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Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one. [message #92790 is a reply to message #89080] Sun, 30 June 2013 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
faithie999 is currently offline  faithie999
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someone gave me a "dead" 23" cinema display last year. i assumed the power
brick was bad, but couldn't find one locally. so, i disassembled the
display and traced the power wiring coming in from the brick to the circuit
board. i found that there was in fact 120V coming from the brick so that
wasn't the problem.

after lots of googling, i found this site which proved to be my problem:

http://www.ehmac.ca/mac-iphone-ipad-ipod-help-troubleshootin g/75311-cinema-display-troubleshooting-parts-2.html

the voltage regulator mentioned in that post apparently was undersized by
the engineer who designed the circuitry, and burns out after a while. the
post recommends a higher-capacity voltage regulator. it is somewhat bigger
than the original one, and won't fit in the same location. if memory
serves, it just cost a few dollars to buy.

what i did was de-solder the faulty regulator and attached 3 wires to the 3
contacts on the board the old regulator was soldered to. then i soldered
the new voltage regulator to the proper one of the 3 new wires, wrapped the
contacts with electrical tape, and taped it to a spot in the monitor case
where there was sufficient room.

this isn't for the faint of heart, but if you know your way around a
soldering iron (low wattage) and have the nerve to open the case, this
might be your fix.

you also may be able to persuade a local PC repair shop to do this for you
if you provide them the instructions.

good luck

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Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one. [message #92791 is a reply to message #92790] Sun, 30 June 2013 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
faithie999 is currently offline  faithie999
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i should have said that the fix that worked for me is mentioned in post #15
of the link i posted in my original reply, and links to pictures (fuzzy,
unfortunately) of the location of the voltage regulator on the motherboard
are in post #16. post 15 mentions the part number of the suggested
replacement voltage regulator as LM1086. here is a link to ebay listings
for that item.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.T R0.TRC0.XLM1086&_nkw=LM1086&_sacat=0&_from=R40



On Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:29:44 PM UTC-4, faithie999 wrote:
>

> someone gave me a "dead" 23" cinema display last year. i assumed the

> power brick was bad, but couldn't find one locally. so, i disassembled the

> display and traced the power wiring coming in from the brick to the circuit

> board. i found that there was in fact 120V coming from the brick so that

> wasn't the problem.

>

> after lots of googling, i found this site which proved to be my problem:

>

>

> http://www.ehmac.ca/mac-iphone-ipad-ipod-help-troubleshootin g/75311-cinema-display-troubleshooting-parts-2.html

>

> the voltage regulator mentioned in that post apparently was undersized by

> the engineer who designed the circuitry, and burns out after a while. the

> post recommends a higher-capacity voltage regulator. it is somewhat bigger

> than the original one, and won't fit in the same location. if memory

> serves, it just cost a few dollars to buy.

>

> what i did was de-solder the faulty regulator and attached 3 wires to the

> 3 contacts on the board the old regulator was soldered to. then i soldered

> the new voltage regulator to the proper one of the 3 new wires, wrapped the

> contacts with electrical tape, and taped it to a spot in the monitor case

> where there was sufficient room.

>

> this isn't for the faint of heart, but if you know your way around a

> soldering iron (low wattage) and have the nerve to open the case, this

> might be your fix.

>

> you also may be able to persuade a local PC repair shop to do this for you

> if you provide them the instructions.

>

> good luck

>


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Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one. [message #92797 is a reply to message #92790] Sun, 30 June 2013 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> what i did was de-solder the faulty regulator and attached 3 wires to the

> 3

> contacts on the board the old regulator was soldered to. then i soldered

> the new voltage regulator to the proper one of the 3 new wires, wrapped

> the

> contacts with electrical tape, and taped it to a spot in the monitor case

> where there was sufficient room.

>

> this isn't for the faint of heart, but if you know your way around a

> soldering iron (low wattage) and have the nerve to open the case, this

> might be your fix.


"Remoting" the voltage regulator is generally OK, providing:

1) the leads are short, or

2) should the leads be long, you also include stability-improving caps
directly on the V.R., and

3) you "encapsulate" the composite assembly in heat shrink tubing.

Back in the bad old days, such V.R.s were generally made in + and - 5
volts and + and - 12 volts. Today, + 3.3 volts is also to be found.

No matter, the various manufacturers (National Semi was once at the
forefront of these developments, as they had Bob Widlar, arguably the
finest "linear" IC developer in the history of Silly-cone Valley) now
provide other voltages, and often some are available in really out-sized 3
and 5 amp versions in modified TO-3 packages, generally identified as
"TO-3 Steel".



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Unresponsive script warning on Facebook [message #93641 is a reply to message #88697] Wed, 03 July 2013 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Wakefield is currently offline  Don Wakefield
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Up until Yahoo forced the change to the New Mail, I was happily using the Classic version. Now that they have forced the change, I can't be the only one left behind. (Select all buttons are missing, Next buttons send you back to the list view every time you delete a correspondence, and untold numbers of other irritations.) What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users are left with.

Don Wakefield
DTPetc! (DeskTop Productions et cetera!)
Ballwin, Missouri, USA

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Re: Yahoo mail troubles [message #93642 is a reply to message #93641] Wed, 03 July 2013 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 3 Jul 2013, at 16:53:57 PDT, Don Wakefield wrote:

> What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an

> alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we

> Leopard users are left with.

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GMail.

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Re: Yahoo mail troubles [message #93643 is a reply to message #93642] Wed, 03 July 2013 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eric Hall is currently offline  Eric Hall
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You can use the mobile version.

http://us.m.yahoo.com/p/mail




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On 3 Jul 2013, at 16:53:57 PDT, Don Wakefield wrote:

> What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an 

> alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we 

> Leopard users are left with.

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Re: Yahoo mail troubles [message #93729 is a reply to message #93641] Thu, 04 July 2013 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> or at least a workaround ...


I've been using Yahoo Mail as an IMAP server for Mac Mail - works very well.

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Re: Yahoo mail troubles [message #93730 is a reply to message #93641] Thu, 04 July 2013 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 4:53 PM -0700 07/03/2013, Don Wakefield wrote:
> Up until Yahoo forced the change to the New Mail, I was happily

> using the Classic version. Now that they have forced the change, I

> can't be the only one left behind. (Select all buttons are missing,

> Next buttons send you back to the list view every time you delete a

> correspondence, and untold numbers of other irritations.) What

> suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate

> solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users

> are left with.


What browser (and vers) are you using?

I was just puttering around in Yahoo's webmail this morning (my
'throwaway' email address), and had no big problems. Safari 5.0.6 w/
Leopard-WebKit. Overall it was crapyahootastic slow and typically
cumbersome, but then their webmail interface has never been very good.

The "select all" function is there. At the top/above of the select
checkboxes, there's an unlabeled checkbox with a wee triangle next to
it. Click that box to select everything. Use the drop-down menu
from the triangle to do other things.

The real alternate solution -- get off Yahoo Mail. Switch to Gmail.
It's completely free, has a better web interface, and supports both
POP3 and IMAP.

- Dan.
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Re: Yahoo mail troubles [message #93762 is a reply to message #93729] Thu, 04 July 2013 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Brian Harding <b.harding@qmul.ac.uk> wrote:

>> or at least a workaround ...

>

> I've been using Yahoo Mail as an IMAP server for Mac Mail - works very well.


Pretty sure that requires the Yahoo Pro mail (the paid version) although it's been years since I tried...


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Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one. [message #94073 is a reply to message #92797] Mon, 01 July 2013 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:23:13 PM UTC-5, PH wrote:
>

>

>> what i did was de-solder the faulty regulator and attached 3 wires to

> the

>> 3 contacts on the board the old regulator was soldered to. then i

> soldered

>> the new voltage regulator to the proper one of the 3 new wires, wrapped

>> the contacts with electrical tape, and taped it to a spot in the

> monitor case

>> where there was sufficient room.

>

> "Remoting" the voltage regulator is generally OK, providing:

>

> 1) the leads are short, or

>

> 2) should the leads be long, you also include stability-improving caps

> directly on the V.R., and

>

> 3) you "encapsulate" the composite assembly in heat shrink tubing.

>

> Back in the bad old days, such V.R.s were generally made in + and - 5

> volts and + and - 12 volts. Today, + 3.3 volts is also to be found.

>


The LT1086 is an adjustable voltage regulator. The voltage you get out is
set by the ratio of two resistors connected to the regulator. Long wires
might affect that ratio, but it shouldn't be a problem as long as the wire
gauge is relatively substantial.

The LT1086 was also used on the first generation PPC machines (NuBus PPC)
to provide steady voltage to the PP601.

Jeff Walther


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Fw: Re: Yahoo mail troubles [message #94584 is a reply to message #93641] Sun, 07 July 2013 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ATTENTION LISTERS:
1. DO NOT move to the YAHOO NEW MAIL it is a mess, buggy, slow, all in all a first year programmers D- grade project.
2. IF YOU DID make the mistake of going to NEW MAIL, under the GEAR you can select the BASIC version, this too is grade D- but is better than the FANCY mail that is a mess, it does not have next message, so you have to constantly go back to INBOX to select the next message.
3. GMAIL is far too hard to use, is not popular, but does work.
4. I have sent 3 hard copy letters to YAHOO CEO but got nowhere.
5. I have posted DANGERS on Yahoo QUESTIONS and now THEY CLAIM I have to change my password ON EACH OF 7 ACCOUNTS what a cheap shot.
6. Apple mail is poor and hard to use also.
7. Does anyone have a simple mail to use?
8. I even offered to PAY YAHOO to return me to CLASSIC, but they refused.
9. We have
been using Yahoo Mail as the best start up and put about 10 new accounts on per month, now NONE AT ALL.

JML.

"I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway"





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Re: Yahoo mail troubles [message #94585 is a reply to message #93641] Sat, 06 July 2013 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ATTENTION LISTERS:
1. DO NOT move to the YAHOO NEW MAIL it is a mess, buggy, slow, all in all a first year programmers D- grade project.
2. IF YOU DID make the mistake of going to NEW MAIL, under the GEAR you can select the BASIC version, this too is grade D- but is better than the FANCY mail that is a mess, it does not have next message, so you have to constantly go back to INBOX to select the next message.
3. GMAIL is far too hard to use, is not popular, but does work.
4. I have sent 3 hard copy letters to YAHOO CEO but got nowhere.
5. I have posted DANGERS on Yahoo QUESTIONS and now THEY CLAIM I have to change my password ON EACH OF 7 ACCOUNTS what a cheap shot.
6. Apple mail is poor and hard to use also.
7. Does anyone have a simple mail to use?
8. I even offered to PAY YAHOO to return me to CLASSIC, but they refused.
9. We have been using Yahoo Mail as the best start up and put about 10 new accounts on per month, now NONE AT ALL.

JML.

"I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway"



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From: Don Wakefield <dtpetc@yahoo.com>
Subject: Yahoo mail troubles
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2013, 4:53 PM

Up until Yahoo forced the change to the New Mail, I was happily using the Classic version. Now that they have forced the change, I can't be the only one left behind. (Select all buttons are missing, Next buttons send you back to the list view every time you delete a correspondence, and untold numbers of other irritations.) What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users are left with.

Don Wakefield
DTPetc! (DeskTop Productions et cetera!)
Ballwin, Missouri, USA

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Re: Re: Yahoo mail troubles [message #94586 is a reply to message #94584] Tue, 09 July 2013 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eric Hall is currently offline  Eric Hall
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Once again - use the mobile version. It works fine on a desktop. The url is:


http://us.m.yahoo.com/p/mail

Cut and paste that into your browser. You don't have to give up your yahoo email address.



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Subject: Fw: Re: Yahoo mail troubles






>

> ATTENTION LISTERS:

> 1. DO NOT move to the YAHOO NEW MAIL it is a mess, buggy, slow, all in all a first year programmers D- grade project.

> 2. IF YOU DID make the mistake of going to NEW MAIL, under the GEAR you can select the BASIC version, this too is grade D- but is better than the FANCY mail that is a mess, it does not have next message, so you have to constantly go back to INBOX to select the next message.

> 3. GMAIL is far too hard to use, is

not popular, but does work.
> 4. I have sent 3 hard copy letters to YAHOO CEO but got nowhere.

> 5. I have posted DANGERS on Yahoo QUESTIONS and now THEY CLAIM I have to change my password ON EACH OF 7 ACCOUNTS what a cheap shot.

> 6. Apple mail is poor and hard to use also.

> 7. Does anyone have a simple mail to use?

> 8. I even offered to PAY YAHOO to return me to CLASSIC, but they refused.

> 9. We have

been using Yahoo Mail as the best start up and put about 10 new accounts on per month, now NONE AT ALL.
>

> JML.

>

> "I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway"

>

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Re: Yahoo mail troubles [message #94600 is a reply to message #94585] Tue, 09 July 2013 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Jonas Lopez <jonaslopez@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> 3. GMAIL is far too hard to use, is not popular, but does work.

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Unresponsive script warning on Facebook [message #98707 is a reply to message #93641] Mon, 22 July 2013 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use Firefox 17.0.7. For the past couple of months Firefox quits all the
time. I've steadily upgraded the thing but nothing changes. Sometimes I
give up and try Safari again, but that quits too.
I have a DA G4 running 10.4.11.
Any suggestions, preferably none that cost money.

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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #98708 is a reply to message #98707] Mon, 22 July 2013 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I use Firefox 17.0.7. For the past couple of months Firefox quits all the

> time. I've steadily upgraded the thing but nothing changes. Sometimes I

> give up and try Safari again, but that quits too.

> I have a DA G4 running 10.4.11.

> Any suggestions, preferably none that cost money.


If you're starting to see problems with all the browsers, are you sure
you don't have a hardware issue starting to appear?

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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #98709 is a reply to message #98708] Mon, 22 July 2013 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 9:31 AM -0700 07/22/2013, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> At 9:28 AM -0700 07/22/2013, smac0031 wrote:

>> I use Firefox 17.0.7. For the past couple of months Firefox quits

>> all the time. I've steadily upgraded the thing but nothing changes.

>> Sometimes I give up and try Safari again, but that quits too.

>> I have a DA G4 running 10.4.11.

>

> If you're starting to see problems with all the browsers, are you

> sure you don't have a hardware issue starting to appear?


Or some other software corruption on your HD or ...

How 'bout some details? Do specific web pages cause 'em to crash?
If so, give us the urls. Have you tried doing the basics - clearing
caches and such? What plug-ins / add-ons / extensions do you have
installed? What else is failing....

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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #98942 is a reply to message #98707] Tue, 23 July 2013 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oops, the indents on my post were rather confusing. So:
Mark, you say you uss Firefox 17.0.7 on Tiger, but as far as I know, the
newest version that works in Tiger is 3.6.28

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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #98943 is a reply to message #98707] Tue, 23 July 2013 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Il giorno 22/07/13 18.28, "smac0031" ha scritto:

> I use Firefox 17.0.7. [...]


> I have a DA G4 running 10.4.11.


Are you sure you're using Firefox? IIRC, it doesn't run on Tiger.

If you didn't already, you could try TenFourFox:
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
same code as Firefox,, but adapted to work on older Macs and OSX (thank you
a lot, Cameron! :-).


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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #99199 is a reply to message #98707] Wed, 24 July 2013 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry for the confusion.
I am running TenFourFox 17.07

On Monday, July 22, 2013 12:28:58 PM UTC-4, smac0031 wrote:
>

> I use Firefox 17.0.7. For the past couple of months Firefox quits all the

> time. I've steadily upgraded the thing but nothing changes. Sometimes I

> give up and try Safari again, but that quits too.

> I have a DA G4 running 10.4.11.

> Any suggestions, preferably none that cost money.

>

> Mark Murphy

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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #99217 is a reply to message #99199] Wed, 24 July 2013 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm running the last Safari and latest TenFourFox, using Tiger on a
Mystic, which is a similar environment to your setup. I could try
some sites your having issues with and see if I get similar results.
I too have been having some stalling and crashes with sites like
Facebook, Huffington Post, etc that are running Flash scripts in the
background. Like in the past, it will likely be the internet that
drives me to an upgrade rather than the hardware failing.

Frank

> Sorry for the confusion.

> I am running TenFourFox 17.07

>

> On Monday, July 22, 2013 12:28:58 PM UTC-4, smac0031 wrote:

>

> I use Firefox 17.0.7. For the past couple of months Firefox quits

> all the time. I've steadily upgraded the thing but nothing changes.

> Sometimes I give up and try Safari again, but that quits too.

> I have a DA G4 running 10.4.11.

> Any suggestions, preferably none that cost money.

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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #99237 is a reply to message #98707] Wed, 24 July 2013 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is usually where this starts.

These are the bunch of tabs I launch when I start checking news.

http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn
http://www.economist.com/
http://www.reuters.com/
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.drudgereport.com/
http://cnews.canoe.ca/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/
https://login.yahoo.com/
http://www.google.com/movies?near=49007&hl=en&ei=uts yT4D7NabO2AXHxNiwBw
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Kalamazoo+MI+49008:4:U S

These tabs all open and the trouble comes when I close some off and launch
things that pique my interest. It doesn't seem to make much difference how
many tabs are open but it slows the system down so I shut them down as fast
as possible and try to get to as few tabs as I can.

I try not to run videos. There is a flag in TenFourFox involving Flash, I
think and i turned that either on or off from the default position so it
can run Flash. There doesn't seem to be a problem when I go to youtube.
Videos from CNN or Fox run slowly and gum up everything, so I stay away
from those. The more this goes on the slower this Browser runs. It will
quit suddenly for no apparent reason.
Mark Murphy


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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #99238 is a reply to message #99237] Wed, 24 July 2013 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow! I can understand why things get bogged down.

Why don't you just create a "news" folder in the toolbar launch from their one at a time when you need them?

I wouldn't dream of opening a list like that on my 1.25 GHz G4 laptop or even my late '09 Intel Mac Mini...

JT in Austin



On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:49 AM, smac0031 wrote:

> This is usually where this starts.

>

> These are the bunch of tabs I launch when I start checking news.

>

> http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn

> http://www.economist.com/

> http://www.reuters.com/

> http://www.cnn.com/

> http://www.foxnews.com/

> http://www.drudgereport.com/

> http://cnews.canoe.ca/

> http://www.spiegel.de/international/

> https://login.yahoo.com/

> http://www.google.com/movies?near=49007&hl=en&ei=uts yT4D7NabO2AXHxNiwBw

> http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Kalamazoo+MI+49008:4:U S

>

> These tabs all open and the trouble comes when I close some off and launch things that pique my interest. It doesn't seem to make much difference how many tabs are open but it slows the system down so I shut them down as fast as possible and try to get to as few tabs as I can.

>

> I try not to run videos. There is a flag in TenFourFox involving Flash, I think and i turned that either on or off from the default position so it can run Flash. There doesn't seem to be a problem when I go to youtube. Videos from CNN or Fox run slowly and gum up everything, so I stay away from those. The more this goes on the slower this Browser runs. It will quit suddenly for no apparent reason.

> Mark Murphy

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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #99239 is a reply to message #98707] Wed, 24 July 2013 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I try not to run videos. There is a flag in TenFourFox involving Flash, I

> think and i turned that either on or off from the default position so it

> can run Flash. There doesn't seem to be a problem when I go to youtube.

> Videos from CNN or Fox run slowly and gum up everything, so I stay away

> from those. The more this goes on the slower this Browser runs. It will

> quit suddenly for no apparent reason.


I have to say for the record that enabling plugins in TenFourFox is an
unsupported configuration precisely because of the situation you state.

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Re: Browers that don't crash [message #99240 is a reply to message #99238] Wed, 24 July 2013 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 9:26 AM -0500 07/24/2013, James E. Therrault wrote:
> Wow! I can understand why things get bogged down. Why don't you

> just create a "news" folder in the toolbar launch from their one at

> a time when you need them? I wouldn't dream of opening a list like

> that on my 1.25 GHz G4 laptop or even my late '09 Intel Mac Mini...


I have a metabookmark list like that, 18 pages. Can't stand the
loading lags, so I first turn off JavaScript before letting them all
load. Takes the load time from quite a few minutes to less than 1.
(this is Safari+WebKit, on a QuickSilver 2002).

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Unresponsive script warning on Facebook [message #99295 is a reply to message #98707] Wed, 24 July 2013 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there an easy way to import bookmarks and passwords from Safari
into TenFourFox? Neither browser's "Help" offers much advice about
this topic.

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Importing Bookmarks/Passwords to TenFourFox [message #99296 is a reply to message #99295] Wed, 24 July 2013 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Disregard previous message. Solution found.

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Unresponsive script warning on Facebook [message #100264 is a reply to message #98707] Mon, 29 July 2013 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I picked up a G5 dual 2.0 PCI-x a couple of days ago. The hard drive
had been wiped, but it started right up to the flashing "?"

I stuck in a retail 10.3 disk and installed and then upgraded to
10.4.11. It ran for a day or so and even successfully started Classic.

Then, after a day of running properly, it won't launch. It does start
with the proper "Chime" but then shows only a blank screen for
several minutes before the fans gradually increase speed to max.

I have:

Reset NVRAM in Open Firmware: No change.

Reset PRAM; No change.

Installed new PRAM battery: No change.

I opened it up, wiped all the fans clean, blew out a bit of dust. No
change.

I am looking for ideas from anyone who has more experience with this
machine that I do.

I have taken apart and put into operation most other types of Macs,
from a 128 through DP Mirror Door, and a few PowerBooks, so I thought
I might be able to "save" this machine from the scrappers. HELP!

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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100265 is a reply to message #100264] Mon, 29 July 2013 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 29, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Ken Daggett wrote:

>

> I picked up a G5 dual 2.0 PCI-x a couple of days ago. The hard drive had been wiped, but it started right up to the flashing "?"

>

> I stuck in a retail 10.3 disk and installed and then upgraded to 10.4.11. It ran for a day or so and even successfully started Classic.

>

> Then, after a day of running properly, it won't launch. It does start with the proper "Chime" but then shows only a blank screen for several minutes before the fans gradually increase speed to max.

>

> I have:

>

> Reset NVRAM in Open Firmware: No change.

>

> Reset PRAM; No change.

>

> Installed new PRAM battery: No change.

>

> I opened it up, wiped all the fans clean, blew out a bit of dust. No change.

>

> I am looking for ideas from anyone who has more experience with this machine that I do.

>

> I have taken apart and put into operation most other types of Macs, from a 128 through DP Mirror Door, and a few PowerBooks, so I thought I might be able to "save" this machine from the scrappers. HELP!

>

> Ken

>

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Unplug all cables including AC, Press CUDA switch for ten seconds. If that doesn't help reseat the RAM.




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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100266 is a reply to message #100264] Mon, 29 July 2013 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 29, 2013 1:14 PM, "Ken Daggett" <kadaggett@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Then, after a day of running properly, it won't launch. It does start

with the proper "Chime" but then shows only a blank screen for several
minutes before the fans gradually increase speed to max.
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Have you tried another hard drive? I had a Mini that would spin its fans up
to max on powerup, but with a blank screen. It came back to life as soon as
the sketchy drive was disconnected.

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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100319 is a reply to message #100266] Mon, 29 July 2013 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:14:29 PDT, NODEraser wrote:

> Have you tried another hard drive? I had a Mini that would spin its

> fans up to max on powerup, but with a blank screen. It came back to

> life as soon as the sketchy drive was disconnected.

-----------
Haven't tried a new HD as I don't have any serial ATA drives on hand.
This the first machine (other than my wife's laptop) that uses these.
I was hoping to resurrect this machine with no significant $$ outlay.

I did as John Carmonne suggested (reset CUDA and reseat RAM) but
still no joy.

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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100320 is a reply to message #100264] Mon, 29 July 2013 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Ken Daggett wrote:

> I was hoping to resurrect this machine with no significant $$ outlay.

>

> I did as John Carmonne suggested (reset CUDA and reseat RAM) but still no joy.


These symptoms are similar to what happens with a partial power supply failure.

You might get a multimeter and carefully check out the voltages using this G5 pinout diagram.

As I remember, my G5 lost all the +3.3V when it failed, resulting in a black boot with runaway fans.

Power Supply P1 Connector
Pin# Signal Color ------ Pin# Signal Color
1 +5Vstb Purple --------- 13 GND Black
2 GND Black ------------- 14 Power ON Green
3 FANtach White/Yellow -- 15 GND Black
4 GND Black ------------- 16 Reserved
5 Reserved -------------- 17 GND Black
6 GND Black ------------- 18 RTNaud(GND) Black
7 +12Vaud (12V2) Yellow - 19 GND Black
8 GND Black ------------- 20 +5V sense Red
9 +3.3V sense Orange ---- 21 GND Black
10 GND Black ------------ 22 -12V Blue
11 GND Black ------------ 23 GND Black
12 Reserved ------------- 24 Reserved

Power Supply P2 Connector
Pin# Signal Color ------- Pin# Signal Color
1 +3.3V Orange ----------- 9 +5V Red
2 +3.3V Orange ---------- 10 +5V Red
3 +3.3V Orange ---------- 11 +5V Red
4 +3.3V Orange ---------- 12 +12V3 Yellow
5 Reserve --------------- 13 +12V3 Yellow
6 +12Vfan Yellow -------- 14 +12V1 Yellow
7 +12Vfan(12V2) Yellow -- 15 +12V1 Yellow
8 +25V White ------------ 16 RTNfan(GND) Black

Power Supply P3 Connector
Pin# Signal Color ------- Pin# Signal Color
1 +5V Red ---------------- 5 +5V Red
2 GND Black -------------- 6 GND Black
3 GND Black -------------- 7 GND Black
4 12V2 Yellow ------------ 8 +12V2 Yellow

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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100321 is a reply to message #100320] Mon, 29 July 2013 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

> On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Ken Daggett wrote:

>

>> I was hoping to resurrect this machine with no significant $$ outlay.

>>

>> I did as John Carmonne suggested (reset CUDA and reseat RAM) but still no joy.

>

> These symptoms are similar to what happens with a partial power supply failure.

>

> You might get a multimeter and carefully check out the voltages using this G5 pinout diagram.

>

> As I remember, my G5 lost all the +3.3V when it failed, resulting in a black boot with runaway fans.

>


Possibly reseat all connections on logic board? Including HDD.


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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100322 is a reply to message #100319] Mon, 29 July 2013 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Ken Daggett wrote:

>

> On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:14:29 PDT, NODEraser wrote:

>

>> Have you tried another hard drive? I had a Mini that would spin its fans up to max on powerup, but with a blank screen. It came back to life as soon as the sketchy drive was disconnected.

> -----------

> Haven't tried a new HD as I don't have any serial ATA drives on hand. This the first machine (other than my wife's laptop) that uses these. I was hoping to resurrect this machine with no significant $$ outlay.

>

> I did as John Carmonne suggested (reset CUDA and reseat RAM) but still no joy.



Try just disconnecting the HD. If it's the HD you should get the flashing question mark. If it does then stick in the boot DVD-ROM and see if it comes up okay.

Try pulling the PRAM battery. I don't know if the G5 will boot this way but it's worth a shot.

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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100368 is a reply to message #100322] Mon, 29 July 2013 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 7/29/13 7:20 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
>

> On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Ken Daggett wrote:

>

>>

>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 15:14:29 PDT, NODEraser wrote:

>>

>>> Have you tried another hard drive? I had a Mini that would spin its fans up to max on powerup, but with a blank screen. It came back to life as soon as the sketchy drive was disconnected.

>> -----------

>> Haven't tried a new HD as I don't have any serial ATA drives on hand. This the first machine (other than my wife's laptop) that uses these. I was hoping to resurrect this machine with no significant $$ outlay.

>>

>> I did as John Carmonne suggested (reset CUDA and reseat RAM) but still no joy.

>

>

> Try just disconnecting the HD. If it's the HD you should get the flashing question mark. If it does then stick in the boot DVD-ROM and see if it comes up okay.

>

> Try pulling the PRAM battery. I don't know if the G5 will boot this way but it's worth a shot.

>

Check the battery. Being in storage could have run down battery.

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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100369 is a reply to message #100264] Mon, 29 July 2013 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:

> Check the battery. Being in storage could have run down battery.


Yes, I 2nd this, excellent advise, and often a problem.

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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100370 is a reply to message #100369] Tue, 30 July 2013 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 29 Jul 2013, at 20:15:35 PDT, Kris Tilford wrote:

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>> Check the battery. Being in storage could have run down battery.

>

> Yes, I 2nd this, excellent advise, and often a problem.

----------------
Well, as I mentioned, I did install a new PRAM battery, though the
"old" one measured at 3.6v.

Status update: as suggested, I disconnected the HD and started. The
machine showed the flashing ?. Put in an OS 10.4 install disk.
Machine booted to the DVD. Shut down and reconnected the HD. Booted
to the DVD and called Disk Utility. Drive was visible but attempts to
"Repair" failed. I erased the HD, with "zero out" as the option.
Installed 10.4 and updated to 10.4.11. Seems to boot OK.

The HD may be "flaky" as suggested, but the rest of the machine seems
OK. I wasn't looking forward to probing the power supply pins as a
"failure" there would be $$ that I would rather put to a new machine.

If the rest of the machine is good, I will try finding a 2 or 3 Tb HD
and give it a home.

Thanks for the assist.

Ken

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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100457 is a reply to message #100369] Tue, 30 July 2013 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:

>

>> Check the battery. Being in storage could have run down battery.

>

> Yes, I 2nd this, excellent advise, and often a problem.

>

I have a G5 Dual 2.7 and it boots without a PRAM battery in it. Mine did the no boot and fan runway, in the end it turned out to be the logic board.
I spent a lot of time fighting this it would boot the "ASD 2.5.8" disc but not any install boot disc or HDD.


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G5/1.8 dual. I had just watched a youtube video via perian and was
opening iTunes when this happened [er exactly what happened?]

Interval Since Last Panic Report: 4611287 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 2
Anonymous UUID: 097DF688-CA60-40A7-BDA5-19EB616FA08B

Wed Jul 31 12:47:18 2013


Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x300 - Data access
DAR=0x0000000000000000 PC=0x00000000000B57E4
Latest crash info for cpu 1:
Exception state (sv=0x26d18500)
PC=0x000B57E4; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x40000000;
LR=0x00946A00; R1=0x1EB17910; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x0094696C 0x00946EA8 0x0092F9A8 0x0092D570 0x0071F928 0x0070D7E4
0x006F309C 0x006F902C 0x00CF1E98 0x00CF907C 0x00CF9194
0x0036011C 0x0003F2A0 0x000B1DD4
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.NVDAResmanPPC(5.4.8)@0x71e000->0x99efff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0x706000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e0000
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0x706000->0x71dfff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e0000
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e0000->0x705fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.5.5)@0xccc000->0xd17fff
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x26d18500)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x18a81000)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000;
LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
9L31a

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009;
root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC
System model name: PowerMac7,2

System uptime in nanoseconds: 5155995835282
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio 2.5.8f1 - last unloaded 3609790072
loaded kexts:
com.realtek.driver.RTL8192CU 1005
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2 - last loaded 812550276
com.apple.GeForcePPC 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.driver.AppleTopazAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleTAS3004Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleFCU 1.3.2b0
com.apple.driver.AppleFan 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleADT746x 1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Fan 1.0.10f1
com.apple.nvidia.nv30hal 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleCPUVoltage 1.5.2d0
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 1.7.7
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBDisplays 2.0.2
com.apple.driver.AppleVSP 2.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Driver 1.7.2f1
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Re: G5 Troubles [message #100893 is a reply to message #100457] Wed, 31 July 2013 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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On 29 Jul 2013, at 21:31:35 PDT, John Carmonne wrote:

> I have a G5 Dual 2.7 and it boots without a PRAM battery in it.

> Mine did the no boot and fan runway, in the end it turned out to be

> the logic board.

> I spent a lot of time fighting this it would boot the "ASD 2.5.8"

> disc but not any install boot disc or HDD.

--------------
I think I have chased the problem to a flaky HD. Zero'd it out and
installed 10.4. Booted from disk OK. Upgraded to 10.4.11, and it
booted OK again. Ran Software update a couple of times and after
second update it refuses to boot from the HD. Ran Disk Utility and
found several errors, including bad B-Tree. Repairs failed. I have
gone through this same cycle twice.

Looks like next step is to install a new HD and try again. (Fingers
crossed.)

Any suggestions on brand/type/size of SATA HD? There is a Fry's close
with more options than I can decipher.

Ken

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