| Proposed Usenet newsgroup about the Raspberry Pi [message #42206] |
Mon, 11 March 2013 06:32  |
James Harris
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I have submitted a formal proposal for a new Usenet newsgroup focussed
on the Raspberry Pi (for info on which see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi).
The decision as to whether the group gets created or not depends
largely on interest. If you would like to see the group set up (or
even if you don't want it to be set up!) you might want to add a
comment to the proposal.
For the proposal see
https://groups.google.com/group/news.groups.proposals/browse _frm/thread/65db53c18168e557
or see newsgroup
news.groups.proposals
under the topic
RFD: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
If you would use the new group please add a comment to say whether you
would expect only to read the group or also to post to it. Only a word
or two are needed. As a guide, some comments are there already.
Apart from whether the group should be created or not various aspects
of the proposal can be discussed. Feel free to join in the discussion
if you wish to do so.
Bear in mind that news.groups.proposals is moderated so your posts may
take a few hours to appear.
There are links in the proposal to the Big 8 Management Board
processes and further background info.
This message has been crossposted.
James
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| New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi (was: Proposed Usenet newsgroup about the Raspberry Pi) [message #46817 is a reply to message #42206] |
Thu, 04 April 2013 04:50  |
James Harris
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On Mar 11, 11:32 am, James Harris <james.harri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> RFD: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
The new newsgroup has been created, named as above.
I am not sure yet how many Usenet providers are already carrying the
group but it has been receiving posts for a couple of days and is
working normally.
Google does not have it available yet - reputedly they always take a
while - but I am told that many providers add Big-8 groups like this
one automatically when they receive a control message. So hopefully
most people can see it. Feedback on which providers carry the group
and which do not would be welcome.
James
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi (was: Proposed Usenet newsgroup about the Raspberry Pi) [message #46819 is a reply to message #46817] |
Thu, 04 April 2013 05:48 |
Chris F.A. Johnson
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On 2013-04-04, James Harris wrote:
> On Mar 11, 11:32 am, James Harris <james.harri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> ...
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>> RFD: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
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> The new newsgroup has been created, named as above.
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> I am not sure yet how many Usenet providers are already carrying the
> group but it has been receiving posts for a couple of days and is
> working normally.
>
> Google does not have it available yet - reputedly they always take a
> while - but I am told that many providers add Big-8 groups like this
> one automatically when they receive a control message. So hopefully
> most people can see it. Feedback on which providers carry the group
> and which do not would be welcome.
I see it on news.eternal-september.org
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #46820 is a reply to message #46817] |
Thu, 04 April 2013 05:49 |
cl
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James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 11, 11:32 am, James Harris <james.harri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> ...
>
>> RFD: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
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> The new newsgroup has been created, named as above.
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> I am not sure yet how many Usenet providers are already carrying the
> group but it has been receiving posts for a couple of days and is
> working normally.
>
Well I can certainly see it, I guess I'm getting it from
News.Individual.NET but as I run leafnode using several sources it's
difficult to be sure.
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #46836 is a reply to message #46820] |
Thu, 04 April 2013 06:58 |
rob[1][2]
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On 04/04/2013 10:49, cl@isbd.net wrote:
> James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 11, 11:32 am, James Harris <james.harri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> ...
>>
>>> RFD: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
>>
>> The new newsgroup has been created, named as above.
>>
>> I am not sure yet how many Usenet providers are already carrying the
>> group but it has been receiving posts for a couple of days and is
>> working normally.
>>
> Well I can certainly see it, I guess I'm getting it from
> News.Individual.NET but as I run leafnode using several sources it's
> difficult to be sure.
>
I can confirm that it is indeed available from news.individual.net
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #46838 is a reply to message #46837] |
Thu, 04 April 2013 08:32 |
J. Vernet
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Le 04/04/2013 13:36, A2CPM a écrit :
> Hi!
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> On Apr 4, 6:58 am, Rob wrote:
>> I can confirm that it is indeed available from news.individual.net
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> I'm accessing it via Google.
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> BTW, I looked on Asimov for an image for my RasPi that has some
> kind of A2 emulator. No joy...
LinApple work on RPI. You can also search for ChameleonPi
JV
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #46839 is a reply to message #46820] |
Thu, 04 April 2013 06:23 |
Mike Tomlinson
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In article <guuv2a-6qh.ln1@chris.zbmc.eu>, cl@isbd.net writes
> Well I can certainly see it, I guess I'm getting it from
> News.Individual.NET but as I run leafnode using several sources it's
> difficult to be sure.
The Path: line in a message header will tell you. Here's the header
for your post just prior to this, which was posted via individual.net
(last but one entry) and which I fetched from ES (first entry).
Path: eternal-september.org!mx05.eternal-september.org!feeder.eter nal-
september.org!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news-1.dfn. de!news.dfn.
de!news.informatik.hu-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-
berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi (was: Proposed Usenet newsgroup about the Raspberry Pi) [message #47251 is a reply to message #46868] |
Sat, 06 April 2013 04:51 |
James Harris
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On Apr 4, 2:54 pm, Philip Herlihy <bounceb...@you.com> wrote:
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>> Feedback on which providers carry the group
>> and which do not would be welcome.
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> Not visible on the Demon newsserver.
Thanks for this and similar feedback. Over the past few days various
Usenet providers have added the group. Some did so automatically and
some needed to be asked by their customers. For anyone who still does
not have access the key seems to be asking your provider. Many
providers have added it very quickly.
For anyone whose provider is slow to add it there are at least three
free services that you can use to access the group: eternal-
september.org, Google Groups, and aioe.org.
James
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi (was: Proposed Usenet newsgroup about the Raspberry Pi) [message #47252 is a reply to message #47251] |
Sat, 06 April 2013 05:12 |
Kevin
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On Saturday, April 6, 2013 3:51:54 AM UTC-5, James Harris wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2:54 pm, Philip Herlihy <bounceb...@you.com> wrote:
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> ...
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>>> Feedback on which providers carry the group
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>>> and which do not would be welcome.
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>> Not visible on the Demon newsserver.
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> Thanks for this and similar feedback. Over the past few days various
>
> Usenet providers have added the group. Some did so automatically and
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> some needed to be asked by their customers. For anyone who still does
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> not have access the key seems to be asking your provider. Many
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> providers have added it very quickly.
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> For anyone whose provider is slow to add it there are at least three
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> free services that you can use to access the group: eternal-
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> september.org, Google Groups, and aioe.org.
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> James
I find it amusing its taken less time to ratify this group than it has for me to get my already paid for pi
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi (was: Proposed Usenet newsgroup about the Raspberry Pi) [message #47257 is a reply to message #47253] |
Sat, 06 April 2013 11:21 |
Michael Black
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Steve Nickolas wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, osgeld wrote:
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>> I find it amusing its taken less time to ratify this group than it has for
>> me to get my already paid for pi
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> I lol'd. Isn't it like the first new non-alt.* newsgroup in like over a
> decade or something?
>
No, plenty of new newsgroups have been created in the past decade. At
some point, I'm not sure of the exact date, they changed the process, so
it's a ocmmittee that decides, no voting, no need to get votes. You do
have to "prove" (it seems a fairly vague process) that there is a need for
such a newsgroup, people who make the effort to go to the proper newsgroup
and say they'd use it. Unless the RFD has faults, the process actually
happens pretty fast, either creating the newsgroup or rejecting it.
At the same time, the committee has been going through the existing
newsgroups, culling out the ones that havent' seen use in a long time.
Michael
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #47258 is a reply to message #47256] |
Sat, 06 April 2013 12:08 |
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 14:17:48 +0100, Theo Markettos wrote:
> In uk.comp.os.linux Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 12:00:30 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
>> <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
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>>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:54:10 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:
>>>> Not visible on the Demon newsserver.
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>>> Or on UKFSN and Entanet
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>> Nor on Virgin Media. :-(
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> Virgin and Demon's server is operated by Highwinds, I don't know about
> the other two. You can ask them to add it.
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I've sent requests to UKFSN and Entanet.
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #47259 is a reply to message #47258] |
Sat, 06 April 2013 12:53 |
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 16:08:45 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 14:17:48 +0100, Theo Markettos wrote:
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>> In uk.comp.os.linux Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 12:00:30 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
>>> <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:54:10 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:
>>>> > Not visible on the Demon newsserver.
>>>> >
>>>> Or on UKFSN and Entanet
>>>
>>> Nor on Virgin Media. :-(
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>> Virgin and Demon's server is operated by Highwinds, I don't know about
>> the other two. You can ask them to add it.
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> I've sent requests to UKFSN and Entanet.
>
>
It's on individual.net
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #47271 is a reply to message #46837] |
Sat, 06 April 2013 17:16 |
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On 4/4/2013 7:36 AM, A2CPM wrote:
> Hi!
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> On Apr 4, 6:58 am, Rob wrote:
>> I can confirm that it is indeed available from news.individual.net
>
> I'm accessing it via Google.
>
> BTW, I looked on Asimov for an image for my RasPi that has some
> kind of A2 emulator. No joy...
I am reading it using eternal.september.
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi (was: Proposed Usenet newsgroup about the Raspberry Pi) [message #48088 is a reply to message #47255] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 09:54 |
Johny B Good
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 13:38:20 +0100, Johny B Good
<johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 12:00:30 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
> <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
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>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:54:10 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:
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>>> In article <18c82971-526d-466c-8e1f-f16f49e4a461
>>> @gb2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, james.harris.1@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 11:32 am, James Harris <james.harri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> > RFD: comp.sys.raspberry-pi
>>>>
>>> ...
>>>> Feedback on which providers carry the group and which do not would be
>>>> welcome.
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>
>>> Not visible on the Demon newsserver.
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>> Or on UKFSN and Entanet
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> Nor on Virgin Media. :-(
Until now, that is!
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #48091 is a reply to message #48090] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 10:49 |
Steve
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On Apr 10, 7:02 am, Philip Herlihy <bounceb...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <51654667.90316...@news.demon.co.uk>, stephen...@mpeforth.com
> says...
>
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>> On 06 Apr 2013 14:17:48 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos
>> <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
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>>> Virgin and Demon's server is operated by Highwinds, I don't know about the
>>> other two. You can ask them to add it.
>
>> After asking Demon,
>> comp.sys.raspberry-pi
>> is now available.
>
>> Stephen
>
> Really? I asked Demon (normally very helpful) to add
> alt.comp.os.windows-8 repeatedly, with requests just going into a black
> hole. How did you request this?
>
> --
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> Phil, London
Broadcom, and anything to do with their their employee operated
raspberry pi marketing campaign/foundation have a lot of influence.
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #48092 is a reply to message #48091] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 11:04 |
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On 10/04/2013 15:49, Steve wrote:
> On Apr 10, 7:02 am, Philip Herlihy <bounceb...@you.com> wrote:
>> In article <51654667.90316...@news.demon.co.uk>, stephen...@mpeforth.com
>> says...
>>
>>
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>>> On 06 Apr 2013 14:17:48 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos
>>> <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
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>>>> Virgin and Demon's server is operated by Highwinds, I don't know about the
>>>> other two. You can ask them to add it.
>>
>>> After asking Demon,
>>> comp.sys.raspberry-pi
>>> is now available.
>>
>>> Stephen
>>
>> Really? I asked Demon (normally very helpful) to add
>> alt.comp.os.windows-8 repeatedly, with requests just going into a black
>> hole. How did you request this?
>>
>>
>> Phil, London
>
> Broadcom, and anything to do with their their employee operated
> raspberry pi marketing campaign/foundation have a lot of influence.
I'd say it's more to do with comp.* being part of the Big 8 usenet
hierarchies. Than any kind of all-powerful lobby.
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #48163 is a reply to message #48090] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 12:49 |
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On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:02:31 +0100, Philip Herlihy
<bounceback@you.com> wrote:
> Really? I asked Demon (normally very helpful) to add
> alt.comp.os.windows-8 repeatedly, with requests just going into a black
> hole. How did you request this?
I sent an email to helpdesk@demon.net asking them to add it. It took a
bit longer than the advertised 24 hours, but it's here now.
> Please can you add the follwowing new newsgroup to your Usenet
> news group servers and let me know when it will be available.
>
> comp.sys.raspberry-pi
>
> Regards, Stephen
That's all!
Stephen
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #48168 is a reply to message #48163] |
Wed, 10 April 2013 14:23 |
Philip Herlihy
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In article <516579a8.103437149@news.demon.co.uk>,
stephenXXX@mpeforth.com says...
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> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:02:31 +0100, Philip Herlihy
> <bounceback@you.com> wrote:
>
>> Really? I asked Demon (normally very helpful) to add
>> alt.comp.os.windows-8 repeatedly, with requests just going into a black
>> hole. How did you request this?
>
> I sent an email to helpdesk@demon.net asking them to add it. It took a
> bit longer than the advertised 24 hours, but it's here now.
>
>> Please can you add the follwowing new newsgroup to your Usenet
>> news group servers and let me know when it will be available.
>>
>> comp.sys.raspberry-pi
>>
>> Regards, Stephen
>
> That's all!
>
> Stephen
That's worth a try. I had real trouble getting the first-line agents to
understand what a newsgroup was, and they are normally pretty good.
This is the only beef I have with Demon.
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #48383 is a reply to message #48168] |
Thu, 11 April 2013 10:56 |
Philip Herlihy
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In article <MPG.2bcfbe5c7a4153998990d@news.demon.co.uk>,
bounceback@you.com says...
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> In article <516579a8.103437149@news.demon.co.uk>,
> stephenXXX@mpeforth.com says...
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:02:31 +0100, Philip Herlihy
>> <bounceback@you.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Really? I asked Demon (normally very helpful) to add
>>> alt.comp.os.windows-8 repeatedly, with requests just going into a black
>>> hole. How did you request this?
>>
>> I sent an email to helpdesk@demon.net asking them to add it. It took a
>> bit longer than the advertised 24 hours, but it's here now.
>>
>>> Please can you add the follwowing new newsgroup to your Usenet
>>> news group servers and let me know when it will be available.
>>>
>>> comp.sys.raspberry-pi
>>>
>>> Regards, Stephen
>>
>> That's all!
>>
>> Stephen
>
> That's worth a try. I had real trouble getting the first-line agents to
> understand what a newsgroup was, and they are normally pretty good.
> This is the only beef I have with Demon.
Emailed them shortly after posting this, and received a phonecall this
morning to tell me the group had been added. I can't see it yet, so
maybe it's a propogation thing, or someone's mistyped, but once again
I'm 100% (ok: 99.9% for now) happy with Demon.
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #48384 is a reply to message #48383] |
Thu, 11 April 2013 11:17 |
stephenXXX
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:56:57 +0100, Philip Herlihy
<bounceback@you.com> wrote:
> I can't see it yet, so
> maybe it's a propogation thing, or someone's mistyped, but once again
> I'm 100% (ok: 99.9% for now) happy with Demon.
It took a day or so to get from Highwinds to Demon.
I can't tell you how many times we have nearly left Demon in
the last 20 years. Perhaps their new owners will let them get
their act together.
Stephen
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MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #48499 is a reply to message #48496] |
Thu, 11 April 2013 22:12 |
Bill Buckels
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"Paul" <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> wrote:
> Thats why I left them 12 years or so ago...
I still fail to see what all this off-topic spam has to do with the Apple
II. This initial off-topic cross-post by this Harris person doesn't seem to
be letting-up.
I think as a consequence of what has happened here, he should at least be
monitoring his thread and sending private mail to his fans asking them to
stop already!
Has anyone else had the same thoughts?
Bill
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| Re: New Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.raspberry-pi [message #48513 is a reply to message #48384] |
Fri, 12 April 2013 08:58 |
Philip Herlihy
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In article <5166d34d.46567530@news.demon.co.uk>, stephenXXX@mpeforth.com
says...
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:56:57 +0100, Philip Herlihy
> <bounceback@you.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't see it yet, so
>> maybe it's a propogation thing, or someone's mistyped, but once again
>> I'm 100% (ok: 99.9% for now) happy with Demon.
>
> It took a day or so to get from Highwinds to Demon.
>
> I can't tell you how many times we have nearly left Demon in
> the last 20 years. Perhaps their new owners will let them get
> their act together.
>
> Stephen
Experiences do vary, but I deal with a lot of ISPs on behalf of
customers, and I'm surprised how good Demon are, at every contact. I
wouldn't consider moving - not least for the superb spam filtering.
Companies do change. I used to hate O2 with such a vengance that my
hackles would rise when that gravelly voice came on the telly in an
advert. They they were taken over by Telephonica, and (again) I've been
surprised by how helpful they have been ever since. Wouldn't change.
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