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Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394826] Fri, 22 May 2020 20:59 Go to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: James Davis

I have extracted 'Two Different' Integer BASIC E8 ROM images, 2005 vs 2010, from the zips I have found it in. Does anyone know which one is the correct one? The 2010 version seems to be better (most correct, less misspellings), but the 2005 version seems to be the one in most of the whole Integer BASIC (E0+E8+F0) ROM images I have found in the zips. It is just the E8 ROM that has differences; the other E0+F0 ROMs are the same in all zips, 2005 and 2010.
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394887 is a reply to message #394826] Sun, 24 May 2020 00:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: awanderin

James Davis <JPD.Enterprises@outlook.com> writes:

> I have extracted 'Two Different' Integer BASIC E8 ROM images, 2005 vs
> 2010, from the zips I have found it in. Does anyone know which one is
> the correct one? The 2010 version seems to be better (most correct,
> less misspellings), but the 2005 version seems to be the one in most
> of the whole Integer BASIC (E0+E8+F0) ROM images I have found in the
> zips. It is just the E8 ROM that has differences; the other E0+F0
> ROMs are the same in all zips, 2005 and 2010.

What are the SHA1 values for the ROMs you have?

The E8 Integer ROMs in my collection have this SHA1:
9767d92d04fc65c626223f25564cca31f5248980 341-0002_integer-basic-E8_2716.rom

Also, I'm curious if you have URLs for the two versions you have?
Thanks!


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Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394890 is a reply to message #394887] Sun, 24 May 2020 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: awanderin

awanderin <awanderin@gmail.com> writes:

> James Davis <JPD.Enterprises@outlook.com> writes:
>
>> I have extracted 'Two Different' Integer BASIC E8 ROM images, 2005 vs
>> 2010, from the zips I have found it in. Does anyone know which one is
>> the correct one? The 2010 version seems to be better (most correct,
>> less misspellings), but the 2005 version seems to be the one in most
>> of the whole Integer BASIC (E0+E8+F0) ROM images I have found in the
>> zips. It is just the E8 ROM that has differences; the other E0+F0
>> ROMs are the same in all zips, 2005 and 2010.
>
> What are the SHA1 values for the ROMs you have?
>
> The E8 Integer ROMs in my collection have this SHA1:
> 9767d92d04fc65c626223f25564cca31f5248980 341-0002_integer-basic-E8_2716.rom
>
> Also, I'm curious if you have URLs for the two versions you have?
> Thanks!

I found a ROM that has a mismatch:

ftp.apple.asimov.net:/pub/apple_II/emulators/rom_images/Appl e II ROMs.zip

file: 3410002_E800.Bin

The first 16 bytes of both a known-good ROM and this copy are:

known good:
00000000 f2 20 15 e7 b5 50 85 da b5 78 85 db a5 ce 91 da

3410002_E800.Bin:
00000000 e2 20 05 e7 a5 40 85 ca a5 68 85 cb a5 ce 81 ca

A quick look at the assembly code shows that the second one has an
illegal 6502 instruction at the 14th byte
81 ca

whereas in the good ROM it's
91 da sta ($da),y

Looking around, I saw other ROM dumps that looked obviously wrong, so
one has to be careful about what is good and what is not. In the case
of Integer BASIC ROMs, we are lucky that there are tons of copies of DOS
3.3 SYSTEM MASTER disks out there and they all have INTBASIC on them,
from which we can get the correct data.


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Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394904 is a reply to message #394890] Sun, 24 May 2020 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I found a ROM that has a mismatch:
>
> ftp.apple.asimov.net:/pub/apple_II/emulators/rom_images/Appl e II ROMs.zip
>
> file: 3410002_E800.Bin
>
> The first 16 bytes of both a known-good ROM and this copy are:
>
> known good:
> 00000000 f2 20 15 e7 b5 50 85 da b5 78 85 db a5 ce 91 da
>
> 3410002_E800.Bin:
> 00000000 e2 20 05 e7 a5 40 85 ca a5 68 85 cb a5 ce 81 ca
>
> A quick look at the assembly code shows that the second one has an
> illegal 6502 instruction at the 14th byte
> 81 ca
>
> whereas in the good ROM it's
> 91 da sta ($da),y
>
> Looking around, I saw other ROM dumps that looked obviously wrong, so
> one has to be careful about what is good and what is not. In the case
> of Integer BASIC ROMs, we are lucky that there are tons of copies of DOS
> 3.3 SYSTEM MASTER disks out there and they all have INTBASIC on them,
> from which we can get the correct data.
>
>
> --
> Jerry awanderin at gmail dot com


What is really weird is that every byte that is different has a hex value exactly $10 less than in the good copy. Now why would someone go and do that for?
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394914 is a reply to message #394904] Sun, 24 May 2020 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: fadden

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-7, gid...@sasktel.net wrote:
> What is really weird is that every byte that is different has a hex value exactly $10 less than in the good copy. Now why would someone go and do that for?

Bad RAM?
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394919 is a reply to message #394914] Sun, 24 May 2020 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: awanderin

fadden <thefadden@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 8:31:11 AM UTC-7, gid...@sasktel.net wrote:
>> What is really weird is that every byte that is different has a hex
>> value exactly $10 less than in the good copy. Now why would someone
>> go and do that for?
>
> Bad RAM?

Or bad EPROM reader? Who knows? But you are right, bit 4 of every byte
is cleared. There are other ROMs in this ZIP file that have this issue.

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Jerry awanderin at gmail dot com
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394962 is a reply to message #394887] Mon, 25 May 2020 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: James Davis

They came out of two of the zip files here:

ftp://public.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/emulators/rom_images/

../APPLE Computer and Peripheral Card Roms Collection.zip

and another that I don't have the name of any more.
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394963 is a reply to message #394919] Mon, 25 May 2020 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: James Davis

> ... There are other ROMs in this ZIP file that have this issue.

Do you have a list of the bad ones that you can post here?
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394964 is a reply to message #394963] Mon, 25 May 2020 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: James Davis

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7, James Davis wrote:
>> ... There are other ROMs in this ZIP file that have this issue.
>
> Do you have a list of the bad ones that you can post here?

We need to tell Asimov to get good replacements for the bad ones.
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #394982 is a reply to message #394964] Tue, 26 May 2020 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: James Davis

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 12:32:21 PM UTC-7, James Davis wrote:
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7, James Davis wrote:
>>> ... There are other ROMs in this ZIP file that have this issue.
>>
>> Do you have a list of the bad ones that you can post here?
>
> We need to tell Asimov to get good replacements for the bad ones.

============================================================ ==========
GOOD & BAD Apple II Integer BASIC E8 ROM Images:
============================================================ ==========

Apple II ROMs {FTP Sources}
============================================================ ==========
./ = ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/emulators/rom_images /
--------------------------------- or ---------------------------------
./ = ftp://public.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/emulators/rom_images/
============================================================ ==========

BAD Apple II Integer BASIC E8 ROM images:
¯¯¯
./Apple II ROMs.zip
./INTBASIC ROMs.zip

\3410002_E800.Bin <-[is BAD within both of the zip files above.]

============================================================ ==========

GOOD Apple II Integer BASIC E8 ROM images:
¯¯¯¯
./APPLE Computer and Peripheral Card ROMs Collection.zip

\A2ROM.BIN <-[OK within this whole ...
[... Integer BASIC D0+D8+E0+E8+F0+F8 ROMs image.]

\Apple II - 341-0002 - Integer BASIC E800 - 2716.bin

============================================================ ==========
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #395026 is a reply to message #394982] Wed, 27 May 2020 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: awanderin

James Davis <JPD.Enterprises@outlook.com> writes:

> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 12:32:21 PM UTC-7, James Davis wrote:
>> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7, James Davis wrote:
>>>> ... There are other ROMs in this ZIP file that have this issue.
>>>
>>> Do you have a list of the bad ones that you can post here?
>>
>> We need to tell Asimov to get good replacements for the bad ones.
>
> ============================================================ ==========
> GOOD & BAD Apple II Integer BASIC E8 ROM Images:
> ============================================================ ==========
>
> Apple II ROMs {FTP Sources}
> ============================================================ ==========
> ./ = ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/emulators/rom_images /
> --------------------------------- or ---------------------------------
> ./ = ftp://public.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/emulators/rom_images/
> ============================================================ ==========
>
> BAD Apple II Integer BASIC E8 ROM images:
> ¯¯¯
> ./Apple II ROMs.zip
> ./INTBASIC ROMs.zip
>
> \3410002_E800.Bin <-[is BAD within both of the zip files above.]
>
> ============================================================ ==========
>
> GOOD Apple II Integer BASIC E8 ROM images:
> ¯¯¯¯
> ./APPLE Computer and Peripheral Card ROMs Collection.zip
>
> \A2ROM.BIN <-[OK within this whole ...
> [... Integer BASIC D0+D8+E0+E8+F0+F8 ROMs image.]
>
> \Apple II - 341-0002 - Integer BASIC E800 - 2716.bin
>
> ============================================================ ==========

I didn't keep a record of the bad ones. IIRC, the Disk II PROMs were
bad, both the state-machine PROM and the boot code PROM.

How does one go about telling asimov about bad files?

This is my self-organized collection of Apple II-related ROMs:

SHA1SUM SIZE NAME
3763cf0c9e397bb1da403d60049b22b5e5f41bb1 8192 ./chargen/a2-chargen-342-0276-A-2764.bin
99bbedf7235046f0475ab9c1189bb0a2f2f01625 2048 ./chargen/character.rom
e3d6d1c30653572b49ecc2dc54ce073978411a04 256 ./disk-ii/341-0009_13-sector-disk-ii-state-machine.rom
afd060e6f35faf3bb0146fa889fc787adf56330a 256 ./disk-ii/341-0010_13-sector-disk-ii-controller.rom
d4181c9f046aafc3fb326b381baac809d9e38d16 256 ./disk-ii/341-0027-A_disk-ii-P5A.rom
9a6fa10cd238772d3a64cf80288d6d364b9bb46f 256 ./disk-ii/341-0028-A_disk-ii-P6A.rom
bc39fbd5b9a8d2287ac5d0a42e639fc4d3c2f9d4 256 ./disk-ii/341-0028-A_disk-ii-P6A.rom_incorrect
d4181c9f046aafc3fb326b381baac809d9e38d16 256 ./disk-ii/disk-ii-P5A.rom
9a6fa10cd238772d3a64cf80288d6d364b9bb46f 256 ./disk-ii/disk-ii-P6A.rom
4e9f4ec881bd959c5a738d88ff863c56bbe9d830 256 ./disk-ii/diskii.prom#062000
5e7142e729fd786758179821589d96426b10bef5 256 ./disk-ii/diskii.prom#062000.fix
d4181c9f046aafc3fb326b381baac809d9e38d16 256 ./disk-ii/slot6.rom
bf32195efcb34b694c893c2d342321ec3a24b98f 2048 ./ii/341-0001_integer-basic-E0_2716.rom
9767d92d04fc65c626223f25564cca31f5248980 2048 ./ii/341-0002_integer-basic-E8_2716.rom
f268022da555e4c809ca1ae9e5d2f00b388ff61c 2048 ./ii/341-0003_integer-basic-F0_2716.rom
52a18bd578a4694420009cad7a7a5779a8c00226 2048 ./ii/341-0004_old-monitor-F8_2716.rom
c9a81d704dc2f0c3416c20f9c4ab71fedda937ed 2048 ./ii/341-0016-_programmers-aid-D0_2716.rom
09288be705464b608ff190519ab008d3dfcd1b05 12288 ./ii/apple_ii.rom
ad1bcd936e5df37cf7dfaf586d904d4d77378ed2 16384 ./iic/342-0033-A_iic-monitor-00.rom
3708b37d986dc6ae8d9fedacc8e087c377b6095f 4096 ./iic/342-0132_iic-keyboard.rom
882ee6921f0d5d6615cf7c52881dda2f319c2696 8192 ./iic/342-0275_iic-video-deutsch.rom
127dd1fa955dbf85949e19e114d9ac235a802a0d 2048 ./iic/342-0284A-2716.bin
d0c9b008f87b1f5a06df3fc3bb0a8243036187f0 4096 ./iic/342-0284A-2732.bin
1a9b8aca5e32bb702ddb7791daddd60a89655729 16384 ./iic/apple2c-rev-255.bin
5338d9baa7ae202457b6500fde5883dbdc86e5d3 32768 ./iic/apple2c-rev-3.bin
fb0d644aafaff1352d0816bc8494f6c9913809d5 32768 ./iic/apple2c.rom
6b330e69236f2c0bfd3c1bbd30765887778a667c 2556 ./iic/apple-iic_glu_342-0243-A_gal20xv10.jed
5d7bbe21acecc01114ad182bd69b6318c6b22699 2044 ./iic/apple-iic_glu_342-0243-A_pal20x4a.jed
8e14e85c645187504ec9d162b3ea614a0c421d32 2048 ./iic/Apple IIc Keyboard 342-0132-D Dvorak 2716.dat
5338d9baa7ae202457b6500fde5883dbdc86e5d3 32768 ./iic/Apple IIc MON $03 342-0445-A 27256.bin
1a27ae26966bbafd825d08ad1a24742d3e33557c 32768 ./iic/Apple IIc+ MON $05 341-0625-A 27256.bin
1a27ae26966bbafd825d08ad1a24742d3e33557c 32768 ./iic/apple-iic-plus.rom
1a27ae26966bbafd825d08ad1a24742d3e33557c 32768 ./iic/apple-iic-plus_rom05_341-0625-A
10767e96cc17bad0970afda3a4146564e6272ba1 32768 ./iic/apple-iic_rom00_342-0033-A
015061597c4cda7755aeb88b735994ffd2f235ca 32768 ./iic/apple-iic_rom04_341-0445-B
1a9b8aca5e32bb702ddb7791daddd60a89655729 16384 ./iic/apple-iic-romFF_342-0272-A
b2b5d87f52693817fc747df087a4aa1ddcdb1f10 4096 ./iic/Apple IIc Video - 341-0265-A - 2732.bin
47bb9608be38ff75429a989b930a93b47099648e 2048 ./iie/341-0150-A_iie-keyboard_2716.bin
c44809bbb017bfe3c07dc99e87a3a9fa7b9741c3 2048 ./iie/341-0151-A_iie-keyboard-deutsch-usa.rom
c44809bbb017bfe3c07dc99e87a3a9fa7b9741c3 2048 ./iie/341-0151-A_iie-keyboard-german_2716.rom
48aafa9a72002c495bc1f3d28150630ff89ca47e 8192 ./iie/341-0160-A_iie-video-euro-enhanced_2764.rom
a6cca6c569dba80aeb789c9cb7292f93dab00c29 8192 ./iie/341-0161-A_iie-video-deutsch-usa.rom
a6cca6c569dba80aeb789c9cb7292f93dab00c29 8192 ./iie/341-0161-A_iie-video-enhanced-german_2764.rom
c2f249589ee02121c27336af022bbca0cc9b2245 2048 ./iie/342-0132-B_iie-keyboard_2716.bin
12a2e718f5f4acd69b6c33a45a4a940b1440a481 2048 ./iie/342-0132-C_iie-keyboard_2716.bin
8e14e85c645187504ec9d162b3ea614a0c421d32 2048 ./iie/342-0132-D_iie-keyboard_2716.bin
58ad0008df72896a18601e090ee0d58155ffa5be 4096 ./iie/342-0133-A_iie-video-unenhanced_2732.rom
8895a4b703f2184b673078f411f4089889b61c54 8192 ./iie/342-0134-A_iie-unenhanced-EF_2764.rom
523838c19c79f481fa02df56856da1ec3816d16e 8192 ./iie/342-0135-B_iie-unenhanced-CD_2764.rom
b2b5d87f52693817fc747df087a4aa1ddcdb1f10 4096 ./iie/342-0265-A_iie-video-enhanced_2732.rom
127dd1fa955dbf85949e19e114d9ac235a802a0d 2048 ./iie/342-0284A-2716.bin
d0c9b008f87b1f5a06df3fc3bb0a8243036187f0 4096 ./iie/342-0284A-2732.bin
afb09bb96038232dc757d40c0605623cae38088e 8192 ./iie/342-0303-A_iie-enhanced-EF_2764.rom
3aecc56a26134df51e65e17f33ae80c1f1ac93e6 8192 ./iie/342-0304-A_iie-enhanced-CD_2764.rom
b8ea90abe135a0031065e01697c4a3a20d51198b 16384 ./iie/342-0349-B_iie-platinum-CF_27128_c000-ffff_1985.rom
b8ea90abe135a0031065e01697c4a3a20d51198b 16384 ./iie/apple2e-platinum-cf.bin
d756eba578a6c5a4807510dfee30ee585c63755e 32768 ./iie/apple2e.rom
3aecc56a26134df51e65e17f33ae80c1f1ac93e6 8192 ./iie/apple-iie_cd-enhanced.rom
523838c19c79f481fa02df56856da1ec3816d16e 8192 ./iie/apple-iie_cd-orig.rom
afb09bb96038232dc757d40c0605623cae38088e 8192 ./iie/apple-iie_ef-enhanced.rom
8895a4b703f2184b673078f411f4089889b61c54 8192 ./iie/apple-iie_ef-orig.rom
c17d5812d72211b71674a6faa03c34cc8ff967f1 1236 ./iie/Apple_IIe-IIc_TMG-341-0170-A-ABEL_Equations_Labeled.tx t
59ea6d22282c2554ee8a3da7faf095ff3b105eb3 729 ./iie/Apple_IIe-IIc_TMG-341-0170-A-ABEL_Equations.txt
fa53db6c055960eb2f2eef7cd2827a426a70b945 3344 ./iie/Apple_IIe-IIc_TMG-341-0170-A-GAL16V8.JED
c0a4fa9e073f6466011502098a4275be39aaa813 2732 ./iie/Apple_IIe-IIc_TMG-341-0170-A-PAL16R8.jed
4043e0808af8be096660827445e41149d16c5c85 4096 ./iie/Apple_IIe_Video_French_Canadian-Enhanced-2732.bin
42afb02aab4146f781ac52803a2733adc4da834e 4096 ./iie/Apple_IIe_Video_French_Canadian-Unenhanced-341-0168-A- 2732.bin
0dc93e94a236f50aca92e3afff8e486dbfaf5fc3 16384 ./iie/IIEDBV6.BIN
c0f4704233ead14cb8e1e8a68fbd7063c56afd27 131072 ./iigs/341-0737-iigs-rom03-FC_27C1001.rom
c70576869deec92ca82c78438b1d5c686eac7480 131072 ./iigs/341-0748-iigs-rom03-FE_27C1001.rom
90ae5cbd5dff056bf39e44bde76f150e18956d33 131072 ./iigs/342-0077-B_iigs-rom01_27C1001.rom
ff0c245dd0732ec4413a934fd80efc2defd8a8e3 131072 ./iigs/apple2gs-rev-0.bin
91beeb11827932fe10475252d8036a63a2edbb1c 32768 ./iigs/Apple IIgs ROM 00 Bank FE Pages 00-7F.bin
0ea82e10720a01b68722ab7d9f66efec672a44d3 32768 ./iigs/Apple IIgs ROM 00 Bank FE Pages 80-FF.bin
4806d50d676b06f5213b181693fc1585956b98bb 32768 ./iigs/Apple IIgs ROM 00 Bank FF Pages 00-7F.bin
0c2890bb169ead63369738bbd5f33b869f24c42a 32768 ./iigs/Apple IIgs ROM 00 Bank FF Pages 80-FF.bin
e4fc7560b69d062cb2da5b1ffbe11cd1ca03cc37 131072 ./iigs/apple-iigs-rom-01
bc32bc0e8902946663998f56aea52be597d9e361 262144 ./iigs/apple-iigs-rom-03
c0f4704233ead14cb8e1e8a68fbd7063c56afd27 131072 ./iigs/Apple IIGS ROM 03 Banks FC-FD - 341-0728.bin
c0f4704233ead14cb8e1e8a68fbd7063c56afd27 131072 ./iigs/Apple IIgs ROM 03 Banks FC-FD - 341-0737.bin
c70576869deec92ca82c78438b1d5c686eac7480 131072 ./iigs/Apple IIgs ROM 03 Banks FF-FE - 341-0748.bin
0287ebcef2c1ce11dc71be15a99d2d7e0e128b1e 2048 ./ii-plus/341-0011-D0_applesoft.rom
a75ce5aab6401355bf1ab01b04e4946a424879b5 2048 ./ii-plus/341-0012-D8_applesoft.rom
8d82a1da63224859bd619005fab62c4714b25dd7 2048 ./ii-plus/341-0013-E0_applesoft.rom
37501be96d36d041667c15d63e0c1eff2f7dd4e9 2048 ./ii-plus/341-0014-E8_applesoft.rom
e6bf91ed28464f42b807f798fc6422e5948bf581 2048 ./ii-plus/341-0015-F0_applesoft.rom
a28852ff997b4790e53d8d0352112c4b1a395098 2048 ./ii-plus/341-0020-F8_autostart_monitor.rom
f9d312f128c9557d9d6ac03bfad6c3ddf83e5659 2048 ./ii-plus/341-0036_ii-plus-character.rom
8c5ca0c39005dfb0898af2c0992f797cc77530c0 12288 ./ii-plus/apple_ii_plus-D0-FF.rom
447874fe0850c8add3fd5b13fa98f6648fe6f999 2048 ./ii-plus/apple-ii-plus-lowercase-character_2716.rom
29a53f3bb158b160433369e8e4a1d7cd5bf68ac6 20480 ./ii-plus/apple-ii+.rom
0828889045729dbf9bdf28a6b147c052e530d88f 2048 ./ii-plus/pig-font-character-generator_2716.rom
e1dc071e874766d5e8736bcb1336e331741470cf 256 ./peripherals/341-0006_apple-communications-card.rom
b025f03bb5a9316d4a50bca5503ad4825389518f 2048 ./peripherals/341-0026-00_graphics-tablet-interface_2716.rom
6dab633470c6bc4cb3e81d09fda46597caf8ee57 2048 ./peripherals/341-0065-A_super-serial-card.rom
08f6689afb517e0a2bdaa48433003e62a66ae3c7 2048 ./peripherals/341-0080-B_profile-5mb-rw-z8.rom
6e823a1fa40ed37eeddcef23f5df24da2ea1463e 4096 ./peripherals/341-0344-A_apple-ii-memory-expansion_2732.rom
451c85c46b92e6ad2ad930f055ccf0fe3049936d 16384 ./peripherals/341-0437-A_apple-scsi-rev-c_27128.rom
440c3f84176c7b9f542da0b6ddf4fb13ec326c46 32768 ./peripherals/341-0438-A_apple-3.5-floppy-controller_27c256. rom
7d32227299933bfc1b7f8bc2062906fdfe530674 32768 ./peripherals/341-0803_apple-high-speed-scsi-card.rom
3a9d881a8a8d30f55b9719aceebbcf717f829d6f 2048 ./peripherals/342-0270-C_mouse-firmware_2716.rom
90bb944fef73f758af921c3910df9b0689f7c920 2048 ./peripherals/ap-64e-eprom-burner.rom
b025f03bb5a9316d4a50bca5503ad4825389518f 2048 ./peripherals/graphics-tablet-interface_341-0026-00
b1571af6cb0d9e01b9a148800e6175515119c49c 2861 ./peripherals/gs-ram-plus_GSPLD1A_ROM0-1_GAL20V8.jed
67a1c40cd11b120dbd1ddfb33c2ae148cd3f253d 2861 ./peripherals/gs-ram-plus_GSPLD1B_ROM3_GAL20V8.jed
369340c2122ae7024cec8ba4c58a2fdc1b3ab55e 2349 ./peripherals/gs-ram-plus_GSPLD2A_GAL16V8.jed
8ca3b759c4fe573ceb066c1a6aa2c53c2be0931f 2732 ./peripherals/gs-ram_rev-A_GSRMB-M_TIBPAL16L8.jed
fd9135176853a202a56063365fbbdd565422962c 2349 ./peripherals/gs-ram_rev-E_GSE1A_GAL16V8.jed
e719427b8316f6e1aa3214a93f7bf5b8843366fa 2861 ./peripherals/gs-ram_rev-E_GSE2A_ROM0-1_GAL20V8.jed
cc8142534c32b89170e4dece0a30a4f2503da83a 2861 ./peripherals/gs-ram_rev-E_GSE2B_ROM3_GAL20V8.jed
e8d20f4b59fe867ff76434d35a14d2cbdc8533e3 2048 ./peripherals/mockingboard-d_2716.rom
c4bc9ab0872475c3d89ea893630c9047fb2b28ab 8192 ./peripherals/udc-0-short_david_2764.rom
d9e269bec8edd5516188a8c60715e9d96156b849 8192 ./peripherals/udc-40-tack-mod_2764.rom
96283272d0af7975f2d113f2756ac9c9b21f95cc 8192 ./peripherals/udc-long-bill_2764.rom
3c1542594d83ed3bacf9572fe1bd38efad50bc15 8192 ./peripherals/udc-long-henry_2764.rom
356db01cc7fd75ba303562b6f019777f58b7ec26 8192 ./peripherals/udc-short-henry_2764.rom


It's good to have known-good sha1sums for ROMs so they can be filtered
quickly as good or bad.

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Jerry awanderin at gmail dot com
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #395032 is a reply to message #395026] Wed, 27 May 2020 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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awanderin <awanderin@gmail.com> wrote:

> How does one go about telling asimov about bad files?

As you connect to FTP in an FTP application there is some text which
includes an email address to use.

asimovlookerafterer@mail.com
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #395126 is a reply to message #395026] Fri, 29 May 2020 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: James Davis

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 10:46:45 PM UTC-7, awanderin wrote:
> How does one go about telling asimov about bad files?
> Jerry

I already sent them the info from my post on May 25th.
I requested they replace the bad files in the zips.
I do not know if they will.

James Davis
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #395158 is a reply to message #395126] Sat, 30 May 2020 17:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
D Finnigan is currently offline  D Finnigan
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James Davis wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 10:46:45 PM UTC-7, awanderin wrote:
>> How does one go about telling asimov about bad files?
>> Jerry
>
> I already sent them the info from my post on May 25th.
> I requested they replace the bad files in the zips.
> I do not know if they will.
>

HIs name is Patrick M. Kane, not "they" or "them."
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #395167 is a reply to message #395158] Sat, 30 May 2020 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 10:46:45 PM UTC-7, awanderin wrote:
>>> How does one go about telling asimov

> HIs name is Patrick M. Kane, not "they" or "them."

This is the first time I’ve ever seen a name. I was under the impression
they wanted to be anonymous.
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #395269 is a reply to message #395167] Tue, 02 June 2020 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Andrew Roughan wrote:
> D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 10:46:45 PM UTC-7, awanderin wrote:
>>>> How does one go about telling asimov
>
>> HIs name is Patrick M. Kane, not "they" or "them."
>
> This is the first time I’ve ever seen a name. I was under the impression
> they wanted to be anonymous.
>

Asimov has been online since the 1990s and Mr. Kane used to post fairly
regularly to this newsgroup. Here is one selected at random, dated August
1998: https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1&id=150207#msg


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The New Apple II User's Guide:
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Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #395463 is a reply to message #395269] Sat, 06 June 2020 00:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: James Davis

I am also under the impression they want to be anonymous.
I have always thought of Asimov [{ftp}!{public.asimov.net}pub}apple_II}] as a site on a computer sever somewhere in Germany that is maintained by more than one person/sysop. Or that it was originally created by Isaac Asimov, the author of many scientific & science fiction books.
Re: Two Different Integer BASIC E8 ROM images 2005 vs 2010 [message #395464 is a reply to message #394826] Sat, 06 June 2020 00:52 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: James Davis

I am also under the impression they want to be anonymous. I have always thought of Asimov <ftp://public.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/> as a site on a computer sever somewhere in Germany that is maintained by more than one person/sysop. Or that it was originally created by Isaac Asimov, the author of many scientific & science fiction books.
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