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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #404996 is a reply to message #404995] Sat, 30 January 2021 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: JimP

On 30 Jan 2021 20:06:58 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:
> On 2021-01-30, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 16:48:07 +0100
>> Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Now suppose dais captain is deceased and hos widow has a powder box with
>>> a broken mirror. THen one piece of that mirror would be a
>>>
>>> Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänswitwenpuderdosens pielgelsplitterstück
>>
>> Somebody needs to introduce these people to the concept of white
>> space.
>
> I nominate Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-
> crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-dongle-dungle-burste in-
> von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grande r-knotty-
> spelltinkle-grandlich-grumblemeyer-spelterwasser-kurstlich-h imbleeisen-
> bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein-nürnburger-bratwustle-gerspu rten-
> mitzweimache-luber-hundsfut-gumberaber-shönendanker-kalbsfl eisch-
> mittler-aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm.
>
> The first thing we do, let's kill all the marketroids.
> -- not quite Shakespeare

I was just going to post 'of Ulm' but your post is better.

That particular skit like to drove me to sleep.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405001 is a reply to message #404984] Sat, 30 January 2021 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:
> On Mi 27 Jan 2021 at 00:55, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The canonical example is a captain for the Danube Steamship Company:
>>
>> Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitan
>
> Now suppose dais captain is deceased and hos widow has a powder box with
> a broken mirror. THen one piece of that mirror would be a
>
> Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänswitwenpuderdosens pielgelsplitterstück.
>
> 'Andreas
>

:-)

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405002 is a reply to message #404985] Sat, 30 January 2021 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:
> On Mo 25 Jan 2021 at 19:33, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>
>> Granted, gender is a problem for english speakers learning Deutsch, but not for
>> most other latin languages where gender (and more importantly case)
>> are significant.
>
> Yes, but hender can be different in different languages!
> In german the sun - die Sonne - is feminine, the moon - der Mond - is masculine;
> in french it is le soleil (masculine) and la lune (feminine).
>
> 'Andreas
>

A phony explanation for this is that in southern lands the sun is powerful,
and hence masculine, while in northern lands it is weak, and hence
feminine.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405003 is a reply to message #405002] Sat, 30 January 2021 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke

On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 15:46:30 -0700, Peter Flass
<peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:
>> On Mo 25 Jan 2021 at 19:33, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>>
>>> Granted, gender is a problem for english speakers learning Deutsch, but not for
>>> most other latin languages where gender (and more importantly case)
>>> are significant.
>>
>> Yes, but hender can be different in different languages!
>> In german the sun - die Sonne - is feminine, the moon - der Mond - is masculine;
>> in french it is le soleil (masculine) and la lune (feminine).
>>
>> 'Andreas
>>
>
> A phony explanation for this is that in southern lands the sun is powerful,
> and hence masculine, while in northern lands it is weak, and hence
> feminine.

I just checked and the word for "sun" in Arabic is feminine. I tried
the same for the other extreme but the various Eskimo-Aleut languages
seem to not have noun gender.
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405006 is a reply to message #404161] Sat, 30 January 2021 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 14:09:41 -0600
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:

> On 1/29/2021 3:02 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

>> On modern cameras LED flash, on old expensive ones flashgun,
>
> Or strobe, for one with a gas-discharge tube. (Strobe would also apply

To me a strobe is the flashing light used in discos, not something
I associate with cameras at all.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405012 is a reply to message #404161] Sun, 31 January 2021 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2021-01-31, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:

> On 1/30/2021 6:09 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 14:09:41 -0600
>> Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/29/2021 3:02 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>
>>>> On modern cameras LED flash, on old expensive ones flashgun,
>>>
>>> Or strobe, for one with a gas-discharge tube. (Strobe would also apply
>>
>> To me a strobe is the flashing light used in discos, not something
>> I associate with cameras at all.
>>
> Sure. Or to visually freeze motion of rotating objects.
>
> The definition of "electronic flash" predates discos. But it's still
> used in the context of (expensive, powerful) studio gear. What I
> remember as a strobe (more or less the size and packaging like a flash
> gun) seems to now be called a speedlight.
>
> At least, in the US. Dunno what the terminology was/is across the water.

I've only heard the term "speedlight" used by Nikon. Perhaps they're
trying to establish a proprietary term.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405014 is a reply to message #405012] Sun, 31 January 2021 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke

On 31 Jan 2021 05:35:19 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2021-01-31, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/30/2021 6:09 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 14:09:41 -0600
>>> Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/29/2021 3:02 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On modern cameras LED flash, on old expensive ones flashgun,
>>>>
>>>> Or strobe, for one with a gas-discharge tube. (Strobe would also apply
>>>
>>> To me a strobe is the flashing light used in discos, not something
>>> I associate with cameras at all.
>>>
>> Sure. Or to visually freeze motion of rotating objects.
>>
>> The definition of "electronic flash" predates discos. But it's still
>> used in the context of (expensive, powerful) studio gear. What I
>> remember as a strobe (more or less the size and packaging like a flash
>> gun) seems to now be called a speedlight.
>>
>> At least, in the US. Dunno what the terminology was/is across the water.
>
> I've only heard the term "speedlight" used by Nikon. Perhaps they're
> trying to establish a proprietary term.

Strobe works fine. Google "strobist" and you'll find a community
dedicated to the use of such equipment as off-camera flash. However
Canon uses "speedlight" on their Web site.

However studio flash isn't all that expensive. A Canon 600EX is about
500 bucks. A Paul C. Buff Einstein goes for about the same. Of
course you can get fancier and more expensive but there are few studio
situations a set of Einsteins won't handle.
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405023 is a reply to message #404161] Sun, 31 January 2021 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: robertth...@googlemail.com

On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can

I started my first paid programming job on a PDP11/40 in 1973.

> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
> periods of accelerated development?

Steam locomotives came on a long way between about 1830-1880, and of course there has been one fantastically rapid development in my lifetime, "We choose to go to the moon." Radar ans code breaking during WW2 also did very well.
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405026 is a reply to message #405023] Sun, 31 January 2021 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: gareth evans

On 31/01/2021 13:32, robertth...@googlemail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>
> I started my first paid programming job on a PDP11/40 in 1973.
>
>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>> periods of accelerated development?
>
> Steam locomotives came on a long way between about 1830-1880, and of course there has been one fantastically rapid development in my lifetime, "We choose to go to the moon." Radar ans code breaking during WW2 also did very well.
>

The cost of that PDP11-20 was about 10 times my
graduate starting salary, but the new Pico from
the Raspberry Pi stable exceeds its computing power
and memory storage and only costs a few tuppences!
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405038 is a reply to message #405026] Sun, 31 January 2021 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: PeterP

On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 15:58:28 +0000
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 31/01/2021 13:32, robertth...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
>>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>>
>> I started my first paid programming job on a PDP11/40 in 1973.
>>
>>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>>> periods of accelerated development?
>>
>> Steam locomotives came on a long way between about 1830-1880, and
>> of course there has been one fantastically rapid development in my
>> lifetime, "We choose to go to the moon." Radar ans code breaking
>> during WW2 also did very well.
>
> The cost of that PDP11-20 was about 10 times my
> graduate starting salary, but the new Pico from
> the Raspberry Pi stable exceeds its computing power
> and memory storage and only costs a few tuppences!
>

FFS sake give it a rest, you tedious repetitive troll.
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405040 is a reply to message #405038] Sun, 31 January 2021 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: gareth evans

On 31/01/2021 21:27, PeterP wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 15:58:28 +0000
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/2021 13:32, robertth...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
>>>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>>>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>>>
>>> I started my first paid programming job on a PDP11/40 in 1973.
>>>
>>>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>>>> periods of accelerated development?
>>>
>>> Steam locomotives came on a long way between about 1830-1880, and
>>> of course there has been one fantastically rapid development in my
>>> lifetime, "We choose to go to the moon." Radar ans code breaking
>>> during WW2 also did very well.
>>
>> The cost of that PDP11-20 was about 10 times my
>> graduate starting salary, but the new Pico from
>> the Raspberry Pi stable exceeds its computing power
>> and memory storage and only costs a few tuppences!
>>
>
> FFS sake give it a rest, you tedious repetitive troll.
>

I don't know who you are, but your interjection is childish when
you have the option to KF me should you consider me to be a troll.

Grow up, Sonny!
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405041 is a reply to message #405040] Sun, 31 January 2021 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: PeterP

On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 22:11:25 +0000
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> /
Gareth's Downstairs Computer
<headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo.com>/
gareth <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
Areligious Republican <headstone255@yahoo.com>/
Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer <headstone255@yahoo.com>.
wrote:

> On 31/01/2021 21:27, PeterP wrote:

>> FFS sake give it a rest, you tedious repetitive troll.
>>
>
> I don't know who you are, but your interjection is childish when
> you have the option to KF me should you consider me to be a troll.

Yes, of course.

> Grow up, Sonny!
>

You first, cloudy.
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405044 is a reply to message #405023] Sun, 31 January 2021 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> writes:

> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
>
>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>> periods of accelerated development?

The first guns -- 2 of them -- were imported to Japan in the 1540s. A
couple of decades later, gunsmithing was a major industry with
thousands being produced. At the battle of Nagashino in 1575,
hundreds of arquebusiers under Oda Nobunaga and Tokugawa Hideyoshi
pretty much ended classical Japanese warfare by wiping out the whole
Takeda army. (There's a great Kurosawa movie about it: Kagemusha.)

AFAIK, there was little of no improvement or innovation in gun design
but by Nagashino there were far more guns deployed in Japan than in
Elizabeth's England so the craft/industry ramped up at phenomenal
speed.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405055 is a reply to message #404161] Mon, 01 February 2021 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: maus

On 2021-01-31, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2021 16:04:05 GMT, maus wrote:
>>
>> On 2021-01-30, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:
>>> On Mo 25 Jan 2021 at 22:12, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Novice speakers would most likely say "Das Auto gehört der Mann", because
>>>> "der" is a masculine article. Correct is "Das Auto gehört dem Mann". But
>>>> if you use woman (Frau) instead of a man you get "Das Auto gehört der
>>>> Frau". Again, "der" is masculine, but it is correct! Because this is the
>>>> third case (accusative) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusative>.
>>>
>>> Third case is correct, but it is called Dativ. Akkusativ is the fourth case!
>
> Long long ago... You're right.
>
> Remembering a joke:
>
> "Genitiv ins Wasser!"
> "Warum, ist es Dativ?"
>
> Play with words only works in German.
>
>> "Das Auto gehort der Mann", back to self-drive car subject?
>>
>>
>> "Das Auto gehort der Mann", back to self-drive car subject?
>>
>> "Das Auto gehort der Police", more likely
>
> It's "gehört" (or if no Umlaut key available, "gehoert". "Gehort" is no
> German word. Btw. "Police" is "Polizei" in German.
>
Why I like English!.. Describing a contact with police here (.ie) ,
a good contact can be with `police' (Gaelic `Gardai') or a hostile one
would be with `polizei' as in the former police of East Germany, who are
probably rebranded now as ordinary German Police.

(In Ireland, the former official police force, (R.I.C) were allowed to
retire when the new state was organized. but many were brought back
immediatly, mostly former (D.M.P) Dublin Police, and so on.)
>
> And apropos Polizei. Italian (and that I find interesting) Euro dance at
> Mo-Do did a song in 1994 called "Eins, zwei Polizei". If you (in North
> America) wonder what Euro trash pop you missed in the 1990s, there is a
> good point to start. :-D
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watc)h?v=pnphuffsCiY


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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405061 is a reply to message #405041] Mon, 01 February 2021 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: gareth evans

On 31/01/2021 22:50, PeterP wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 22:11:25 +0000
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> /
> Gareth's Downstairs Computer
> <headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo.com>/
> gareth <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
> Areligious Republican <headstone255@yahoo.com>/
> Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer <headstone255@yahoo.com>.
> wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/2021 21:27, PeterP wrote:
>
>>> FFS sake give it a rest, you tedious repetitive troll.
>>>
>>
>> I don't know who you are, but your interjection is childish when
>> you have the option to KF me should you consider me to be a troll.
>
> Yes, of course.
>
>> Grow up, Sonny!
>>
>
> You first, cloudy.
>
>

You now present as an obsessive stalker and thus a candidate
for the loony bin.

Grow up, Sonny!
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405062 is a reply to message #404161] Mon, 01 February 2021 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: gareth evans

On 01/02/2021 02:35, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 16:06:35 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> Remembering a joke:
>> "Genitiv ins Wasser!"
>> "Warum, ist es Dativ?"
>> Play with words only works in German.
> I should had translated it. Genitive and dative has no "e" at the end,
> but as English often swallows vowels at the end of a word, they sound
> pretty much the same.
> And "tiv" is also pronounced like "tief" in German, which means
> "deep". So
> "Genitiv ins Wasser!"
> could be written as "Geh nie tief in Wasser", which translates to "Never
> go deep into the water.
> "Warum, ist es Dativ?"
> That could be written as "Warum, ist es da tief?", which translates "Why,
> is it deep there?".

I have inherited my mother's German text books from the
1930s decade, and not only as obscure as the above, but printed
with a stylised typeface with many strange characters!

But it is enough for me to have done French and Latin
at school (Nailsea Grammar 1962-1969), some Japanese
22 years ago whilst subcontracting at NEC, and now
deeply imbrangled in a Welsh course having recently
inherited my father's library of Welsh books. :-)
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405064 is a reply to message #405044] Mon, 01 February 2021 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: JimP

On 31 Jan 2021 19:32:56 -0400, Mike Spencer
<mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>
> "robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>>> periods of accelerated development?
>
> The first guns -- 2 of them -- were imported to Japan in the 1540s. A
> couple of decades later, gunsmithing was a major industry with
> thousands being produced. At the battle of Nagashino in 1575,
> hundreds of arquebusiers under Oda Nobunaga and Tokugawa Hideyoshi
> pretty much ended classical Japanese warfare by wiping out the whole
> Takeda army. (There's a great Kurosawa movie about it: Kagemusha.)
>
> AFAIK, there was little of no improvement or innovation in gun design
> but by Nagashino there were far more guns deployed in Japan than in
> Elizabeth's England so the craft/industry ramped up at phenomenal
> speed.

There is a movie excerpt on youtube that shows this battle/action. All
in Japanese, I don't remember any sub-titles. But it is obvious what
is going on. Commands, then you see the arquibusers loading, command,
then they aim, etc.

--
Jim
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405066 is a reply to message #405062] Mon, 01 February 2021 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Thomas Koenig

gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> schrieb:
> On 01/02/2021 02:35, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 16:06:35 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>> Remembering a joke:
>>> "Genitiv ins Wasser!"
>>> "Warum, ist es Dativ?"
>>> Play with words only works in German.
>> I should had translated it. Genitive and dative has no "e" at the end,
>> but as English often swallows vowels at the end of a word, they sound
>> pretty much the same.
>> And "tiv" is also pronounced like "tief" in German, which means
>> "deep". So
>> "Genitiv ins Wasser!"
>> could be written as "Geh nie tief in Wasser", which translates to "Never
>> go deep into the water.
>> "Warum, ist es Dativ?"
>> That could be written as "Warum, ist es da tief?", which translates "Why,
>> is it deep there?".
>
> I have inherited my mother's German text books from the
> 1930s decade, and not only as obscure as the above, but printed
> with a stylised typeface with many strange characters!

Probably "Fraktur".

It is actually a little bit better for writing German than the
Antiqua letters we are now using. For example, the difference
between Wachs-tube (a wax tube) and Wach-stube (guardroom) becomes
apparent because there are two different letters for s which make
the difference apparent.

It was actually Hitler who decided to discontinue use of Fraktur,
because he thought it made world domination easier (or something
like that, sources differ).
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405067 is a reply to message #405061] Mon, 01 February 2021 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: PeterP

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 14:08:54 +0000
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 31/01/2021 22:50, PeterP wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 22:11:25 +0000
>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> /
>> Gareth's Downstairs Computer
>> <headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo.com>/
>> gareth <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
>> Areligious Republican <headstone255@yahoo.com>/
>> Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer
>> <headstone255@yahoo.com>. wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/01/2021 21:27, PeterP wrote:
>>
>>>> FFS sake give it a rest, you tedious repetitive troll.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know who you are, but your interjection is childish when
>>> you have the option to KF me should you consider me to be a
>>> troll.
>>
>> Yes, of course.
>>
>>> Grow up, Sonny!
>>>
>>
>> You first, cloudy.
>>
>>
>
> You now present as an obsessive stalker and thus a candidate
> for the loony bin.

Deflecting. nym-shifting troll.

> Grow up, Sonny!
>

You first, Foggy!
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405069 is a reply to message #405067] Mon, 01 February 2021 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: gareth evans

On 01/02/2021 17:49, PeterP wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 14:08:54 +0000
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 31/01/2021 22:50, PeterP wrote:
>>> On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 22:11:25 +0000
>>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> /
>>> Gareth's Downstairs Computer
>>> <headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo.com>/
>>> gareth <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
>>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
>>> Areligious Republican <headstone255@yahoo.com>/
>>> Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer
>>> <headstone255@yahoo.com>. wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2021 21:27, PeterP wrote:
>>>> > FFS sake give it a rest, you tedious repetitive troll.
>>>> I don't know who you are, but your interjection is childish when
>>>> you have the option to KF me should you consider me to be a
>>>> troll.
>>> Yes, of course.
>>>> Grow up, Sonny!
>>> You first, cloudy.
>> You now present as an obsessive stalker and thus a candidate
>> for the loony bin.
> Deflecting. nym-shifting troll.
>> Grow up, Sonny!
> You first, Foggy!

You've appeared out-of-the-blue with no history of posting
to this NG and intent on a personal attack on me, to the
extent that one questions your presence at all.

Whether or not you think me to be a troll, it is you who
has hit a KF - mine.

<PLONK!>
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405072 is a reply to message #405044] Mon, 01 February 2021 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>
> "robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>>> periods of accelerated development?
>
> The first guns -- 2 of them -- were imported to Japan in the 1540s. A
> couple of decades later, gunsmithing was a major industry with
> thousands being produced. At the battle of Nagashino in 1575,
> hundreds of arquebusiers under Oda Nobunaga and Tokugawa Hideyoshi
> pretty much ended classical Japanese warfare by wiping out the whole
> Takeda army. (There's a great Kurosawa movie about it: Kagemusha.)
>
> AFAIK, there was little of no improvement or innovation in gun design
> but by Nagashino there were far more guns deployed in Japan than in
> Elizabeth's England so the craft/industry ramped up at phenomenal
> speed.
>

Japanese craftsmen used to be famous for making identical copies of such
items. Now, of course, they make better things.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405075 is a reply to message #405069] Mon, 01 February 2021 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: PeterP

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 18:41:39 +0000
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 01/02/2021 17:49, PeterP wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 14:08:54 +0000
>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2021 22:50, PeterP wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 22:11:25 +0000
>>>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> /
>>>> Gareth's Downstairs Computer
>>>> <headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo.com>/
>>>> gareth <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
>>>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>/
>>>> Areligious Republican <headstone255@yahoo.com>/
>>>> Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer
>>>> <headstone255@yahoo.com>. wrote:
>>>> > On 31/01/2021 21:27, PeterP wrote:
>>>> >> FFS sake give it a rest, you tedious repetitive troll.
>>>> > I don't know who you are, but your interjection is childish when
>>>> > you have the option to KF me should you consider me to be a
>>>> > troll.
>>>> Yes, of course.
>>>> > Grow up, Sonny!
>>>> You first, cloudy.
>>> You now present as an obsessive stalker and thus a candidate
>>> for the loony bin.
>> Deflecting. nym-shifting troll.
>>> Grow up, Sonny!
>> You first, Foggy!
>
> You've appeared out-of-the-blue with no history of posting
> to this NG and intent on a personal attack on me, to the
> extent that one questions your presence at all.
>
> Whether or not you think me to be a troll, it is you who
> has hit a KF - mine.
>
> <PLONK!>
>

Deflecting nym-shifting troll.
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405080 is a reply to message #405023] Mon, 01 February 2021 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Vir Campestris

On 31/01/2021 13:32, robertth...@googlemail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>
> I started my first paid programming job on a PDP11/40 in 1973.
>
>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>> periods of accelerated development?
>
> Steam locomotives came on a long way between about 1830-1880, and of course there has been one fantastically rapid development in my lifetime, "We choose to go to the moon." Radar ans code breaking during WW2 also did very well.
>
My grandfather was a mechanic in the RFC in WW1. He remembered hearing
about the Wright brothers.

Before he died he flew on Concorde, and we had men on the moon.

Where did it all go wrong?

Andy
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405083 is a reply to message #405080] Mon, 01 February 2021 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 21:34:07 +0000, Vir Campestris
<vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 31/01/2021 13:32, robertth...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
>>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>>
>> I started my first paid programming job on a PDP11/40 in 1973.
>>
>>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>>> periods of accelerated development?
>>
>> Steam locomotives came on a long way between about 1830-1880, and of course there has been one fantastically rapid development in my lifetime, "We choose to go to the moon." Radar ans code breaking during WW2 also did very well.
>>
> My grandfather was a mechanic in the RFC in WW1. He remembered hearing
> about the Wright brothers.
>
> Before he died he flew on Concorde, and we had men on the moon.
>
> Where did it all go wrong?

With regard to the Moon, Nixon era. NASA decided that they _must_
have a manned space program at any cost, so they rushed into the Space
Shuttle without actually doing their homework. They should have built
the X-20 and flown it to get some experience with winged RVs, and
worked out how to build a reusable booster, and then put the two
together, and that would have led to much, much cheaper access to
orbit, which should have been their first priority. But instead it
took another 50 years before somebody actually started working on that
problem in earnest, and it looks like it might not have been nearly as
hard as they thought it was.
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405086 is a reply to message #404636] Mon, 01 February 2021 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Rink

Op 23-1-2021 om 1:49 schreef Peter Flass:
> maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>> On 2021-01-20, Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
>>> For Worldcon about 6500, and it was the same weekend as the Hurling final
>>> in 2019. The smaller cons were a lot smaller and were mainly Irish
>>> fans, with a chunk from the UK and a few from Europe.
>>>
>>> All a lot of fun and I have seen just how much Ireland (or at least in
>>> and around the greater Dublin area) has changed over the past decade or
>>> two.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Incredible change in Dublin, I attend hospital in Tallagh once a week,
>> the whole area is covered with office buildings intended for US tec
>> firms who want Ireland as their base in the EU.(english speaking, but
>> English is becoming second lang in the EU anyway).
>>
>> Outside Dublen, the stream of life contonues as ever.
>>
>
> Has the EU solved the “official language” problem yet? I read somewhere
> that Gaelic is the official language of Ireland ( maybe co-equal with
> English?) and with BREXIT that left no EU member whose official language
> was English, so it was no longer an official language of the EU.
>


English is one of the official languages of Malta.
Malta has two official languages: Maltese and English.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Malta>

According to wikipedia 99% of the Irish people speaks English and 41%
speaks Irish.
Both languages have official status.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Ireland>

So, no problem.
Without the UK there are still at least two countries with English as
one of the official languages.
BTW both countries have the Euro as money....

Rink
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405093 is a reply to message #404161] Mon, 01 February 2021 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2021-02-01, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:

> On 1 Feb 2021 09:54:43 GMT, maus wrote:
>
>> On 2021-01-31, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It's "gehört" (or if no Umlaut key available, "gehoert". "Gehort" is no
>>> German word. Btw. "Police" is "Polizei" in German.
>>>
>> Why I like English!.. Describing a contact with police here (.ie) ,
>> a good contact can be with `police' (Gaelic `Gardai') or a hostile one
>> would be with `polizei' as in the former police of East Germany, who are
>> probably rebranded now as ordinary German Police.
>
> It's also "police" in French (and France). Am amazed that in Quebec
> they're also called "police", because it otherwise seems to rename
> everything to fit into the French language (NATO is OTAN, KFC is
> PFK...). Let's not put the RCMP into this. ;-)

Oh, let's. In French it's GRC (Gendarmerie royal du Canada).
Police cars are marked RCMP-GRC.

After a shootout with a local gangster whose name was
(IIRC) Rocko Cervo, it was suggested that RCMP-GRC stood
for "Rocko Cervo Meets Police - Goodbye Rocko Cervo".

Time to knock off - it's now 04:25 UTC (Co-ordinated Universal Time).

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405094 is a reply to message #405083] Mon, 01 February 2021 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2021-02-01, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

> With regard to the Moon, Nixon era. NASA decided that they _must_
> have a manned space program at any cost, so they rushed into the Space
> Shuttle without actually doing their homework. They should have built
> the X-20 and flown it to get some experience with winged RVs, and
> worked out how to build a reusable booster, and then put the two
> together, and that would have led to much, much cheaper access to
> orbit, which should have been their first priority. But instead it
> took another 50 years before somebody actually started working on that
> problem in earnest, and it looks like it might not have been nearly as
> hard as they thought it was.

It's just like any other system design dilemma. If you're working
under severe real-time constraints, efficiency must go out the window.

"There's never time to do it right, but always time to do it over."

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405096 is a reply to message #405094] Tue, 02 February 2021 01:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke

On 2 Feb 2021 04:26:36 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2021-02-01, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> With regard to the Moon, Nixon era. NASA decided that they _must_
>> have a manned space program at any cost, so they rushed into the Space
>> Shuttle without actually doing their homework. They should have built
>> the X-20 and flown it to get some experience with winged RVs, and
>> worked out how to build a reusable booster, and then put the two
>> together, and that would have led to much, much cheaper access to
>> orbit, which should have been their first priority. But instead it
>> took another 50 years before somebody actually started working on that
>> problem in earnest, and it looks like it might not have been nearly as
>> hard as they thought it was.
>
> It's just like any other system design dilemma. If you're working
> under severe real-time constraints, efficiency must go out the window.
>
> "There's never time to do it right, but always time to do it over."

In 1971 what was this "severe real-time constraint"? Apollo had a
time constraint "by the end of this decade". The Shuttle didn't. They
could take as long as they needed.
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405097 is a reply to message #405096] Tue, 02 February 2021 01:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 02 Feb 2021 01:13:51 -0500
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

> In 1971 what was this "severe real-time constraint"? Apollo had a
> time constraint "by the end of this decade". The Shuttle didn't. They
> could take as long as they needed.

They had the same essential time constraint that Apollo did, get it
done before the Soviets make us look silly.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405101 is a reply to message #405086] Tue, 02 February 2021 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 02:02:18 +0100,
Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote:
> According to wikipedia 99% of the Irish people speaks English and 41%
> speaks Irish.

41% speaks Irish sounds high to me for actually "speaks".

https://www.irishcentral.com/culture/how-much-irish-spoken-i n-ireland
shows some figures (which are obviously self-reported). The list in
the section "How often is Irish spoken in Ireland" is the key one.
Only 185276 people said they spoke Irish weekly (or more regularly).
As to how well the others speak is a different matter - some may be
fluent whilst others may have basic Irish, some may only have just a
few words.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405102 is a reply to message #405101] Tue, 02 February 2021 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 02 Feb 2021 04:38:16 -0600
Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 02:02:18 +0100,
> Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote:
>> According to wikipedia 99% of the Irish people speaks English and 41%
>> speaks Irish.
>
> 41% speaks Irish sounds high to me for actually "speaks".

Yeah make that "can speak" and it seems reasonable.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405106 is a reply to message #405080] Tue, 02 February 2021 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: JimP

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 21:34:07 +0000, Vir Campestris
<vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 31/01/2021 13:32, robertth...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 20:22:06 UTC, gareth evans wrote:
>>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>>
>> I started my first paid programming job on a PDP11/40 in 1973.
>>
>>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>>> periods of accelerated development?
>>
>> Steam locomotives came on a long way between about 1830-1880, and of course there has been one fantastically rapid development in my lifetime, "We choose to go to the moon." Radar ans code breaking during WW2 also did very well.
>>
> My grandfather was a mechanic in the RFC in WW1. He remembered hearing
> about the Wright brothers.
>
> Before he died he flew on Concorde, and we had men on the moon.
>
> Where did it all go wrong?
>
> Andy

People pretending the money went into outer space, when it was
actually planetary jobs.

--
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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405935 is a reply to message #404163] Wed, 24 February 2021 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Daniel

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:

> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 20:21:57 +0000
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>> today purchase microprocessors with an equal or better
>> capability for only a few £££ or $$$.
>>
>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>> periods of accelerated development?
>
> Flight! The Wright brothers got Kittyhawk off the ground in 1903,
> by 1953 we were seeing the first jet airliners (the 707 was only a year
> later) and we were only four years short of the first satellite launch.

My wife and I were talking about a similar thing the other day. How,
when WWII started, aviation was already nearly forty years old, in terms
of technological development.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405942 is a reply to message #404161] Wed, 24 February 2021 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 7:22:06 AM UTC+11, gareth evans wrote:
> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
> today purchase microprocessors with an equal or better
> capability for only a few £££ or $$$.
>
> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
> periods of accelerated development?
..
Aeroplanes?
Medicine
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405946 is a reply to message #405935] Wed, 24 February 2021 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 20:21:57 +0000
>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>>> today purchase microprocessors with an equal or better
>>> capability for only a few £££ or $$$.
>>>
>>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>>> periods of accelerated development?
>>
>> Flight! The Wright brothers got Kittyhawk off the ground in 1903,
>> by 1953 we were seeing the first jet airliners (the 707 was only a year
>> later) and we were only four years short of the first satellite launch.
>
> My wife and I were talking about a similar thing the other day. How,
> when WWII started, aviation was already nearly forty years old, in terms
> of technological development.
>

It moves slowly when you’re going thru it, but looking back you realize how
short a time it’s been. Hopefully fusion power by 2035.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405951 is a reply to message #405946] Wed, 24 February 2021 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2021-02-24, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It moves slowly when you’re going thru it, but looking back you realize
> how short a time it’s been. Hopefully fusion power by 2035.

Don't hold your breath. Fusion has been 10 years away for the last 50 years.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405953 is a reply to message #405946] Wed, 24 February 2021 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: JimP

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 09:27:23 -0700, Peter Flass
<peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 20:21:57 +0000
>>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>>>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>>>> today purchase microprocessors with an equal or better
>>>> capability for only a few £££ or $$$.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>>>> periods of accelerated development?
>>>
>>> Flight! The Wright brothers got Kittyhawk off the ground in 1903,
>>> by 1953 we were seeing the first jet airliners (the 707 was only a year
>>> later) and we were only four years short of the first satellite launch.
>>
>> My wife and I were talking about a similar thing the other day. How,
>> when WWII started, aviation was already nearly forty years old, in terms
>> of technological development.
>>
>
> It moves slowly when you’re going thru it, but looking back you realize how
> short a time it’s been. Hopefully fusion power by 2035.

I remember 3 tv stations back in the 1950s. And one only came in
fairly well at night. One local radio station. Two small supermarkets,
a one screen movie theater. Next town over had 2 movie theaters. One
was a smaller, fewer statues, etc., movie palace. All three of those
movie theaters have been closed for years and 2 are falling apart. All
of the drive-in movie theaters are gone.

If I sent a letter home from my ship in the Mediterranean Sea, it
could take a month. Now they have live conferencing and email.

I remember my grandmother and I going outside when Sputnik went
overhead. Now there are thousands of satellites. Cell phones were
considered to be science fiction back then. Now billions of people
have them.


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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405960 is a reply to message #405953] Wed, 24 February 2021 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes:

> I remember 3 tv stations back in the 1950s. And one only came in
> fairly well at night. One local radio station. Two small supermarkets,
> a one screen movie theater. Next town over had 2 movie theaters. One
> was a smaller, fewer statues, etc., movie palace. All three of those
> movie theaters have been closed for years and 2 are falling apart. All
> of the drive-in movie theaters are gone.



http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/temp/tracy.jpg


Note the Happy New Year inscription from the artist in the corner.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405961 is a reply to message #405960] Wed, 24 February 2021 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: JimP

On 24 Feb 2021 17:23:37 -0400, Mike Spencer
<mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>
> JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I remember 3 tv stations back in the 1950s. And one only came in
>> fairly well at night. One local radio station. Two small supermarkets,
>> a one screen movie theater. Next town over had 2 movie theaters. One
>> was a smaller, fewer statues, etc., movie palace. All three of those
>> movie theaters have been closed for years and 2 are falling apart. All
>> of the drive-in movie theaters are gone.
>
>
>
> http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/temp/tracy.jpg
>
>
> Note the Happy New Year inscription from the artist in the corner.

Interesting. I read that comic strip when I was a kid. That is the one
that predicted wrist phones. The movie palace above had some stars
show up to promote their movies. Roy Rogers and Trigger being two back
in the 1940s.

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Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) [message #405966 is a reply to message #405951] Wed, 24 February 2021 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke

On 24 Feb 2021 17:33:22 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2021-02-24, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> It moves slowly when you’re going thru it, but looking back you realize
>> how short a time it’s been. Hopefully fusion power by 2035.
>
> Don't hold your breath. Fusion has been 10 years away for the last 50 years.

That depends on who you talk to. If you're talking to people who have
actually built a fusion reactor that produces theoretical breakeven
they're saying some time in the 2080-2100 timeframe for a working
power plant. If you're talking to Lockheed or other beltway bandits
who have never actually built any kind of fusion reactor the "ten
years away" is more common.
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