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SidPlay for DOS? [message #371641] Sat, 04 August 2018 12:43 Go to next message
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Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play SIDs on a Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.
Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #371664 is a reply to message #371641] Sat, 04 August 2018 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:
>
> Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play
> SIDs on a Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.

According to https://csdb.dk/release/?id=136774 there is. Last update was
from 2015.
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Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #371673 is a reply to message #371664] Sat, 04 August 2018 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Downloaded it. Thanks! :) I'll try it now.
Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #371688 is a reply to message #371664] Sat, 04 August 2018 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:
>>
>> Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play
>> SIDs on a Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.
>
> According to https://csdb.dk/release/?id=136774 there is. Last update was
> from 2015.

The last update to that page anyway, the actual software is from 1996
and the accuracy of the emulation is noticeably worse than most later
SID players. However it does consume far, far, fewer system resources
which means it even works on my old 486. Fun interface as well.

This is the original SIDplay homepage, which also lists Open Cubic
Player and VACSiD as other options for DOS:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822111611/http://www.geociti es.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5147/sidplay/download.html

OpenCP:
http://www.cubic.org/player/

VACSiD:
https://sites.google.com/site/amautsch/sanction
- I haven't tried this one. The download link was corrupted, so I
got it from here instead:
http://sta.c64.org/dosprg.html

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Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #371719 is a reply to message #371688] Sun, 05 August 2018 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks! :)
Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #371725 is a reply to message #371688] Sun, 05 August 2018 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Thierry64

On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 00:05:49 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid
(Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:

I can confirm Sidplayer v1.44 works in DOS , im use it all the time ,
v1.23 and v1.44 works in mi PC 386DX40mhz , 8mb RAM, DOS 6.22 and
Sound Blaster Pro 2.0

VacSID require more power ( Cubic Player Style , Like it this player!!
) , PC 486 66mhz ( i think 50mhz works ) , im use it but in emulated
pc 486DX2-66MHZ 16mb RAM , Sound Blaster PRO 2.0 in PC-EMU , exelent
and real emulator. ( play it Sidplayer in PC-Emu Too )

CSDB All Version VACSid

https://csdb.dk/search/?seinsel=all&search=vacsid&Go .x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

CSDB All Version SIDplayer DOS ( Michael Schwendt )

https://csdb.dk/scener/?id=4268

Last Version v1.44 DOS

best regards

From Argentina

Thierry


> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play
>>> SIDs on a Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.
>>
>> According to https://csdb.dk/release/?id=136774 there is. Last update was
>> from 2015.
>
> The last update to that page anyway, the actual software is from 1996
> and the accuracy of the emulation is noticeably worse than most later
> SID players. However it does consume far, far, fewer system resources
> which means it even works on my old 486. Fun interface as well.
>
> This is the original SIDplay homepage, which also lists Open Cubic
> Player and VACSiD as other options for DOS:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20060822111611/http://www.geociti es.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5147/sidplay/download.html
>
> OpenCP:
> http://www.cubic.org/player/
>
> VACSiD:
> https://sites.google.com/site/amautsch/sanction
> - I haven't tried this one. The download link was corrupted, so I
> got it from here instead:
> http://sta.c64.org/dosprg.html
Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #371726 is a reply to message #371725] Sun, 05 August 2018 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Thierry64

On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 14:28:37 -0300, Thierry64
<thierrykurt2000@hotmail.com> wrote:

PS : Off the record

Im use Sidplayer 1.23 in my real PC 386 to hear my all time classic
sound track , Tetris - Mirrorsoft -.

http://hvsc.csdb.dk/MUSICIANS/B/Beben_Wally/Tetris.sid

I do not know, but in that player the beginning is heard better than
in all new players whether they are for c64 or pc.



> On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 00:05:49 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid
> (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:
>
> I can confirm Sidplayer v1.44 works in DOS , im use it all the time ,
> v1.23 and v1.44 works in mi PC 386DX40mhz , 8mb RAM, DOS 6.22 and
> Sound Blaster Pro 2.0
>
> VacSID require more power ( Cubic Player Style , Like it this player!!
> ) , PC 486 66mhz ( i think 50mhz works ) , im use it but in emulated
> pc 486DX2-66MHZ 16mb RAM , Sound Blaster PRO 2.0 in PC-EMU , exelent
> and real emulator. ( play it Sidplayer in PC-Emu Too )
>
> CSDB All Version VACSid
>
> https://csdb.dk/search/?seinsel=all&search=vacsid&Go .x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go
>
> CSDB All Version SIDplayer DOS ( Michael Schwendt )
>
> https://csdb.dk/scener/?id=4268
>
> Last Version v1.44 DOS
>
> best regards
>
> From Argentina
>
> Thierry
>
>
>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play
>>>> SIDs on a Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.
>>>
>>> According to https://csdb.dk/release/?id=136774 there is. Last update was
>>> from 2015.
>>
>> The last update to that page anyway, the actual software is from 1996
>> and the accuracy of the emulation is noticeably worse than most later
>> SID players. However it does consume far, far, fewer system resources
>> which means it even works on my old 486. Fun interface as well.
>>
>> This is the original SIDplay homepage, which also lists Open Cubic
>> Player and VACSiD as other options for DOS:
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060822111611/http://www.geociti es.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5147/sidplay/download.html
>>
>> OpenCP:
>> http://www.cubic.org/player/
>>
>> VACSiD:
>> https://sites.google.com/site/amautsch/sanction
>> - I haven't tried this one. The download link was corrupted, so I
>> got it from here instead:
>> http://sta.c64.org/dosprg.html
Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #371735 is a reply to message #371673] Sun, 05 August 2018 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 14:21:00 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:
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> Downloaded it. Thanks! :) I'll try it now.

Does it work?

I seem to remember to have used this one for my SID collection in plain
DOS mode, before switching to Linux in 1998.

Now I use the SID player part from the Commodore VICE emulator called . It has
many options, like emulate the 6581 or 8580.

Vsid: PSID free pages: $0400-$9fff
Vsid: Driver=$0400, Image=$F000-$FDFF, Init=$F0B9, Play=$F0BF
Vsid: Title: Lightforce
Vsid: Author: Rob Hubbard
Vsid: Released: 1986 Gargoyle Games
Vsid: Using PAL sync
Vsid: SID model: UNKNOWN

Ah, blast from the past. Was blown away by what Rob did in the 80s.

Btw. the Video-LAN player AKA VLC also plays SID files.
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Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #371747 is a reply to message #371735] Sun, 05 August 2018 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-4, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 14:21:00 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:
>>
>> Downloaded it. Thanks! :) I'll try it now.
>
> Does it work?
>
I couldn't try it out: the computer was using a configuration that's low on Conventional RAM. :( I probably won't be able to try it until the next time I see my mother.
Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #371748 is a reply to message #371747] Sun, 05 August 2018 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 5:19:39 PM UTC-4, Harry Potter wrote:
> I couldn't try it out: the computer was using a configuration that's low on Conventional RAM. :( I probably won't be able to try it until the next time I see my mother.

I restarted the computer in DOS mode and tried SIDSHELL. I couldn't find the sample SID files. :( They were on a floppy and have a .SID extension.
Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #372316 is a reply to message #371748] Thu, 16 August 2018 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uhh...How do I play a SID file in the DOS version of SIDPlay?
Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #372325 is a reply to message #372316] Thu, 16 August 2018 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 07:59:48 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:
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> Uhh...How do I play a SID file in the DOS version of SIDPlay?

Haven't used DOS for decades. But I seem to remember you just pass the
SID file to it on the command line. Something like

sidplay c:path\to\file\Rambo.sid

That is how I do it on Linux, using vsid as part of VICE when I want to
avoid the GUI.

vsid -console /path/to/Rambo.sid

But I'm just guessing.
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Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #372342 is a reply to message #372316] Thu, 16 August 2018 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Harry Potter <rose.joseph12@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Uhh...How do I play a SID file in the DOS version of SIDPlay?

<sigh of relief> I've got your answer for you, but it took some
effort. After checking that the installation on my DOS laptop
was playing SIDs fine, I decided to give sidsetup.exe a test
run. It turns out that it deletes the old sidplay.cfg file
even if you cancel the set-up though, so I then had to run it
again to set up the sound card. And then the SID files would
no longer appear in the file selector!

After a lot of fiddling with the sidplay.cfg file to work
out what change I'd obviously made to it in the past in order
to make it work, I finally figured it out:

Change the line:
DAT_ext = .DAT
to:
DAT_ext = .SID

The manual sort of hints at this by saying that it supports
".DAT + .SID" files, but it took a long time for that to
sink in!

To be safe, I renamed "sidsetup.exe" "sidsetup.xxx" to
encourage me to think twice before sabotaging myself again.

SidPlay for DOS doesn't seem to support specifying files on
the command line like the Linux ones do.


P. S. VACSID seems to have the same probem, even with the
SID extension seemingly correctly set in its ".INI" file.
I don't know the cause of this one.

Open Cubic Player works well, but I spent some time
setting up the config file for that a long time ago.

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Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #372376 is a reply to message #372342] Fri, 17 August 2018 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Computer Nerd Kev: I thank you for your help. I'm at my mother's house with the computer right now, so I should be able to try it out soon. :)
Re: SidPlay for DOS? [message #372884 is a reply to message #372376] Mon, 27 August 2018 09:16 Go to previous message
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On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 7:57:42 AM UTC-4, Harry Potter wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev: I thank you for your help. I'm at my mother's house with the computer right now, so I should be able to try it out soon. :)

I tried it and got an error stating that there is no EMS memory. :( I disabled EMS because I wanted the extra memory for other purposes. I have QEMM386 for Windows somewhere, or if I don't, I can downloaded it from vetusware.com. However, there is a problem with the computer that certain drivers couldn't be loaded. Four of the drivers are from a dead version of QEMM I hard-uninstalled from the computer due to an incompatibility with DriveSpace. Will reinstalling fix the problem?
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