 PM UTC-8, Anthony Adverse wrote:
>> So, sorry to ask a dumb question, but what is the CloneE? I assume an Apple II clone.
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> That's ok, as they say, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask. Yes, CloneE is a clone IIe, has one of the "orange" key keyboards. No strange ROMs appears to be mostly enhanced although I recieved it with a 6502 in it, not a C02. As above it has the Aux slot in what I think is an odd position, by the power supply. Making me think its NTSC. I know its origin in Aus, but no real idea where it came from.
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> If you're interested there are photos at,
> http://pineapple.zapto.org/album/index.php?album=Clone-E& ;p=1
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Are you color-blind? The keys don't look orange in your pictures. They look pretty normal to me.
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| Re: composite video question.... [message #378651 is a reply to message #378585] |
Wed, 19 December 2018 23:20 |
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 12:23:49 AM UTC+11, cb meeks wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 9:00:20 PM UTC-5, Anthony Adverse wrote:
>>> So, sorry to ask a dumb question, but what is the CloneE? I assume an Apple II clone.
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>> That's ok, as they say, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask.. Yes, CloneE is a clone IIe, has one of the "orange" key keyboards. No strange ROMs appears to be mostly enhanced although I recieved it with a 6502 in it, not a C02. As above it has the Aux slot in what I think is an odd position, by the power supply. Making me think its NTSC. I know its origin in Aus, but no real idea where it came from.
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>> If you're interested there are photos at,
>> http://pineapple.zapto.org/album/index.php?album=Clone-E& ;p=1
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> Ah, that's interesting. I didn't know they made IIe clones. I would have thought the clones would have stuck to the II+ because there are no custom chips in there.
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> Is that the original II+ case with it or did you add that?
Its the original case for the clone. I think I've seen one or two others in the past, but nothing like the numbers for II+
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| Re: composite video question.... [message #378652 is a reply to message #378602] |
Wed, 19 December 2018 23:21 |
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 5:49:40 AM UTC+11, James Davis wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 6:00:20 PM UTC-8, Anthony Adverse wrote:
>>> So, sorry to ask a dumb question, but what is the CloneE? I assume an Apple II clone.
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>> That's ok, as they say, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask.. Yes, CloneE is a clone IIe, has one of the "orange" key keyboards. No strange ROMs appears to be mostly enhanced although I recieved it with a 6502 in it, not a C02. As above it has the Aux slot in what I think is an odd position, by the power supply. Making me think its NTSC. I know its origin in Aus, but no real idea where it came from.
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>> If you're interested there are photos at,
>> http://pineapple.zapto.org/album/index.php?album=Clone-E& ;p=1
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> Are you color-blind? The keys don't look orange in your pictures. They look pretty normal to me.
I'm glad you can see that.:P
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| Re: composite video question.... [message #379440 is a reply to message #378585] |
Sat, 05 January 2019 13:53 |
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 12:23:49 AM UTC+11, cb meeks wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 9:00:20 PM UTC-5, Anthony Adverse wrote:
>>> So, sorry to ask a dumb question, but what is the CloneE? I assume an Apple II clone.
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>> That's ok, as they say, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask.. Yes, CloneE is a clone IIe, has one of the "orange" key keyboards. No strange ROMs appears to be mostly enhanced although I recieved it with a 6502 in it, not a C02. As above it has the Aux slot in what I think is an odd position, by the power supply. Making me think its NTSC. I know its origin in Aus, but no real idea where it came from.
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>> If you're interested there are photos at,
>> http://pineapple.zapto.org/album/index.php?album=Clone-E& ;p=1
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> Ah, that's interesting. I didn't know they made IIe clones. I would have thought the clones would have stuck to the II+ because there are no custom chips in there.
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> Is that the original II+ case with it or did you add that?
As you see it, is how I acquired it. All I did was wash it.
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| Re: composite video question.... [message #379468 is a reply to message #378213] |
Sun, 06 January 2019 22:22 |
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Originally posted by: Anthony Adverse
On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 10:22:22 AM UTC+11, Anthony Adverse wrote:
> I don't recall there being any "modes" in composite video, it just throws everything at the screen all the time?
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> Anyway the local recycle had a screen from a Teac car DVD player going.... better it had composite video and stereo on it. Bought it home powered it up, so far so good... turned on CloneE and presto 40cols in all its glory... 80 cols followed which is a little hard to read, its a small screen.
>
> By this time I'm thinking I'm on a winner and go for gold by firing up Karateka..... and nada. I end up with something that looks like a noughts and crosses grid, with some white squares under it. Its not just karateka either, I tried some other games too, it appears to be the video somehow..
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> Anyone got any ideas?
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> A
Well the aforesaid NTSC/PAL converter arrived today. Hooked it up, oddly enough it was pointing the wrong way, pumping out NTSC and the picture popped up in glorious color with nary a problem. Without having any real idea whats going on, I suspect the monitors native mode is NTSC, and pal as an add on. The display actually looks better in NTSC than it does PAL. Also interesting is either output NTSC or PAL from the converter display and the display will confirm the signal type. Something that didn't happen with CloneE on his own.
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