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Re: Need help with a damage archive [message #369125 is a reply to message #369118] |
Tue, 19 June 2018 07:24 |
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Originally posted by: Greg Wildman
On Mon, 2018-06-18 at 20:25 -0700, Robert Allred wrote:
> Many years ago I wrote a program and had my dad upload it. I've long
> since lost the original and the archive seems to be corrupt:
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> https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ground.icaen.uiowa.edu/apple8/ Pgms/fsm3
> 0.bsq
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> Whether I use GScii or BINSCII I get a similar error. It will create
> a Shrinkit Archive, I can see the three files, but I can only extract
> the Readme and the sample database. The actual program is what I
> can't get out.
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> I really want to try to get this so I can see what I actually did
> --and just how bad it was.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
Hi Robert,
I had the same problem. I checked my CD backups from 2003 and the file
is identical. I even went back as far as the waybackmachine would let
me (1999), identical.
https://web.archive.org/web/19991114133603/http://ground.ecn .uiowa.edu:
80/apple2/apple8/Pgms/fsm30.bsq
I even tried to see if I could find the original comp.binaries.apple2
post (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:17:38 GMT) on The Usenet Archive. Nothing.
Maybe you would have better luck.
Hopefully somebody has a copy saved somewhere.
--
Greg
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Re: Need help with a damage archive [message #369139 is a reply to message #369127] |
Tue, 19 June 2018 17:07 |
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On 2018-06-19 14:26:39 +0000, D Finnigan said:
> Greg Wildman wrote:
>> I even tried to see if I could find the original comp.binaries.apple2
>> post (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:17:38 GMT) on The Usenet Archive. Nothing.
>> Maybe you would have better luck.
>>
>> Hopefully somebody has a copy saved somewhere.
>
> Did you check this Usenet archive?
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> https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=2878
> https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=2880
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> Mac GUI Vault has the largest collection of Apple II and Macintosh binaries
> posts online. We are the Usenet archive for Apple II.
It is a useful website, but Macintosh Garden has way more Macintosh programs.
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Re: Need help with a damage archive [message #369145 is a reply to message #369130] |
Tue, 19 June 2018 20:50 |
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Originally posted by: James Davis
On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 10:01:19 AM UTC-7, Greg Wildman wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-06-19 at 14:26 +0000, D Finnigan wrote:
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> <snip>
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>> Did you check this Usenet archive?
>>
>> https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=2878
>> https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=2880
>>
>> Mac GUI Vault has the largest collection of Apple II and Macintosh
>> binaries
>> posts online. We are the Usenet archive for Apple II.
>
> Fantastic, thank you. So much for "The Usenet Archive".
>
> The first post is not corrupt. The second is the same so that means it
> was uploaded like that. Anyways I sciibin'd the file and ran through
> nulib2. I will upload the working version to Asimov.
>
> Meanwhile you can get it from the below link. I have added it to my
> ground.icaen.uiowa.edu mirror for future reference.
>
> https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ground.icaen.uiowa.edu/apple8/ Pgms/FSM3.SHK
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>
> --
> Greg
Your shrink-it archive is the only link that I could get anything out of. All the other links to the original binary code do not download nor work when saved as text [Unicode, unicode utf-8, windows (iso), or windows (western)] and renamed to bsq extension. CiderPress opens your archive but not any of the others.
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Re: Need help with a damage archive [message #369146 is a reply to message #369145] |
Tue, 19 June 2018 21:14 |
Polymorph
Messages: 206 Registered: October 2012
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On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:50:19 AM UTC+10, James Davis wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 10:01:19 AM UTC-7, Greg Wildman wrote:
>> On Tue, 2018-06-19 at 14:26 +0000, D Finnigan wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Did you check this Usenet archive?
>>>
>>> https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=2878
>>> https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=2880
>>>
>>> Mac GUI Vault has the largest collection of Apple II and Macintosh
>>> binaries
>>> posts online. We are the Usenet archive for Apple II.
>>
>> Fantastic, thank you. So much for "The Usenet Archive".
>>
>> The first post is not corrupt. The second is the same so that means it
>> was uploaded like that. Anyways I sciibin'd the file and ran through
>> nulib2. I will upload the working version to Asimov.
>>
>> Meanwhile you can get it from the below link. I have added it to my
>> ground.icaen.uiowa.edu mirror for future reference.
>>
>> https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/ground.icaen.uiowa.edu/apple8/ Pgms/FSM3.SHK
>>
>>
>> --
>> Greg
>
> Your shrink-it archive is the only link that I could get anything out of. All the other links to the original binary code do not download nor work when saved as text [Unicode, unicode utf-8, windows (iso), or windows (western)] and renamed to bsq extension. CiderPress opens your archive but not any of the others.
James,
it is a bit of a moot point now that the original Shrinkit archive has been restored; however, the Shrinkit archive you opened was rescued by using the first link (from what I can tell) to MacGUI above. You need to save the contents of the Usenet message and run BinSCII on it to recreate the original Shrinkit archive. This was the defacto standard for sharing binary files back in the day before the web took over.
You can still get BinSCII at various locations, one of which is here:
https://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Services/PDA/AppleIICompression.s html
As BinSCII is pretty much consigned to the pages of history now, you **very** seldom need to use it, but I thought I'd let you know if you weren't aware.
If you were aware, then - *** nothing to see here *** ;-)
Cheers,
Mike
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Re: Need help with a damage archive [message #369147 is a reply to message #369118] |
Tue, 19 June 2018 21:30 |
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Originally posted by: Robert Allred
Okay, now that the Shrinkit archive is working, the basic file also seems to be encoded incorrectly--totally possible that it was corrupted originally.. I gave dad the floppy disk, he emailed it from his IIgs to work, at work uploaded to Usenet.
This is what the first few lines of the basic file looks like right now:
ó:∫Á(4)"PR#3" . D$–Á(4):MM(1)–1:FLAG–0 É ÜAA$(25),AB$(25),AC $(25),AD$(25),AE$(25),AF$(25),AG$(25),AH$(25),AI$(25),AJ$(25 ) Œ ÜBA(25),BB(25),BC(25),BD(25),BE(25),BF(25),BG(25),BH (25),BI(25),BJ(25) ÜCA(25),CB(25),CC(25),CD(25),CE(25),CF(25),CG(25),CH(25),C I(25),CJ(25) d ! ÜDA(25),DB(25),DC(25),DD(25),DE(25),DF(25),DG(25),DH(25), DI(25),DJ(25) Ø " ÜEA(25),EB(25),EC(25),ED(25),EE(25),EF(25),EG(25),EH(25),E I(25),EJ(25)
# ÜGA$(25),GB$(25),GC$(25),GD$(25),GE$(25),GF$(25),GG$(25), GH$(25),GI$(25),GJ$(25) Y
$ ÜFA$(25),FB$(25),FC$(25),FD$(25),FE$(25),FF$(25),FG$(25), FH$(25),FI$(25),FJ$(25) d
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