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1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366035] Wed, 04 April 2018 18:02 Go to next message
hancock4 is currently offline  hancock4
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article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.

https://books.google.com/books?id=DFQEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA93& amp;dq=life%20eberhard%20faber&pg=PA92#v=onepage&q&a mp;f=false

(following is a cute ad for Pink Pearl and other erasers).
Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366036 is a reply to message #366035] Wed, 04 April 2018 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.
>

It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a Concordance for the Bible.
Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366055 is a reply to message #366036] Thu, 05 April 2018 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:16:12 PM UTC-6, Al Kossow wrote:
> On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.

> It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a Concordance for the Bible.

Of course, putting the Bible on a computer in the plainer sense also happened.
Thus, a Bible with the RSV text was typeset using an ICT 1500 computer that I
mentioned in this newsgroup once.

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Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366066 is a reply to message #366055] Thu, 05 April 2018 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Charles Richmond is currently offline  Charles Richmond
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On 4/5/2018 10:53 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:16:12 PM UTC-6, Al Kossow wrote:
>> On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>> article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.
>
>> It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a Concordance for the Bible.
>
> Of course, putting the Bible on a computer in the plainer sense also happened.
> Thus, a Bible with the RSV text was typeset using an ICT 1500 computer that I
> mentioned in this newsgroup once.
>

ISTM the Holy Bible (Old and New testaments) in ASCII requires less than
five megabytes of storage spce. That sounds rivial today, but of course
it was *not* trivial in the early 1970's. ISTM that five megabytes
requires something like 62,500 80-column punch cards.


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Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366070 is a reply to message #366066] Thu, 05 April 2018 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andreas Kohlbach is currently offline  Andreas Kohlbach
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:49:01 -0500, Charles Richmond wrote:
>
> On 4/5/2018 10:53 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:16:12 PM UTC-6, Al Kossow wrote:
>>> On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>> article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.
>>
>>> It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a Concordance for the Bible.
>>
>> Of course, putting the Bible on a computer in the plainer sense also happened.
>> Thus, a Bible with the RSV text was typeset using an ICT 1500 computer that I
>> mentioned in this newsgroup once.
>>
>
> ISTM the Holy Bible (Old and New testaments) in ASCII requires less
> than five megabytes of storage spce. That sounds rivial today, but of
> course it was *not* trivial in the early 1970's. ISTM that five
> megabytes requires something like 62,500 80-column punch cards.

I was (and think I mentioned that already here) I was talking to a pal
in 1987, that I heard about a Gigabyte data medium coming in the near
future. That it would just use 2% of its space if you put the Bible on
it. The future is bright! :-) Well the 90s and thereafter got boring though.
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Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366080 is a reply to message #366070] Thu, 05 April 2018 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 4/5/2018 3:49 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:49:01 -0500, Charles Richmond wrote:
>>
>> On 4/5/2018 10:53 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:16:12 PM UTC-6, Al Kossow wrote:
>>>> On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>> > article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.
>>>
>>>> It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a Concordance for the Bible.
>>>
>>> Of course, putting the Bible on a computer in the plainer sense also happened.
>>> Thus, a Bible with the RSV text was typeset using an ICT 1500 computer that I
>>> mentioned in this newsgroup once.
>>>
>>
>> ISTM the Holy Bible (Old and New testaments) in ASCII requires less
>> than five megabytes of storage spce. That sounds rivial today, but of
>> course it was *not* trivial in the early 1970's. ISTM that five
>> megabytes requires something like 62,500 80-column punch cards.
>
> I was (and think I mentioned that already here) I was talking to a pal
> in 1987, that I heard about a Gigabyte data medium coming in the near
> future. That it would just use 2% of its space if you put the Bible on
> it. The future is bright! :-) Well the 90s and thereafter got boring though.
>

Even at five megabytes, the Bible could fit on a data CD over 125 times!
That's less than 1% of the space on the CD...

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Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366087 is a reply to message #366066] Thu, 05 April 2018 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:49:01 -0500, Charles Richmond
<numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:

> On 4/5/2018 10:53 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:16:12 PM UTC-6, Al Kossow wrote:
>>> On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>> article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.
>>
>>> It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a Concordance for the Bible.
>>
>> Of course, putting the Bible on a computer in the plainer sense also happened.
>> Thus, a Bible with the RSV text was typeset using an ICT 1500 computer that I
>> mentioned in this newsgroup once.
>>
>
> ISTM the Holy Bible (Old and New testaments) in ASCII requires less than
> five megabytes of storage spce. That sounds rivial today, but of course
> it was *not* trivial in the early 1970's. ISTM that five megabytes
> requires something like 62,500 80-column punch cards.

At one point I had on one of my machines an APL workspace containing
the entire Bible in a single vector.
Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366094 is a reply to message #366066] Fri, 06 April 2018 04:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Gareth's Downstairs Computer

On 05/04/2018 20:49, Charles Richmond wrote:
> On 4/5/2018 10:53 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:16:12 PM UTC-6, Al Kossow wrote:
>>> On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>> article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.
>>> It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a
>>> Concordance for the Bible.
>>
>> Of course, putting the Bible on a computer in the plainer sense also
>> happened.
>> Thus, a Bible with the RSV text was typeset using an ICT 1500 computer
>> that I
>> mentioned in this newsgroup once.
>>
>
> ISTM the Holy Bible (Old and New testaments) in ASCII requires less than
> five megabytes of storage spce.  That sounds rivial today, but of course
> it was *not* trivial in the early 1970's.  ISTM that five megabytes
> requires something like 62,500 80-column punch cards.
>
>

But why would anyne bother when there are a myriad of other works
of fiction and / or make-believe available?
Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366100 is a reply to message #366087] Fri, 06 April 2018 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Charles Richmond is currently offline  Charles Richmond
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On 4/5/2018 9:00 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:49:01 -0500, Charles Richmond
> <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/2018 10:53 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:16:12 PM UTC-6, Al Kossow wrote:
>>>> On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>> > article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.
>>>
>>>> It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a Concordance for the Bible.
>>>
>>> Of course, putting the Bible on a computer in the plainer sense also happened.
>>> Thus, a Bible with the RSV text was typeset using an ICT 1500 computer that I
>>> mentioned in this newsgroup once.
>>>
>>
>> ISTM the Holy Bible (Old and New testaments) in ASCII requires less than
>> five megabytes of storage spce. That sounds rivial today, but of course
>> it was *not* trivial in the early 1970's. ISTM that five megabytes
>> requires something like 62,500 80-column punch cards.
>
> At one point I had on one of my machines an APL workspace containing
> the entire Bible in a single vector.
>


Ahhh... you just forgot to close your quote... ;-)

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Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366113 is a reply to message #366035] Fri, 06 April 2018 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2018-04-05, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

> On 2018-04-05, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/2018 10:53 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 4:16:12 PM UTC-6, Al Kossow wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.
>>>>
>>>> It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a Concordance
>>>> for the Bible.
>>>
>>> Of course, putting the Bible on a computer in the plainer sense also
>>> happened. Thus, a Bible with the RSV text was typeset using an ICT 1500
>>> computer that I mentioned in this newsgroup once.
>>
>> ISTM the Holy Bible (Old and New testaments) in ASCII requires less than
>> five megabytes of storage spce.
>
> [huge@amun ~/Desktop]: ls -l /data/Media/Books/Fiction/KingJamesBible.txt
> -rw-r--r-- 1 huge huge 4451502 Nov 27 2016 /data/Media/Books/Fiction/KingJamesBible.txt
>
> There you go. 4.45Mb.

Yup. The version I got my hands on came on three 5 1/4-inch floppies.
(It must have been compressed - probably ARC, since it predated zip.)

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Re: 1957 Bible index put on computer [message #366142 is a reply to message #366036] Sat, 07 April 2018 15:39 Go to previous message
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On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 6:16:12 PM UTC-4, Al Kossow wrote:
> On 4/4/18 3:02 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> article in LIFE magazine about putting the bible on a computer.
>>
>
> It's actually about using a Univac computer to to produce a Concordance for the Bible.

Here is another 1956 article about the project:
https://books.google.com/books?id=8CkDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=RA1-P A174&dq=bible%20on%20computer&pg=RA1-PA173#v=onepage &q&f=false
(also has workshop and electronic tips as of 1956).
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