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Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #26907 is a reply to message #26891] Sun, 02 December 2012 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John W. Kennedy is currently offline  John W. Kennedy
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On Dec 2, 2:34 am, deneb...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
> In article <k9b3ji$4s...@dent.deepthot>,  <zof...@deepthot.org> wrote:

>> We also hit a B5 panel at Phoenix Comicon this year. It was very well

>> attended and excellent.  For whatever reason, Babylon 5 is still very

>> much on the minds and in the hearts of fans.  Or maybe we just have a

>> B5 fan attraction aura. Not sure but we always seem to run into folks

>> who loved B5 and are wistful for those days.

>

> Well, I think it has alot to do with the way literary fans were in

> those days.  B5 was the first show it was 'ok' to like if you were a

> reader.  Every rant against media SF was prefixed by 'except for B5,

> of course'.  To this day people are really fond of it.


The thing about B5 isn't just that it's cool sci-fi. The elderly
organist at my church loved it, and called it "the most moral show on
television". The part of me that is a (very slightly) internationally
known Shakespeare scholar loved it. So did the part of me that played
the Earl of Gloucester in two different productions of "King Lear",
and even the part of me that managed to be a part-time professional
opera singer. (If you have never heard "Götterdämmerung", then you
cannot imagine how similar are the last minutes of each.) There is a
reason that so many actors (and not just the regular cast) speak so
highly of the show: it's full of stuff to make any serious actor
drool, and lines you can get drunk on.
Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #27213 is a reply to message #26865] Tue, 04 December 2012 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Once upon a time, Jan <janmschroeder@aol.com> said:
> Looks like there's a chance I'll make it this coming year. I snagged a

> reservation at the Marriott which is a big incentive. I hope they have

> a number of B5 guests to celebratth anniversary!


Hope to see you there! I'll remind a friend on the programming
committee about B5's anniversary.
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Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #27232 is a reply to message #27213] Tue, 04 December 2012 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:35:02 AM UTC-5, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Jan <janmschroeder@aol.com> said: >Looks like there's a chance I'll make it this coming year. I snagged a >reservation at the Marriott which is a big incentive. I hope they have >a number of B5 guests to celebratth anniversary! Hope to see you there! I'll remind a friend on the programming committee about B5's anniversary. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay..net> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.


Thanks Chris! If you're still in the same room, I'll be sure to stop by. And thanks for reminding programming about the anniversary - B5 seems to always draw a good crowd and it'd be a shame for the anniversary to not get a big celebration.

Jan
Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #27302 is a reply to message #27232] Tue, 04 December 2012 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Once upon a time, Jan <janmschroeder@aol.com> said:
> Thanks Chris! If you're still in the same room, I'll be sure to stop

> by. And thanks for reminding programming about the anniversary - B5

> seems to always draw a good crowd and it'd be a shame for the

> anniversary to not get a big celebration.


I actually escaped that room this year, although it meant I had to
suffer that big ball o' fire in the sky (the Sun burns!); I'm now one of
the roving troubleshooters/helpers/etc. for the tech staff (hanging out
in our Ops room in the Marriott until there's a problem). I saw more of
the con this year than I have in several years.

I hope we can get some B5 guests - it depends on who is available and
applies.
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Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #27428 is a reply to message #27213] Thu, 06 December 2012 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <eLadnQozJcCLlyPNnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>,
Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> Once upon a time, Jan <janmschroeder@aol.com> said:

>> Looks like there's a chance I'll make it this coming year. I snagged a

>> reservation at the Marriott which is a big incentive. I hope they have

>> a number of B5 guests to celebratth anniversary!

>

> Hope to see you there! I'll remind a friend on the programming

> committee about B5's anniversary.


Of course if you prefer to go to a convention that does not poach on
Worldcon's traditional weekend there's this one:

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/jackalope/2012/12/phoenix_c omicon_announcement.php
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Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #28592 is a reply to message #26832] Thu, 13 December 2012 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:57:44 -0500, Chris Adams wrote

(in article <YYidnZjd7anVEyTNnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>):
>

> So on the convention subject: did anybody come down for Dragon*Con this

> year? Anybody planning (or thinking) about next year? I know it has

> grown too big for some folks, but it is still a lot of fun IMHO. <<


Hey Chris!

We expect to be there. Will keep in touch as it gets closer!

Amy

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Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #28594 is a reply to message #26891] Thu, 13 December 2012 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 02:34:45 -0500, Jay Denebeim wrote

(in article <k9f0al$qgc$1@dent.deepthot>):
>

> Speaking of which, we just saw Iron Sky. Clearly the effects people

> were B5 fans, there were lots of visual references to it. when the

> good guys ships attacked it looked just like B5, plus gratuitous

> rotating secions, and ginsu knife beams. <<


The fact that I didn't even know this film *existed* is a testament to how
busy I've been. Must see.

Amy

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Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #28636 is a reply to message #28592] Thu, 13 December 2012 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Once upon a time, Amy Guskin <aisling@fjordstone.com> said:
>>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:57:44 -0500, Chris Adams wrote

> (in article <YYidnZjd7anVEyTNnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>):

>> So on the convention subject: did anybody come down for Dragon*Con this

>> year? Anybody planning (or thinking) about next year? I know it has

>> grown too big for some folks, but it is still a lot of fun IMHO. <<

>

> Hey Chris!

>

> We expect to be there. Will keep in touch as it gets closer!


Cool! Look forward to seeing some familiar faces.
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Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #320450 is a reply to message #1696] Tue, 14 June 2016 14:04 Go to previous message
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From: Captain Infinity <Infinity@captaininfinity.us>

Once Upon A Time,
Chris Adams wrote:

> Harrison Schmitt (the last man, and only pure scientist, to
> walk on the Moon) will be here in a couple of weeks for a dinner to
> celebrate the 40th anniversary of the last manned Moon landing.

Nitpick: Schmitt was the last man to step onto the Moon. Eugene Cernan was
the last man to walk on the moon. (Schmitt exited the Apollo 17 lander last
upon landing, and entered it first when they were leaving.)



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From: Jan <janmschroeder@aol.com>

On Friday, November 30, 2012 11:57:44 PM UTC-5, Chris Adams wrote:
>
> So on the convention subject: did anybody come down for Dragon*Con this
>
> year? Anybody planning (or thinking) about next year? I know it has
>
> grown too big for some folks, but it is still a lot of fun IMHO.
>
> --
>
> Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>
>

Looks like there's a chance I'll make it this coming year. I snagged a
reservation at the Marriott which is a big incentive. I hope they have a
number of B5 guests to celebratth anniversary!

Jan
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Re: Electronic versions of B5 books [message #321138 is a reply to message #26793] Tue, 14 June 2016 14:04 Go to previous message
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From: "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.com>

On 11/30/2012 2:06 PM, zofran@deepthot.org wrote:
> In article <k9aqvf$5oq$1@dont-email.me>,
> Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> zofran@deepthot.org wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, we are real people. Jay and I frequently attend conventions and
>>> would be more than happy to meet anyone from the newsgroup.Then you
>>> can report back that we aren't actually power mad ogres. Or maybe we
>>> are.
>>
>> Last night I was at a FathomEvents simulcast. It was a 25th reunion for
>> ST - TNG. The only tie in is the fact that the last time I went to a
>> Star Trek convention Babylon 5 was still on the air so to me at the time
>> it was a B5 convention that happened to have plenty of ST fans. That
>> was natural. I'm a B5 fan who'd been a ST fan forever before B5 came
>> out. It's been a very long time since I was at a convention of any sort
>> and yet WorldCon was in town this year and I missed it. Says something
>> about my priorities these days.
>
> Jay and I whad a fabulous time in your town! Sorry you missed it, the
> science programming was topnotch (Storey Musgrave! Sy Liebergot!
> squee!). We also spent time with some B5 fans!
>
> We also hit a B5 panel at Phoenix Comicon this year. It was very well
> attended and excellent. For whatever reason, Babylon 5 is still very
> much on the minds and in the hearts of fans. Or maybe we just have a
> B5 fan attraction aura. Not sure but we always seem to run into folks
> who loved B5 and are wistful for those days.
>
> We will be at Worldcon in San Antonio next year as well as at Phoenix
> Comicon.
>
> Cheryl
>
>

Well then, we'll have to have a bite on the Riverwalk.

Jay (no, the other one).
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From: Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com>

zofran@deepthot.org wrote:
>
> Also, we are real people. Jay and I frequently attend conventions and
> would be more than happy to meet anyone from the newsgroup.Then you
> can report back that we aren't actually power mad ogres. Or maybe we
> are.

Last night I was at a FathomEvents simulcast. It was a 25th reunion for
ST - TNG. The only tie in is the fact that the last time I went to a
Star Trek convention Babylon 5 was still on the air so to me at the time
it was a B5 convention that happened to have plenty of ST fans. That
was natural. I'm a B5 fan who'd been a ST fan forever before B5 came
out. It's been a very long time since I was at a convention of any sort
and yet WorldCon was in town this year and I missed it. Says something
about my priorities these days.
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From: cmadams@hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)

Once upon a time, <zofran@deepthot.org> said:
> Jay and I whad a fabulous time in your town! Sorry you missed it, the
> science programming was topnotch (Storey Musgrave! Sy Liebergot!
> squee!). We also spent time with some B5 fans!

I love listening to the astronauts' stories. We have a dinner here
every summer where we sit under the Saturn V rocket; it started as a
"Saturn/Apollo reunion" for the old engineers (they take a group picture
at the end every year, sadly of a shrinking group), and now it is a
"Manned Space Flight Celebration". They have a NASA project director
talk about the current work (so SLS and Orion now), and then we usually
get a retired astronaut telling some stories.

Sometimes, it is "only" a local astronaut, but we've had a few of the
Apollo guys come back to talk (both at the summer dinner and other
times). Harrison Schmitt (the last man, and only pure scientist, to
walk on the Moon) will be here in a couple of weeks for a dinner to
celebrate the 40th anniversary of the last manned Moon landing.

So on the convention subject: did anybody come down for Dragon*Con this
year? Anybody planning (or thinking) about next year? I know it has
grown too big for some folks, but it is still a lot of fun IMHO.
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From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>


"StarFuryG7" <StarFuryG7@aim.com> wrote in message
news:5bfadb03-2cfa-4039-a09c-ee74b2f9181e@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 24, 8:48 pm, "John W. Kennedy" <john.w.kenn...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2:41 pm, deneb...@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <1535d503-dfce-4694-94c5-846c8c16c...@b12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
>
>> StarFuryG7 <StarFur...@aim.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 8, 9:14 pm, "Nicole Massey" <ny...@gypsyheir.com> wrote:
>>> One of the things that's
>>> always bothered me about "Covert Affairs" is that one of the main
>>> characters is supposed to be something of a computer whiz even though
>>> he's blind, which I've found to be incredibly unrealistic.
>
>> She's not the first person. Software engineering/computer
>> administration is one of the traditional things a non-sited person can
>> do really well. Of course in these days of GUIs its a bit harder.
>> Plain text helps I would imagine.
>
> Back in the old days, IBM mainframe provisions for blind users were
> off-the-shelf options, such as braille adaptors for standard printers.
>
> But modern GUI frameworks do a pretty good job; text-to-speech is
> standard on Mac OS X (and iOS, too), and if Windows doesn't have it,
> well, shame on them. Of course, an individual app developer can screw
> it up, but most government departments would never pass software that
> did that.

What you people seem to be missing here, since none of you appear to
be viewers of the show I mentioned, is that the character I referenced
has to move fast, sometimes often, and that the lives of agents out n
the field depend on his getting things done as quickly as possible. It
seems to me that as a person who's blind, he's probably not the best
qualified for that kind of a position.
- ---
You'd be surprised how fast a blind person can move about and do things in
an environment in which he or she has control of the space. Of course I
can't comment on the show, as I've not heard of it, much less seen it or
more accurately listened to it.
But since you said nothing about needs for mobility in your first post,
instead just commenting on the character being a computer whiz, we had no
indication of any need to be able to move around, did we? Please put the
goalposts back where you found them.
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From: denebeim@deepthot.org (Jay Denebeim)

In article <k9b3ji$4sc$1@dent.deepthot>, <zofran@deepthot.org> wrote:
> We also hit a B5 panel at Phoenix Comicon this year. It was very well
> attended and excellent. For whatever reason, Babylon 5 is still very
> much on the minds and in the hearts of fans. Or maybe we just have a
> B5 fan attraction aura. Not sure but we always seem to run into folks
> who loved B5 and are wistful for those days.

Well, I think it has alot to do with the way literary fans were in
those days. B5 was the first show it was 'ok' to like if you were a
reader. Every rant against media SF was prefixed by 'except for B5,
of course'. To this day people are really fond of it.

Speaking of which, we just saw Iron Sky. Clearly the effects people
were B5 fans, there were lots of visual references to it. when the
good guys ships attacked it looked just like B5, plus gratuitous
rotating secions, and ginsu knife beams.

Jay
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