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Take it easy? [message #362903] Thu, 08 February 2018 18:43 Go to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Adrian Wallaschek

Hi!

In the good old times, this little boy went to the computer club. We copied software like hell and it took ... ages ... for just a single disk. Nibble Away and Locksmith were awefully slow.

Then somebody brought in another copy program. It kind of max'd out the speed for a copy and it copied disks that even the heavy weight copiers did not manage.

I kind-of remember a name like "Take It Easy", but I am not sure. Tried to find it ... failed.

I need to copy a lot of old disks so I thought something fast would be fine.

If the name I remeber is wrong: kindly propose some copy utility that is fast and does not require the disks to be formatted, first.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Adrian

PS: and yes, sure, I only copy freeware or abandonware ;-)
Take it easy? [message #362965 is a reply to message #362903] Fri, 09 February 2018 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Delfs

I use locksmith 6.0, conveniently extracted from the original disk (thanks to computist magazine) and placed with others on my DOS33 Utilities disk. I use a fast dos and a tiny menu program, I can be copying disks in under 30 seconds. I cheat and also have a write protect override button on the destination drive.
I like locksmith as I can set drive 0 as destination and copy to ram, then set it as source to make multiple copies. It recognizes aux ram and slinky cards so it can do as much in one pass as possible. Just wish it did 3.5 disks too.
Locksmith 6.0 formats as it goes, can patch the header and epilogue for reading and writing and allows you select specific track to nag that bad sector into copying. Optionally will read it back as it writes to verify and it can also compare disks sector by sector.
I never realized back in the day how powerful it was. I've used it to crack disks, and build special formatted disk that are copy protected.
Sadly I have not used it in recent memory, not too many people need copy disks these days.
Re: Take it easy? [message #362973 is a reply to message #362903] Fri, 09 February 2018 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: J. Random Hacker

On 2018-02-08 23:43:59 +0000, Adrian Wallaschek said:
> Then somebody brought in another copy program. It kind of max'd out the
> speed for a copy and it copied disks that even the heavy weight copiers
> did not manage.

Are you thinking of Disk Muncher? It greatly increased the speed of
copying discs, but unfortunately it was at the cost of accuracy. I
remember it producing a LOT of bad copies at the swap meets. Locksmith
6.0 Fast Copy is the way to go!
Re: Take it easy? [message #362993 is a reply to message #362973] Fri, 09 February 2018 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Mark D. Overholser

On 09-Feb-18 05:46, J. Random Hacker wrote:
> On 2018-02-08 23:43:59 +0000, Adrian Wallaschek said:
>> Then somebody brought in another copy program. It kind of max'd out
>> the speed for a copy and it copied disks that even the heavy weight
>> copiers did not manage.
>
> Are you thinking of Disk Muncher? It greatly increased the speed of
> copying discs, but unfortunately it was at the cost of accuracy. I
> remember it producing a LOT of bad copies at the swap meets. Locksmith
> 6.0 Fast Copy is the way to go!
>


I have very good results with Disk Muncher... But only on Standard
Disks....


For all the Protected Stuff, Copy ][ Plus Bit Copy and LockSmith....


MarkO
Re: Take it easy? [message #362996 is a reply to message #362903] Fri, 09 February 2018 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Jorge

Locksmith +1
Re: Take it easy? [message #363009 is a reply to message #362993] Fri, 09 February 2018 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: TheJ

Mark D. Overholser wrote:
> On 09-Feb-18 05:46, J. Random Hacker wrote:
>> On 2018-02-08 23:43:59 +0000, Adrian Wallaschek said:
>>> Then somebody brought in another copy program. It kind of max'd out
>>> the speed for a copy and it copied disks that even the heavy weight
>>> copiers did not manage.
>>
>> Are you thinking of Disk Muncher? It greatly increased the speed of
>> copying discs, but unfortunately it was at the cost of accuracy. I
>> remember it producing a LOT of bad copies at the swap meets. Locksmith
>> 6.0 Fast Copy is the way to go!
>>
>
>
> I have very good results with Disk Muncher... But only on Standard
> Disks....
>
>
> For all the Protected Stuff, Copy ][ Plus Bit Copy and LockSmith....
>
>
> MarkO
>

I had good results with Disk Muncher too.
Didn't it have HexEditor too?

j
Re: Take it easy? [message #363106 is a reply to message #362973] Sat, 10 February 2018 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael J. Mahon is currently offline  Michael J. Mahon
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J. Random Hacker <jrh@fake.com> wrote:
> On 2018-02-08 23:43:59 +0000, Adrian Wallaschek said:
>> Then somebody brought in another copy program. It kind of max'd out the
>> speed for a copy and it copied disks that even the heavy weight copiers
>> did not manage.
>
> Are you thinking of Disk Muncher? It greatly increased the speed of
> copying discs, but unfortunately it was at the cost of accuracy. I
> remember it producing a LOT of bad copies at the swap meets. Locksmith
> 6.0 Fast Copy is the way to go!
>
>

Yes.

I was using it to make data backups until I discovered (sadly) that it
ignored errors!

--
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com
Re: Take it easy? [message #363126 is a reply to message #362903] Sat, 10 February 2018 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mmphosis is currently offline  mmphosis
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Adrian Wallaschek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> In the good old times, this little boy went to the computer club. We
> copied
> software like hell and it took ... ages ... for just a single disk. Nibble
> Away and Locksmith were awefully slow.
>
> Then somebody brought in another copy program. It kind of max'd out the
> speed for a copy and it copied disks that even the heavy weight copiers
> did
> not manage.
>
> I kind-of remember a name like "Take It Easy", but I am not sure. Tried to
> find it ... failed.
>
> I need to copy a lot of old disks so I thought something fast would be
> fine.
>
> If the name I remeber is wrong: kindly propose some copy utility that is
> fast and does not require the disks to be formatted, first.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian
>
> PS: and yes, sure, I only copy freeware or abandonware ;-)
>

Thanks for the flashback.

# ./dskcatalog ../diskcopy-programs.dsk
.../diskcopy-programs.dsk

DISK VOLUME 254

*B 010 BOOT13
*B 017 COPY ][+
*B 003 COPY.OBJ0
*A 009 COPYA
*B 007 COPYD
*B 021 DISK RECOVERY
*A 005 HELLO
*B 085 LOCKSMITH 4.1
*B 004 NIBBLE COPY ][
*B 120 NIBBLES AWAY
*B 093 SUPER COPY
*B 018 DISK MUNCHER V1.0
*B 041 DISK FIXER
*B 018 BIN.PIRACY

I seem to remember, or more likely forget, that "COPY ][+" was fast, but
later versions of LOCKSMITH are better as others have noted.
Re: Take it easy? [message #363131 is a reply to message #362903] Sat, 10 February 2018 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Adrian Wallaschek

Thanks a lot.

As I am "restarting" with a couple of Apple IIsomething in various configs (hardware vacuumed from ebay over the last years).

Now it is time to care for the software, meaning endless disk-copying, archiving, ordering, and tons of disk images on SD for the few machines I have a CFFA for (2 more to come with the next batch - *evil grin*).

Maybe one day I'll find the exact program I was looking for. In the mean time your proposals are worth a lot to me, as the copy programm is a key factor for me. Each machine shall have a few themes I want it to play with. So each gets its dedicated software collection. Proper tools ease the job.

So, thanks guys!

Adrian
Re: Take it easy? [message #363689 is a reply to message #363126] Fri, 16 February 2018 18:10 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: joltenjoe

Diskmuncher !! Loved that one from the stack or corrupt computing. Supercopy was ok too.

There was one other speed copier out there I had used but I do forget the name.
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