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ST:TMP - Maybe not so bad [message #74955] Sun, 26 May 2013 21:15
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Date: Mon, 25-Jun-84 17:44:40 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jun 25 17:44:40 1984
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Anyway, I knew there had to be someone else out there who liked ST:TMP besides
me, I must admit when I saw it the first time I was simply awestruck...I really
thought it was great, but then I felt guilty for liking it when all the critics
said it was so awful...(the critics didn't like 2001 when it came out, either)
Has anyone seen the "special extended version" of ST:TMP??  I got the tape of
it, and it really improves the picture...(characters and continuity...all that)
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	I can offer you some comfort. I can't say I think ST:TMP is great,
but I do agree that the critics were much too hard on it (and much too
kind to ST:TWOK, incidentally). The opening scene with the Klingons is
quite riveting, and the SFX work on V'ger toward the end of the film
was absolutely incredible. It transcended the mere believability that
most SFX aim for, and was a thing of great artistic beauty. I also give
ST:TMP points for aiming higher than the two more recent ST films. Its
cosmic plot continued the tradition of the series, "to boldly go where
no man has gone before." The last two films have been more prosaic,
concentrating on familiar features of the Star Trek universe, like Spock,
Klingons, and Khan.

	I also recently acquired a tape of ST:TMP with the extra footage
restored, and I agree it improves things. Without this footage, baldy's
reference to her celibacy oath only made sense to those who had read
the book. The added footage generally made the plot clearer, as well
as giving us a longer look at some of the SFX.

	I guess I would rate ST:TMP slightly lower than ST:TWOK, overall,
but only slightly. I liked both pictures, but I was also disappointed
by them. I was really bothered by Khan in ST:TWOK. In "Space Seed" he
was quite a classy villain, intelligent and cultured; in ST:TWOK he seemed
so irrationally possessed by his hatred for Kirk that he lost all charm,
and no longer acted intelligently enough to be a worthy opponent. Did
he cripple the Enterprise by cleverness? No. Instead we have Kirk stupidly
neglecting to raise his shields when he's already been warned something
is amiss with the Reliant. And at every turn we see Kirk's bacon saved
by more obsessive silliness from Khan. It made me think one of Khan's little
pets got into *his* ear one night, and ate most of his brains.
	As I have only seen ST:TSFS once, I am still making up my mind
about it. I guess the bottom line is that the Trek movie *I* want to
see hasn't been made yet. As far as I'm concerned, none of the films
even comes close to equalling "City on the Edge of Forever".

                                                Kenn Barry
                                                NASA-Ames Research Center
                                                Moffett Field, CA
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