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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411859 is a reply to message #411848] Wed, 13 October 2021 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry Vaderchi is currently offline  Harry Vaderchi
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:17:21 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
>> 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> wrote:
>>> On 10/12/21 12:23 PM, D.J. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lots of male egos around. I once used a 'non-standard' quote
>>>> symbol. My use of it is still out there.
>>>
>>> For this sacrelige, thou shouldst be beaten to the uttermost with
>>> a sock full of moo poo for thine wicked word woo.
>>>
>>> And that non-standard quote symbol can be exhumed and burned
>>> thrice at the stake!
>>>
>>> Thus adjudicateth the Ubernummer.
>>>
>>
>> Most of us aren’t out to “getâ€_ people. Egregiously annoying
>> posters are usually gently corrected. This newsgroup is fir
>> discussion of computer history and folklore, with frequent
>> digressions. So far all I’ve seen from you is whining about how
>> you’re being treated. Have you actually posted on-topic? If so, it
>> must have gotten buried in all the noise, I seem to have missed it.
>
> The problem is that someone cross-posted to both afc and sci.crypt,
> which is where the oddballs seem to hang out. I removed the cross
> post to sci.crypt from this post.

Very wise.
Mr 'Spooky Mart' seems to also post as Brankomir? something;
he/it/she clearly knows of computing of yesteryear, but seems a bit
feisty, and is pretending? not to know of Usenet conventions.


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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411863 is a reply to message #411453] Wed, 13 October 2021 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Salamon is currently offline  Wayne Salamon
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On 2021-10-01, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> From the ISP perspective, it is a simple matter to monitor number of
> users signing up vs. number of users using "the web" and number of
> users using "Usenet". They all likely had logs and stats showing
> something like 99% of new users never touch Usenet and something like
> 98% of existing users never touch Usenet and so after some time, they
> decided to drop Usenet because it was a direct cost to them, but
> clearly not a reason why all those users were paying them for access.

My previous ISP provided a feed as well as remote login to their servers,
so I would read Usenet on their system because that was faster than reading
over dial-up or DSL. One day news stopped working, so I waited a few days and
called them. The tech put me on hold for a bit, then came back and said
"We stopped the news feed, as there was only one user; you." I was supposed
to get a warning email but didn't. Any way, I switched to Eternal September.

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411866 is a reply to message #411863] Wed, 13 October 2021 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: ant

Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
> On 2021-10-01, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> From the ISP perspective, it is a simple matter to monitor number of
>> users signing up vs. number of users using "the web" and number of
>> users using "Usenet". They all likely had logs and stats showing
>> something like 99% of new users never touch Usenet and something like
>> 98% of existing users never touch Usenet and so after some time, they
>> decided to drop Usenet because it was a direct cost to them, but
>> clearly not a reason why all those users were paying them for access.

> My previous ISP provided a feed as well as remote login to their servers,
> so I would read Usenet on their system because that was faster than reading
> over dial-up or DSL. One day news stopped working, so I waited a few days and
> called them. The tech put me on hold for a bit, then came back and said
> "We stopped the news feed, as there was only one user; you." I was supposed
> to get a warning email but didn't. Any way, I switched to Eternal September.

Same with MM Internet. Was that your ISP too?
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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411874 is a reply to message #411866] Thu, 14 October 2021 05:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Salamon is currently offline  Wayne Salamon
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On 2021-10-13, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
>
>> My previous ISP provided a feed as well as remote login to their servers,
>> so I would read Usenet on their system because that was faster than reading
>> over dial-up or DSL. One day news stopped working, so I waited a few days and
>> called them. The tech put me on hold for a bit, then came back and said
>> "We stopped the news feed, as there was only one user; you." I was supposed
>> to get a warning email but didn't. Any way, I switched to Eternal September.
>
> Same with MM Internet. Was that your ISP too?

No, Xecunet. They were great, still in business but don't do home users anymore.
I used them for dial-up starting in the mid-90s, then DSL later on. When the
DSL switch happened, I didn't want to wait for the DSL box in the mail, so I
called and asked whether I could pick it up from their office. The reply was
"Sure, if it's after 5:00 PM just come around back and knock on the door."

Every call to them was handled by a tech who knew what they were doing. A bit
refreshing to talk to someone who understood traceroute, unlike the most of the
support staff at the DSL circuit provider.

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411876 is a reply to message #411874] Thu, 14 October 2021 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Maus

On 2021-10-14, Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
> On 2021-10-13, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My previous ISP provided a feed as well as remote login to their servers,
>>> so I would read Usenet on their system because that was faster than reading
>>> over dial-up or DSL. One day news stopped working, so I waited a few days and
>>> called them. The tech put me on hold for a bit, then came back and said
>>> "We stopped the news feed, as there was only one user; you." I was supposed
>>> to get a warning email but didn't. Any way, I switched to Eternal September.
>>
>> Same with MM Internet. Was that your ISP too?
>
> No, Xecunet. They were great, still in business but don't do home users anymore.
> I used them for dial-up starting in the mid-90s, then DSL later on. When the
> DSL switch happened, I didn't want to wait for the DSL box in the mail, so I
> called and asked whether I could pick it up from their office. The reply was
> "Sure, if it's after 5:00 PM just come around back and knock on the door."
>
> Every call to them was handled by a tech who knew what they were doing. A bit
> refreshing to talk to someone who understood traceroute, unlike the most of the
> support staff at the DSL circuit provider.
>

I was amazed when I moved from a BBS to usenet, at how `wild' the
discussion was people would attack you for nno reason, just for fun.
With the BBS system. if you get such a messae, you could call round to
the poster to discuss the matter.

With the bbs systems, it cost little to set up a host, but expensive to
call them.


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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411881 is a reply to message #411876] Thu, 14 October 2021 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anne &amp; Lynn Wheel is currently offline  Anne &amp; Lynn Wheel
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Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> writes:
> I was amazed when I moved from a BBS to usenet, at how `wild' the
> discussion was people would attack you for nno reason, just for fun.
> With the BBS system. if you get such a messae, you could call round to
> the poster to discuss the matter.
>
> With the bbs systems, it cost little to set up a host, but expensive to
> call them.

.... also periodically noticed from 90s on ... if troll wasn't generating
enough for their satisfaction ... they would assume multiple persona
taking different sides trying to draw in as many as possible into
discussion

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411889 is a reply to message #411881] Fri, 15 October 2021 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry Vaderchi is currently offline  Harry Vaderchi
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:27:10 -1000
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote:

> Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> writes:
>> I was amazed when I moved from a BBS to usenet, at how `wild' the
>> discussion was people would attack you for nno reason, just for fun.
>> With the BBS system. if you get such a messae, you could call round
>> to the poster to discuss the matter.
>>
>> With the bbs systems, it cost little to set up a host, but
>> expensive to call them.
>
> ... also periodically noticed from 90s on ... if troll wasn't
> generating enough for their satisfaction ... they would assume
> multiple persona taking different sides trying to draw in as many as
> possible into discussion

There's still a few lonely loons; see e.g. alt.usenet.kooks, but I
really wouldn't recommend it.

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411895 is a reply to message #411889] Fri, 15 October 2021 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Branimir Maksimovic

On 2021-10-15, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:27:10 -1000
> Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote:
>
>> Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> writes:
>>> I was amazed when I moved from a BBS to usenet, at how `wild' the
>>> discussion was people would attack you for nno reason, just for fun.
>>> With the BBS system. if you get such a messae, you could call round
>>> to the poster to discuss the matter.
>>>
>>> With the bbs systems, it cost little to set up a host, but
>>> expensive to call them.
>>
>> ... also periodically noticed from 90s on ... if troll wasn't
>> generating enough for their satisfaction ... they would assume
>> multiple persona taking different sides trying to draw in as many as
>> possible into discussion
>
> There's still a few lonely loons; see e.g. alt.usenet.kooks, but I
> really wouldn't recommend it.
>
You can tell a difference if Loon is capable to talk about different
subject, switch schema and stay ON TOPIC :p


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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411896 is a reply to message #411434] Sat, 16 October 2021 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2021-09-30, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

>
> 40 years for me, and that's more than half of mine!
>

In the 80s i was on BITNET and had access to usenet, but i cannot find
any posts anymore. My address used to be sidd@ohstpy and i was mostly
active on the physics groups. Toward the end of the 80s i switched to
a more contemporary email address, something like sidd@.xxx.xxx.edu

The google archive os quite horrible, as most here know, and i have
long since taken to saving anything i might wish to retain on local
drives.

sidd
Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411897 is a reply to message #411455] Sat, 16 October 2021 03:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2021-10-01, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> most ISPs these days
> provide connectivity, maybe static IPs, maybe IPv6 and (reluctantly)

[USA]
i ask for their business service. more expensive, but comes with an SLA
and much easier static ip allocation (5US$ bucks a month for each from
verizon fiber east coast) Seen the same in the midwest, if you want a
static IP talk to their bizness end.

sidd
Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411898 is a reply to message #411896] Sat, 16 October 2021 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 06:40:29 -0000 (UTC), sidd@situ.com wrote:
> On 2021-09-30, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>>
>> 40 years for me, and that's more than half of mine!
>>
>
> In the 80s i was on BITNET and had access to usenet, but i cannot find
> any posts anymore. My address used to be sidd@ohstpy and i was mostly
> active on the physics groups. Toward the end of the 80s i switched to
> a more contemporary email address, something like sidd@.xxx.xxx.edu
>
> The google archive os quite horrible, as most here know, and i have
> long since taken to saving anything i might wish to retain on local
> drives.
>
> sidd

I was on Bitnet in the late 1980s. Mostly on an Amiga listserv email
list.
Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411899 is a reply to message #411898] Sat, 16 October 2021 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 06:40:29 -0000 (UTC), sidd@situ.com wrote:
>> On 2021-09-30, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 40 years for me, and that's more than half of mine!
>>>
>>
>> In the 80s i was on BITNET and had access to usenet, but i cannot find
>> any posts anymore. My address used to be sidd@ohstpy and i was mostly
>> active on the physics groups. Toward the end of the 80s i switched to
>> a more contemporary email address, something like sidd@.xxx.xxx.edu
>>
>> The google archive os quite horrible, as most here know, and i have
>> long since taken to saving anything i might wish to retain on local
>> drives.
>>
>> sidd
>
> I was on Bitnet in the late 1980s. Mostly on an Amiga listserv email
> list.
>

The best thing about Bitnet was that each host was an actively managed
system. If you started to get insults, threats, etc. from someone you could
contact POSTMAST AT <host>. In really bad cases they could revoke the
user’s access to Bitnet.

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411900 is a reply to message #411874] Sat, 16 October 2021 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: ant

Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
....
> Every call to them was handled by a tech who knew what they were doing. A bit
> refreshing to talk to someone who understood traceroute, unlike the most of the
> support staff at the DSL circuit provider.

Ha, it's not just DSL services. It's like everyone!
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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411903 is a reply to message #411899] Sun, 17 October 2021 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
> The best thing about Bitnet was that each host was an actively managed
> system. If you started to get insults, threats, etc. from someone you
> could contact POSTMAST AT <host>. In really bad cases they could
> revoke the user’s access to Bitnet.

co-worker at (IBM) cambridge science center was responsible for the
internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the
beginning until sometime mid/late 80s)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks
.... technology was also used for the corporate sponsored university
BITNET (which was also larger than arpanet/internet for a time).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET

I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network in
the late 70s and early 80s (folklore is that when corporate executive
committee was told about it, 5of6 wanted to fire me). Afterwards, there
was officially sanctioned computer conferencing software and discussion
groups (with moderators).

I have old (1984) email from person in Paris tasked with setting up
BITNET in Europe (EARN):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Academic_Research_Net work#EARN
looking for networking applications. Early history (1985) of LISTSERV
(had subset of functions available in internal computer conferencing
software)
http://www.lsoft.com/products/listserv-history.asp

trivia: TYMSHARE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare
had started offering its (VM370/)CMS-based online computer conferencing
free to the (mainframe user group) SHARE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHARE_(computing)
in AUG1976, archives here:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

I had a deal with TYMSHARE to get monthly tape dump of all VMSHARE files
for putting up on internal systems and network ... which sort of what
sucked me into also doing computer conferencing on the internal
corporate network.

we both transfer to silicon valley in 1977, SJMerc article about Edson
and "IBM'S MISSED OPPORTUNITY WITH THE INTERNET" (gone behind paywall
but lives free at wayback machine)
http://web.archive.org/web/20000124004147/http://www1.sjmerc ury.com/svtech/columns/gillmor/docs/dg092499.htm
Above article references Ed's website, other articles from Ed ... from
the wayback machine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20000115185349/http://www.edh.net /bungle.htm

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411904 is a reply to message #411900] Mon, 18 October 2021 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2021-10-16, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
> Ha, it's not just DSL services. It's like everyone!

Yea, but they were stereotypically bad. Every call started with "reboot your
modem" no matter what I said. For months I had a problem where every week day,
starting around 3:30PM, througput would drop about 90%. I suspected it was
due to school being let out and people arriving home and jumping online.

A traceroute showed response times from a gateway four hops away in the seconds.
After "rebooting" the modem, the next question was always "What version of
Windows are you running?" Trying to explain that the DSL gateway was connected
to a switch with many systems on it (none running Windows) didn't get me
anywhere. Trying to explain that I could see the long delays at a downstream
router didn't help either. Several times they insisted on sending a tech to the
house to check things, with the threat that if anything was bad inside the
house I would be charged. Of course nothing ever was wrong; strong signal and
all that.

When I finally was able to switch and dump DSL, the tech who came out to do the
disconnect told me that they won't turn it back on; no new DSL accounts. That
indicated to me that they would never fix the problems I had.

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411916 is a reply to message #411530] Tue, 19 October 2021 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 10/03/21 06:52, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Oct 2021 01:50:18 +0000, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>
>> On 2021-10-03, J Clarke<jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 13:34:03 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
>>> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/2/2021 9:49 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> > On Sat, 02 Oct 2021 15:13:14 GMT, Branimir Maksimovic
>>>> > <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2021-10-02, Michael Trew<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I'm quite curious who the oldest poster is on this newsgroup.. I
>>>> >>> don't mean age, but who's been here the longest.
>>>> >> i am on "usenet since 1996 :P
>>>> >
>>>> > Earliest post of mine that I can find is 1997. Was on Compuserve for
>>>> > a long time before that.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> My first post was way back on Compuserve around 1994 iirc.
>>>
>>> Mine would have been some time in the early '80s. I still have my
>>> Smartmodem 300--if the 1200 had existed at the time I would have gone
>>> with that so that puts me somewhere around 1981.
>> Bravo, you are the *oldest* then in internet !
>
> 1981 for me too. I was able to find a very early post, but these days it
> seems impossible to get Google to search for me.
>

We had usenet and ftp at Crosfield in 1989. No browsers, text
only, then Cix from early nineties until NTL put lines around
Oxford and dialup at 1p minute. Such luxury at the time, continually
upgrading the modem firmware as speed went up. Finally, cable from
NTL, shaky to start with, but good speeds...

>
Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #411962 is a reply to message #411899] Sat, 23 October 2021 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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archived recent post in (facebook) internet history group, mentions
internal corporate network, bitnet, csnet, nsfnet, etc.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2021j.html#54
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2021j.html#55

references archived a.f.c. post with copy of Aug1989 "A Critical
Analysis of the Internet Management Situation" from "THE CRUCIBLE"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#19

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #412274 is a reply to message #411538] Tue, 09 November 2021 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Ulick Magee

On 03/10/2021 12:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 02/10/2021 18.12, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
>>
>> All youngsters and nascent hackers:
>>
>> 1. Register a domain name and never lose it.
>>
>> 2. Pay for at least 5 years in advance and put it on your calendar to
>> check yearly.
>>
>> 3. Set up your emails on your own domain so you won't ever lose them.
>
> And how do you do this?


This is what I use:

https://www.blacknight.com/email-only/

I bought my domain from them too, works out at 20 euro a year for email
hosting and the domain, incl VAT.
Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #412514 is a reply to message #411490] Thu, 25 November 2021 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: David Lesher

Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> writes:


> I'm quite curious who the oldest poster is on this
> newsgroup.. I don't mean age, but who's been here the longest.

I arrived between the Great Renaming and the "kremvax" successor
April Fools post about not being fooled by forged Usenet posts;
does anyone recall that year?

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #412518 is a reply to message #412514] Thu, 25 November 2021 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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According to David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com>:
> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> writes:
>
>
>> I'm quite curious who the oldest poster is on this
>> newsgroup.. I don't mean age, but who's been here the longest.

The oldest message of mine I can find in the Google Groups archive is from October 1985,
considerably before the Great Renaming.

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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #412521 is a reply to message #412518] Fri, 26 November 2021 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Geeknix

On 2021-11-26, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> According to David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com>:
>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> writes:
>>> I'm quite curious who the oldest poster is on this
>>> newsgroup.. I don't mean age, but who's been here the longest.
> The oldest message of mine I can find in the Google Groups archive
> is from October 1985, considerably before the Great Renaming.
I'm not sure what's more impressive. You posting since '85 or the fact
you have kept track of your id's and able to find older messages.

I first posted in '94, first year of Uni, but long since forgotten that
id. Then I stopped using Usenet for a LONG time and just recently
started again with this one.

Kudos to you :)


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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #412525 is a reply to message #412521] Fri, 26 November 2021 16:01 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager

On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 07:41:08 +0000, Geeknix wrote:

> On 2021-11-26, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>> According to David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com>:
>>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> writes:
>>>> I'm quite curious who the oldest poster is on this newsgroup.. I don't
>>>> mean age, but who's been here the longest.
>> The oldest message of mine I can find in the Google Groups archive is
>> from October 1985, considerably before the Great Renaming.
> I'm not sure what's more impressive. You posting since '85 or the fact
> you have kept track of your id's and able to find older messages.
>
> I first posted in '94, first year of Uni, but long since forgotten that
> id. Then I stopped using Usenet for a LONG time and just recently
> started again with this one.

On this newsgroup, I'm not quite sure. On Usenet, about 1981/82. That was
as rde@ukc.ac.uk



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Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet [message #412534 is a reply to message #412514] Fri, 26 November 2021 12:42 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: Kurt Weiske

To: David Lesher
-=> David Lesher wrote to sci.crypt,alt.folklore.computers <=-

DL> I arrived between the Great Renaming and the "kremvax" successor
DL> April Fools post about not being fooled by forged Usenet posts;
DL> does anyone recall that year?

1984?

My first experiences on usenet were 1993-1994 or so, reading the ba.*
newsgroups and comp.dcom.telecom. I was a telecom manager in a former life,
back when desk phones roamed the corporate world.

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