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Using SATA and IDE drives in same G4 Macintosh [message #362399] Sat, 03 February 2018 12:14 Go to next message
William Tomcanin is currently offline  William Tomcanin
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Does anyone have experience with having both and IDE and SATA (via
SATA-to-IDE adapter) installed in the same G4 Macintosh?

I currently have two rotational drives, one with Tiger installed, the other
with Leopard on my G4 2002 Quicksilver. The Leopard drive is beginning to
should "yellow" SMART indicators, and I'd like to replace it with an SSD.

Is this possible to have an IDE and SATA drives on the same cable (with
adapter, of course)? If so, does it matter which is set to master/slave?

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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Re: Using SATA and IDE drives in same G4 Macintosh [message #362596 is a reply to message #362399] Mon, 05 February 2018 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manoah F. Adams is currently offline  Manoah F. Adams
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I have used both together on the same machine but I don't know I if I have
actually tried both on the same cable before but I don't think there would
be a problem. The SATA drive is on an adapter and so the machine doesn't
see it as a SATA. However, I am very sure that most adapters are going to
be preset as Cable Select (CS) so I would set the ATA drive likewise.

On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 9:14:39 AM UTC-8, Bill wrote:
>
> Does anyone have experience with having both and IDE and SATA (via
> SATA-to-IDE adapter) installed in the same G4 Macintosh?
>
> I currently have two rotational drives, one with Tiger installed, the
> other with Leopard on my G4 2002 Quicksilver. The Leopard drive is
> beginning to should "yellow" SMART indicators, and I'd like to replace it
> with an SSD.
>
> Is this possible to have an IDE and SATA drives on the same cable (with
> adapter, of course)? If so, does it matter which is set to master/slave?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bill
>

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Re: Using SATA and IDE drives in same G4 Macintosh [message #362673 is a reply to message #362596] Tue, 06 February 2018 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
William is currently offline  William
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The only thing that you might have to do is change out the drive power plug
as the adapter might not have it included.
I have a G4 MDD with a 500 gb SATA drive fitted via an adapter in it and
under it there is a 160 gb ATA hdd . All I needed to do is put a psu
fitment on the power line on the same line as the old drive.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:13 PM, mhfadams <mhfadams@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have used both together on the same machine but I don't know I if I have
> actually tried both on the same cable before but I don't think there would
> be a problem. The SATA drive is on an adapter and so the machine doesn't
> see it as a SATA. However, I am very sure that most adapters are going to
> be preset as Cable Select (CS) so I would set the ATA drive likewise.
>
>
> On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 9:14:39 AM UTC-8, Bill wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with having both and IDE and SATA (via
>> SATA-to-IDE adapter) installed in the same G4 Macintosh?
>>
>> I currently have two rotational drives, one with Tiger installed, the
>> other with Leopard on my G4 2002 Quicksilver. The Leopard drive is
>> beginning to should "yellow" SMART indicators, and I'd like to replace it
>> with an SSD.
>>
>> Is this possible to have an IDE and SATA drives on the same cable (with
>> adapter, of course)? If so, does it matter which is set to master/slave?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Bill
>>
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Re: Using SATA and IDE drives in same G4 Macintosh [message #362684 is a reply to message #362673] Tue, 06 February 2018 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
William Tomcanin is currently offline  William Tomcanin
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Thanks for the replies everyone. The Addonics converter has a
floppy-to-IDE power adapter plug included. Now that I was able to get a
working Leopard system installed on the SSD, everything seems to be working
fine - at least for the past 36 hours :-)

I'm still at a loss to understand why the Mac OS X 10.4 DVD Installer
recognized the drive, but the Mac OS X 10.5 Installer doesn't.

In any case, since cloning the system from my HDD to the new SSD, Leopard
is working.

Bill

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:03 AM, William Bowles <williambowles32@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The only thing that you might have to do is change out the drive power
> plug as the adapter might not have it included.
> I have a G4 MDD with a 500 gb SATA drive fitted via an adapter in it and
> under it there is a 160 gb ATA hdd . All I needed to do is put a psu
> fitment on the power line on the same line as the old drive.
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:13 PM, mhfadams <mhfadams@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have used both together on the same machine but I don't know I if I
>> have actually tried both on the same cable before but I don't think there
>> would be a problem. The SATA drive is on an adapter and so the machine
>> doesn't see it as a SATA. However, I am very sure that most adapters are
>> going to be preset as Cable Select (CS) so I would set the ATA drive
>> likewise.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 9:14:39 AM UTC-8, Bill wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with having both and IDE and SATA (via
>>> SATA-to-IDE adapter) installed in the same G4 Macintosh?
>>>
>>> I currently have two rotational drives, one with Tiger installed, the
>>> other with Leopard on my G4 2002 Quicksilver. The Leopard drive is
>>> beginning to should "yellow" SMART indicators, and I'd like to replace it
>>> with an SSD.
>>>
>>> Is this possible to have an IDE and SATA drives on the same cable (with
>>> adapter, of course)? If so, does it matter which is set to master/slave?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Bill
>>>
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Re: Using SATA and IDE drives in same G4 Macintosh [message #362701 is a reply to message #362684] Tue, 06 February 2018 12:32 Go to previous message
Mac User #330250 is currently offline  Mac User #330250
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On 2018-02-06 16:24, William Tomcanin wrote:
> I'm still at a loss to understand why the Mac OS X 10.4 DVD Installer recognized
> the drive, but the Mac OS X 10.5 Installer doesn't.

10.5(.0) was buggy. Unfortunately it's not possible to create a 10.5.8
installation DVD, but my guess is that this last Leopard update would
show the drives normally.

Cheers,
Mac User #330250

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