| Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action Akira? [message #4945] |
Sat, 11 February 2012 00:24  |
Antonio E. Gonzalez
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I'll admit I haven't seen either one (yes, I haven't seen Akira
yet; you may pick up your jaws), but this review points to a lot of
similarities between the two:
This paragraph in particular has an interesting theory:
"Why did Warner Brothers suddenly decide to close shop on their AKIRA
live-action movie? I can't be certain, but I'd like to think that
this screened for the top brass and when it was done, someone shook
their head and said, "Shut it down, boys." Sure, AKIRA's far larger
in scale than this, but CHRONICLE gets the essentials right - a power
barely contained, a friendship tested, and a young man, bullied all
his life, who goes out of control with his newfound ability and how
his friends try to stop him. Since it's told in the "found footage"
medium, there is a slight distancing effect, especially in some of the
crazier scenes, because you're wondering who in the hell would be
working a camera at that moment, but then the movie has a breakthrough
and explains perfectly why the filmmakers made it this way."
So, Akira can't really be remade, even by modern Japan. Chronicle
may be as close as we come to live-action Akira, and perhaps as close
as we *should* come to live-action Akira.
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| Re: Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action Akira? [message #4947 is a reply to message #4945] |
Sat, 11 February 2012 07:17  |
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"Antonio E. Gonzalez" wrote in message
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I'll admit I haven't seen either one (yes, I haven't seen Akira
yet; you may pick up your jaws), but this review points to a lot of
similarities between the two:
This paragraph in particular has an interesting theory:
"Why did Warner Brothers suddenly decide to close shop on their AKIRA
live-action movie? I can't be certain, but I'd like to think that
this screened for the top brass and when it was done, someone shook
their head and said, "Shut it down, boys." Sure, AKIRA's far larger
in scale than this, but CHRONICLE gets the essentials right - a power
barely contained, a friendship tested, and a young man, bullied all
his life, who goes out of control with his newfound ability and how
his friends try to stop him. Since it's told in the "found footage"
medium, there is a slight distancing effect, especially in some of the
crazier scenes, because you're wondering who in the hell would be
working a camera at that moment, but then the movie has a breakthrough
and explains perfectly why the filmmakers made it this way."
So, Akira can't really be remade, even by modern Japan. Chronicle
may be as close as we come to live-action Akira, and perhaps as close
as we *should* come to live-action Akira.
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I can't agree. I didn't think Watchmen could be made into a live action
film, but it worked (at least for me). I couldn't imagine anyone making a
remake of a John Wayne film, but the new take on True Grit was a hit (and
now I'm waiting on the remake of The Cowboys with Charlie Sheen in the John
Wayne role, Samuel L Jackson as the cook, and just to put in some real life
tension, Ashton Kutcher in the Bruce Dern role as leader of the rustlers).
Didn't think The Lord of the Rings would ever been made into films, and I'm
having my doubts about The Hobbit currently in production.
But all it takes is a producer and director that respect the source material
and block any attempts to give it the 'Hollywood Treatment'. I don't
expect we'll ever see a live action Akira, but it's always possible.
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| Re: Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action Akira? [message #4949 is a reply to message #4945] |
Sat, 11 February 2012 08:34 |
nick
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On Feb 11, 12:24 am, Antonio E. Gonzalez wrote:
> I'll admit I haven't seen either one (yes, I haven't seen Akira
> yet; you may pick up your jaws), but this review points to a lot of
> similarities between the two:
>
>
>
> This paragraph in particular has an interesting theory:
>
> "Why did Warner Brothers suddenly decide to close shop on their AKIRA
> live-action movie? I can't be certain, but I'd like to think that
> this screened for the top brass and when it was done, someone shook
> their head and said, "Shut it down, boys." Sure, AKIRA's far larger
> in scale than this, but CHRONICLE gets the essentials right - a power
> barely contained, a friendship tested, and a young man, bullied all
> his life, who goes out of control with his newfound ability and how
> his friends try to stop him. Since it's told in the "found footage"
> medium, there is a slight distancing effect, especially in some of the
> crazier scenes, because you're wondering who in the hell would be
> working a camera at that moment, but then the movie has a breakthrough
> and explains perfectly why the filmmakers made it this way."
>
> So, Akira can't really be remade, even by modern Japan. Chronicle
> may be as close as we come to live-action Akira, and perhaps as close
> as we *should* come to live-action Akira.
Don't they have this backwards? If Chronicle had been a disasterous
embarrassing flop, that might have stopped an Akira project, but since
Chronicle is a success, wouldn't that inspire studios to jump on its
bandwagon?
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| Re: Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action Akira? [message #4950 is a reply to message #4949] |
Sat, 11 February 2012 09:54 |
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:34:45 -0800 (PST), nick
wrote:
>Don't they have this backwards? If Chronicle had been a disasterous
>embarrassing flop, that might have stopped an Akira project, but since
>Chronicle is a success, wouldn't that inspire studios to jump on its
>bandwagon?
That runs the risk of people saying a live-action Akira is "just a
ripoff of Chronicle"...
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| Re: Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action Akira? [message #4951 is a reply to message #4945] |
Sat, 11 February 2012 10:37 |
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On Feb 11, 12:24 am, Antonio E. Gonzalez wrote:
> I'll admit I haven't seen either one (yes, I haven't seen Akira
> yet; you may pick up your jaws), but this review points to a lot of
> similarities between the two:
>
>
>
> This paragraph in particular has an interesting theory:
>
> "Why did Warner Brothers suddenly decide to close shop on their AKIRA
> live-action movie? I can't be certain, but I'd like to think that
> this screened for the top brass and when it was done, someone shook
> their head and said, "Shut it down, boys." Sure, AKIRA's far larger
> in scale than this, but CHRONICLE gets the essentials right - a power
> barely contained, a friendship tested, and a young man, bullied all
> his life, who goes out of control with his newfound ability and how
> his friends try to stop him. Since it's told in the "found footage"
> medium, there is a slight distancing effect, especially in some of the
> crazier scenes, because you're wondering who in the hell would be
> working a camera at that moment, but then the movie has a breakthrough
> and explains perfectly why the filmmakers made it this way."
>
> So, Akira can't really be remade, even by modern Japan. Chronicle
> may be as close as we come to live-action Akira, and perhaps as close
> as we *should* come to live-action Akira.
I saw both, and, though CHRONICLE reminded me (favorably) of several
flicks, AKIRA wasn't among them. I doubt many will find either to be
the other's deja vu all over again.
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| Re: Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action Akira? [message #4953 is a reply to message #4950] |
Sat, 11 February 2012 20:13 |
Travers Naran
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On 11/02/2012 6:54 AM, Rob Kelk wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:34:45 -0800 (PST), nick
> wrote:
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>> Don't they have this backwards? If Chronicle had been a disasterous
>> embarrassing flop, that might have stopped an Akira project, but since
>> Chronicle is a success, wouldn't that inspire studios to jump on its
>> bandwagon?
>
> That runs the risk of people saying a live-action Akira is "just a
> ripoff of Chronicle"...
That has never stopped a Hollywood studio before.
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| Weeing Akira (Was Re: Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action [message #5004 is a reply to message #4951] |
Mon, 13 February 2012 13:58 |
Bill Steele
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> (yes, I haven't seen Akira
>> yet; you may pick up your jaws)
I haven't either. A friend gave me the DVD for Christmas, but it
wouldn't play the Japanese soundtrack. Sent it back to the company and
the replacement wouldn't either. Turns out it's encoded in some oddball
format that lasted about a month that no DVD player I've tried yet can
read.
Any hints on how to get it to work?
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| Re: Weeing Akira (Was Re: Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action [message #5005 is a reply to message #5004] |
Mon, 13 February 2012 16:09 |
dbbrndll
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On 2/13/2012 11:58 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
>> (yes, I haven't seen Akira
>>> yet; you may pick up your jaws)
>
> I haven't either. A friend gave me the DVD for Christmas, but it
> wouldn't play the Japanese soundtrack. Sent it back to the company and
> the replacement wouldn't either. Turns out it's encoded in some oddball
> format that lasted about a month that no DVD player I've tried yet can
> read.
>
> Any hints on how to get it to work?
Maybe try playback from a computer? If that isn't inconvenient for your
viewing, that may be your best bet.
But, depending on the format, you should check the computer software for
compatibility first. Just sayin'.
I know my DVD-RAM disks that I make on my combo VCR/DVD recorder won't
play on most DVD or blu ray player-only units, but will on my computer.
( I like DVD-RAM for sneaker-net transfers of VCR and camcorder tapes. )
So anyway, you might do some checking first.
Hope that helps.
DBB
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| Re: Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action Akira? [message #5154 is a reply to message #4945] |
Thu, 16 February 2012 18:57 |
Ken from Chicago
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"Antonio E. Gonzalez" wrote in message
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> I'll admit I haven't seen either one (yes, I haven't seen Akira
> yet; you may pick up your jaws), but this review points to a lot of
> similarities between the two:
>
>
>
> This paragraph in particular has an interesting theory:
>
> "Why did Warner Brothers suddenly decide to close shop on their AKIRA
> live-action movie? I can't be certain, but I'd like to think that
> this screened for the top brass and when it was done, someone shook
> their head and said, "Shut it down, boys." Sure, AKIRA's far larger
> in scale than this, but CHRONICLE gets the essentials right - a power
> barely contained, a friendship tested, and a young man, bullied all
> his life, who goes out of control with his newfound ability and how
> his friends try to stop him. Since it's told in the "found footage"
> medium, there is a slight distancing effect, especially in some of the
> crazier scenes, because you're wondering who in the hell would be
> working a camera at that moment, but then the movie has a breakthrough
> and explains perfectly why the filmmakers made it this way."
>
> So, Akira can't really be remade, even by modern Japan. Chronicle
> may be as close as we come to live-action Akira, and perhaps as close
> as we *should* come to live-action Akira.
Ironically the awesomeness of CHRONICLE would almost guarantee the making of
similarly theme Americanized AKIRA.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DuelingMovies
-- Ken from Chicago
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Fri, 17 February 2012 02:37 |
Ken from Chicago
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"Travers Naran" wrote in message
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> On 11/02/2012 6:54 AM, Rob Kelk wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:34:45 -0800 (PST), nick
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Don't they have this backwards? If Chronicle had been a disasterous
>>> embarrassing flop, that might have stopped an Akira project, but since
>>> Chronicle is a success, wouldn't that inspire studios to jump on its
>>> bandwagon?
>>
>> That runs the risk of people saying a live-action Akira is "just a
>> ripoff of Chronicle"...
>
> That has never stopped a Hollywood studio before.
Exactly. Usually it's just the opposite. If someone else is making a
similarly themed movie, that seems almost proof that said movie is worth
doing.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DuelingMovies
-- Ken from Chicago
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| Re: Seeing Akira (Was Re: Chronicle - The Reason WB Cancelled Live-Action Akira? [message #5951 is a reply to message #5004] |
Wed, 22 February 2012 13:45 |
Paul Pietromonaco
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"Bill Steele" wrote in message
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>> (yes, I haven't seen Akira
>>> yet; you may pick up your jaws)
>
> I haven't either. A friend gave me the DVD for Christmas, but it wouldn't
> play the Japanese soundtrack. Sent it back to the company and the
> replacement wouldn't either. Turns out it's encoded in some oddball
> format that lasted about a month that no DVD player I've tried yet can
> read.
>
> Any hints on how to get it to work?
Which version is it? Is it - perhaps - the (older) Pioneer release with the
banner "New Japanese 5.1 dts version" at the bottom of the slipcase? If so,
those were designed for external, home theater decoders. Many newer DVD
players can decode DTS internally now - but you might have to enable it in
their configuration panels. I think computer software playback can decode
DTS too, but I'd have to double-check that.
Also - there were Pioneer DVD releases that were straight Dolby Digital -
see here for instance:
http://www.amazon.com/Akira-Geneon-Signature-Nozomu-Sasaki/d p/B00012QLQ4
There is also a newly released version - apparently from Bandai - but I
don't know anything else about it:
http://www.amazon.com/Akira-Katsuhiro-Otomo/dp/B006O94DJ0/
NOTE: I'm not sponsoring Amazon per se - just using it to show the cover
art, release number etc.
Cheers,
Paul
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