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Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393181] Mon, 27 April 2020 22:25 Go to next message
Sky King is currently offline  Sky King
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I am in need of suggestions as to how to clean years of accumulated gunk
from between the keys of an Apple keyboard, model A1049. I've heard or read
that keyboards can be put in the top rack of a dishwasher, but that doesn't
sound so good to me, as this model has a permanently attached USB cord.

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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393182 is a reply to message #393181] Mon, 27 April 2020 23:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I’ve cleaned hundreds of older pre-“Chiclet” Apple keyboards over the years, including the A1048, which is what I think yours is.

First, use a plastic spudger to pop off all the keys. Be careful, some have metal positioning pieces clipped underneath. Put all the keys in a tall CD spindle cover or similar container, add some liquid dish soap and warm water. Stir then let soak for a while. Stir some more, then dump the soapy water, refill with clean warm water and repeat until you’re happy. Be careful you don’t lose keys down the drain. Drain the water, then dump the keys onto a towel and dry them one by one. Keep some isopropyl alcohol handy in case there’s some greasy grime that needs special attention. There will be some water trapped in the hollow pegs that snap into the keyboard, so I usually tap each key on a hard surface to get rid of it.

Second, dismantle the keyboard if there’s junk inside the clear plastic bottom cover. There are three tiny Phillips screws that hold the key “tray” to the bottom case. Remove them. On the bottom of the keyboard case are three more teeny Allen head screws that hold the bottom to the innards. Remove them.

Third, flip over the keyboard and the innards should come loose from the clear plastic base. You’ll see more screws that hold the USB wiring to the case as well as the USB wiring cover to the back. Remove them.

Fourth, be very careful not to get any liquids on the Mylar sheets that sandwich the printed circuits sheet; that moisture will ruin the fragile circuits. (If you do, it’s possible to use an automotive rear window defogger repair kit to renew the circuits. Been there, had to do that.) You can leave the Mylar sheets in place and carefully clean the usually filthy top side of the white plastic board the keys pop into, or you can totally disassemble that assembly.

NOTE: If the clear plastic bottom is clean and junk-free, I usually leave the keyless assembly as Apple first put it together, but carefully use Q-tips dampened with isopropyl alcohol and a toothbrush to get all the dust, crumbs, hair, coffee/soda spills and whatnot out exposed by removing the keys. Sometimes I even remove that little white piece around the left/right, up/down keys if I can’t clean under it. But if there’s all kind of junk inside the clear bottom, a full disassembly is in order.

Fifth. carefully reinstall everything in the right order. Keep another Apple keyboard around so you get the keys back in the correct places. (Another hard-learned lesson.) If you disassemble the bottom part, be very careful to get the USB cable securely back in place. Sometimes it might be necessary to put more of the sheathed cable inside the case in order to re-cover the tiny little wires exposed by *someone* pulling on the cable too hard.

CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once. Talk about throw-away technology! What I do with “Chiclet” keyboards to keep them clean is to remove batteries or turn them off and wipe them down with a microfiber cloth dampened with isopropyl alcohol. Note the use of “dampened”. You don’t want to use too much isopropyl alcohol, which usually has 10-30 percent water content, and short out the keyboard. I also regularly turn off/remove batteries from “Chiclet” keyboards and tap them lightly on the desktop while holding them upside down, between total wipe-downs. Amazing how much stuff gets inside them.

Whatever you do, do not put your keyboard in the dishwasher. It will come out clean, sort of, and it will be ruined. Good luck.

Jim Scott
Eureka, CA


> On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Sky King <mcmurtreyjames@twc.com> wrote:
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> I am in need of suggestions as to how to clean years of accumulated gunk from between the keys of an Apple keyboard, model A1049. I've heard or read that keyboards can be put in the top rack of a dishwasher, but that doesn't sound so good to me, as this model has a permanently attached USB cord.
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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393183 is a reply to message #393182] Tue, 28 April 2020 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 27, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Jim Scott <jescott3@gmail.com<mailto:jescott3@gmail.com>> wrote:

CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once.

What I’ve done with mine is: Remove the batteries if it’s a wireless model dampen a paper towel with a little Formula 409 cleaner HOLD THE KEYBOARD UPSIDE DOWN, and gently wipe the keys clean. If you want you can follow that with a similar wipe of a paper towel dampened with isopropyl alcohol, then with it STILL upside down place it on a couple folded paper towels to blot off any remaining liquid. Works pretty well, I’ve not killed one yet and I've been using those keyboards for years now using this method. The key is making sure it’s upside down the whole time so fluid doesn’t get into the keyboard.

This also works with Mac laptops as well, albeit a but more clumsily.

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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393184 is a reply to message #393183] Tue, 28 April 2020 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What I've done with older keyboards is to use "canned air," (which actually is a compressed inert gas), by just blowing the snot out of 'em. Some of that gas does liquify in that process but since it's inert no harm comes out of it and the job gets done.

Regarding the more modern aluminum keyboards, the same applies except that the "cleaning" as you described is limited as is accumulated dust/debris within. I think that once something goes wrong with these units, there is little in the way of options for recovery remedies....

JT




> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote:
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> On Apr 27, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Jim Scott <jescott3@gmail.com <mailto:jescott3@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once.
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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393185 is a reply to message #393182] Tue, 28 April 2020 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Many thanks! Great instructions. I don't know where I saw/read the
recommendation to put the keyboard in the dishwasher, but I was
skeptical of it from the get-go.

Nice to see this group is still alive.

Michael McMurtrey
Carrollton, Texas


On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Jim Scott wrote:

> I’ve cleaned hundreds of older pre-“Chiclet” Apple keyboards over
> the years, including the A1048, which is what I think yours is.
>
> First, use a plastic spudger to pop off all the keys. Be careful,
> some have metal positioning pieces clipped underneath. Put all the
> keys in a tall CD spindle cover or similar container, add some
> liquid dish soap and warm water. Stir then let soak for a while.
> Stir some more, then dump the soapy water, refill with clean warm
> water and repeat until you’re happy. Be careful you don’t lose keys
> down the drain. Drain the water, then dump the keys onto a towel and
> dry them one by one. Keep some isopropyl alcohol handy in case
> there’s some greasy grime that needs special attention. There will
> be some water trapped in the hollow pegs that snap into the
> keyboard, so I usually tap each key on a hard surface to get rid of
> it.
>
> Second, dismantle the keyboard if there’s junk inside the clear
> plastic bottom cover. There are three tiny Phillips screws that hold
> the key “tray” to the bottom case. Remove them. On the bottom of the
> keyboard case are three more teeny Allen head screws that hold the
> bottom to the innards. Remove them.
>
> Third, flip over the keyboard and the innards should come loose from
> the clear plastic base. You’ll see more screws that hold the USB
> wiring to the case as well as the USB wiring cover to the back.
> Remove them.
>
> Fourth, be very careful not to get any liquids on the Mylar sheets
> that sandwich the printed circuits sheet; that moisture will ruin
> the fragile circuits. (If you do, it’s possible to use an automotive
> rear window defogger repair kit to renew the circuits. Been there,
> had to do that.) You can leave the Mylar sheets in place and
> carefully clean the usually filthy top side of the white plastic
> board the keys pop into, or you can totally disassemble that assembly.
>
> NOTE: If the clear plastic bottom is clean and junk-free, I usually
> leave the keyless assembly as Apple first put it together, but
> carefully use Q-tips dampened with isopropyl alcohol and a
> toothbrush to get all the dust, crumbs, hair, coffee/soda spills and
> whatnot out exposed by removing the keys. Sometimes I even remove
> that little white piece around the left/right, up/down keys if I
> can’t clean under it. But if there’s all kind of junk inside the
> clear bottom, a full disassembly is in order.
>
> Fifth. carefully reinstall everything in the right order. Keep
> another Apple keyboard around so you get the keys back in the
> correct places. (Another hard-learned lesson.) If you disassemble
> the bottom part, be very careful to get the USB cable securely back
> in place. Sometimes it might be necessary to put more of the
> sheathed cable inside the case in order to re-cover the tiny little
> wires exposed by *someone* pulling on the cable too hard.
>
> CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned
> basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards
> with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s
> impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting
> the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once. Talk
> about throw-away technology! What I do with “Chiclet” keyboards to
> keep them clean is to remove batteries or turn them off and wipe
> them down with a microfiber cloth dampened with isopropyl alcohol.
> Note the use of “dampened”. You don’t want to use too much isopropyl
> alcohol, which usually has 10-30 percent water content, and short
> out the keyboard. I also regularly turn off/remove batteries from
> “Chiclet” keyboards and tap them lightly on the desktop while
> holding them upside down, between total wipe-downs. Amazing how much
> stuff gets inside them.
>
> Whatever you do, do not put your keyboard in the dishwasher. It will
> come out clean, sort of, and it will be ruined. Good luck.
>
> Jim Scott
> Eureka, CA
>
>
>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Sky King <mcmurtreyjames@twc.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am in need of suggestions as to how to clean years of accumulated
>> gunk from between the keys of an Apple keyboard, model A1049. I've
>> heard or read that keyboards can be put in the top rack of a
>> dishwasher, but that doesn't sound so good to me, as this model has
>> a permanently attached USB cord.
>>
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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393186 is a reply to message #393183] Tue, 28 April 2020 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's a wired model. Model A1048, to be exact. I think I first called
it an A1049.

This thing has so much accumulated grunge that it's going to have to
be disassembled to clean it. And I will be sure to photograph it first
so I get all the keys back where they belong!


Michael McMurtrey
Carrollton, Texas



On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> On Apr 27, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Jim Scott <jescott3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned
>> basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards
>> with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s
>> impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting
>> the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once.
>
>
> What I’ve done with mine is: Remove the batteries if it’s a wireless
> model dampen a paper towel with a little Formula 409 cleaner HOLD
> THE KEYBOARD UPSIDE DOWN, and gently wipe the keys clean. If you
> want you can follow that with a similar wipe of a paper towel
> dampened with isopropyl alcohol, then with it STILL upside down
> place it on a couple folded paper towels to blot off any remaining
> liquid. Works pretty well, I’ve not killed one yet and I've been
> using those keyboards for years now using this method. The key is
> making sure it’s upside down the whole time so fluid doesn’t get
> into the keyboard.
>
> This also works with Mac laptops as well, albeit a but more clumsily.
>
> --
> Bruce Johnson
> University of Arizona
> College of Pharmacy
> Information Technology Group
>
> Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
>
>
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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393187 is a reply to message #393185] Tue, 28 April 2020 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have put keyboards in the dishwasher before, and it worked fine. And I used to work in a computer store (that sold only Apple computers) and all of us techs did it. Now, granted, that was a long time ago, so I don't know for a fact that contemporary dishwashers aren't too hot, or that new designs of Apple keyboards would stand up to it (I tend to be wary of that). But just to clear up the myth that you "absolutely can't" wash (at least some) keyboards in a dishwasher, that's simply not true. 
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 12:57:25 PM MDT, Michael McMurtrey <mcmurtreyjames@twc.com> wrote:

Many thanks! Great instructions. I don't know where I saw/read the 
recommendation to put the keyboard in the dishwasher, but I was 
skeptical of it from the get-go.

Nice to see this group is still alive.

Michael McMurtrey
Carrollton, Texas


On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Jim Scott wrote:

> I’ve cleaned hundreds of older pre-“Chiclet” Apple keyboards over 
> the years, including the A1048, which is what I think yours is.
>
> First, use a plastic spudger to pop off all the keys. Be careful, 
> some have metal positioning pieces clipped underneath. Put all the 
> keys in a tall CD spindle cover or similar container, add some 
> liquid dish soap and warm water. Stir then let soak for a while. 
> Stir some more, then dump the soapy water, refill with clean warm 
> water and repeat until you’re happy. Be careful you don’t lose keys 
> down the drain. Drain the water, then dump the keys onto a towel and 
> dry them one by one. Keep some isopropyl alcohol handy in case 
> there’s some greasy grime that needs special attention. There will 
> be some water trapped in the hollow pegs that snap into the 
> keyboard, so I usually tap each key on a hard surface to get rid of 
> it.
>
> Second, dismantle the keyboard if there’s junk inside the clear 
> plastic bottom cover. There are three tiny Phillips screws that hold 
> the key “tray” to the bottom case. Remove them. On the bottom of the 
> keyboard case are three more teeny Allen head screws that hold the 
> bottom to the innards. Remove them.
>
> Third, flip over the keyboard and the innards should come loose from 
> the clear plastic base. You’ll see more screws that hold the USB 
> wiring to the case as well as the USB wiring cover to the back. 
> Remove them.
>
> Fourth, be very careful not to get any liquids on the Mylar sheets 
> that sandwich the printed circuits sheet; that moisture will ruin 
> the fragile circuits. (If you do, it’s possible to use an automotive 
> rear window defogger repair kit to renew the circuits. Been there, 
> had to do that.) You can leave the Mylar sheets in place and 
> carefully clean the usually filthy top side of the white plastic 
> board the keys pop into, or you can totally disassemble that assembly.
>
> NOTE: If the clear plastic bottom is clean and junk-free, I usually 
> leave the keyless assembly as Apple first put it together, but 
> carefully use Q-tips dampened with isopropyl alcohol and a 
> toothbrush to get all the dust, crumbs, hair, coffee/soda spills and 
> whatnot out exposed by removing the keys. Sometimes I even remove 
> that little white piece around the left/right, up/down keys if I 
> can’t clean under it. But if there’s all kind of junk inside the 
> clear bottom, a full disassembly is in order.
>
> Fifth. carefully reinstall everything in the right order. Keep 
> another Apple keyboard around so you get the keys back in the 
> correct places. (Another hard-learned lesson.) If you disassemble 
> the bottom part, be very careful to get the USB cable securely back 
> in place. Sometimes it might be necessary to put more of the 
> sheathed cable inside the case in order to re-cover the tiny little 
> wires exposed by *someone* pulling on the cable too hard.
>
> CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned 
> basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards 
> with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s 
> impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting 
> the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once. Talk 
> about throw-away technology! What I do with “Chiclet” keyboards to 
> keep them clean is to remove batteries or turn them off and wipe 
> them down with a microfiber cloth dampened with isopropyl alcohol. 
> Note the use of “dampened”. You don’t want to use too much isopropyl 
> alcohol, which usually has 10-30 percent water content, and short 
> out the keyboard. I also regularly turn off/remove batteries from 
> “Chiclet” keyboards and tap them lightly on the desktop while 
> holding them upside down, between total wipe-downs. Amazing how much 
> stuff gets inside them.
>
> Whatever you do, do not put your keyboard in the dishwasher. It will 
> come out clean, sort of, and it will be ruined. Good luck.
>
> Jim Scott
> Eureka, CA
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>> gunk from between the keys of an Apple keyboard, model A1049. I've 
>> heard or read that keyboards can be put in the top rack of a 
>> dishwasher, but that doesn't sound so good to me, as this model has 
>> a permanently attached USB cord.
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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393188 is a reply to message #393184] Tue, 28 April 2020 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's what we used to use in our repair department in the Apple-only computer store I worked in years and years ago. It does work pretty great, without doing an extremely time-consuming (and, I think, a bit unnecessary, unless you're OCD!) complete disassembly of a keyboard. Also? Don't eat and drink in front of your computer, and dust your keyboard regularly (or keep a dust cover over it when you're not using your computer)!
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 10:52:27 AM MDT, James Therrault <mjrtassoc@gmail.com> wrote:

What I've done with older keyboards is to use "canned air," (which actually is a compressed inert gas), by just blowing the snot out of 'em. Some of that gas does liquify in that  process but since it's inert no harm comes out of it and the job gets done.
Regarding the more modern aluminum keyboards, the same applies except that the "cleaning" as you described is limited as is accumulated dust/debris within. I think that once something goes wrong with these units, there is little in the way of options for recovery remedies....
JT




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On Apr 27, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Jim Scott <jescott3@gmail.com> wrote:


CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once.

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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393189 is a reply to message #393184] Tue, 28 April 2020 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This thing is so grungy it's gonna have to be swabbed in a biohazard
isolation tent. Canned air won't loosen the many particles of cookies,
cakes, pies, crackers, etc., that have found their way into all the
nooks and crannies. I've tried it.

Michael McMurtrey
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> What I've done with older keyboards is to use "canned air," (which
> actually is a compressed inert gas), by just blowing the snot out of
> 'em. Some of that gas does liquify in that process but since it's
> inert no harm comes out of it and the job gets done.
>
> Regarding the more modern aluminum keyboards, the same applies
> except that the "cleaning" as you described is limited as is
> accumulated dust/debris within. I think that once something goes
> wrong with these units, there is little in the way of options for
> recovery remedies....
>
> JT
>
>
>
>
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU
>>> wrote:
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>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Jim Scott <jescott3@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned
>>> basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards
>>> with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom.
>>> It’s impossible to take those apart without melting keys or
>>> distorting the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than
>>> once.
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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393190 is a reply to message #393189] Tue, 28 April 2020 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For a keyboard like that, you have three options: 1) Dishwasher (if it's the type that can be cleaned that way—the thing is to make sure it's ABSOLUTELY bone-dry before using it again); 2) Total disassembly and painstaking detailed cleaning; or 3) Buy a new keyboard! 
You must eat and drink at your keyboard, I'm guessing...lol
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 02:45:29 PM MDT, Michael McMurtrey <mcmurtreyjames@twc.com> wrote:

This thing is so grungy it's gonna have to be swabbed in a biohazard isolation tent. Canned air won't loosen the many particles of cookies, cakes, pies, crackers, etc., that have found their way into all the nooks and crannies. I've tried it.
Michael McMurtreyCarrollton, Texas


On Apr 28, 2020, at 11:45 AM, James Therrault wrote:


What I've done with older keyboards is to use "canned air," (which actually is a compressed inert gas), by just blowing the snot out of 'em. Some of that gas does liquify in that  process but since it's inert no harm comes out of it and the job gets done.
Regarding the more modern aluminum keyboards, the same applies except that the "cleaning" as you described is limited as is accumulated dust/debris within. I think that once something goes wrong with these units, there is little in the way of options for recovery remedies....
JT




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On Apr 27, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Jim Scott <jescott3@gmail.com> wrote:


CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once.

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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393191 is a reply to message #393186] Tue, 28 April 2020 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I’ve always used the keyboard viewer when putting the keys back on.

System Preferences - > Keyboard -> Keyboard Tab -> check Show Keyboard, Emoji & Symbol Viewers in menu bar
Then menu bar -> keyboard menu -> Show Keyboard Viewer

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Michael McMurtrey <mcmurtreyjames@twc.com> wrote:
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> It's a wired model. Model A1048, to be exact. I think I first called it an A1049.
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> This thing has so much accumulated grunge that it's going to have to be disassembled to clean it. And I will be sure to photograph it first so I get all the keys back where they belong!



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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393192 is a reply to message #393191] Tue, 28 April 2020 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The trick is remembering where the keys are to log onto the computer to see the Keyboard Viewer 8-P

On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Clark Martin <cmmac@sonic.net<mailto:cmmac@sonic.net>> wrote:

I’ve always used the keyboard viewer when putting the keys back on.

System Preferences - > Keyboard -> Keyboard Tab -> check Show Keyboard, Emoji & Symbol Viewers in menu bar
Then menu bar -> keyboard menu -> Show Keyboard Viewer

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On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Michael McMurtrey <mcmurtreyjames@twc.com<mailto:mcmurtreyjames@twc.com>> wrote:

It's a wired model. Model A1048, to be exact. I think I first called it an A1049.

This thing has so much accumulated grunge that it's going to have to be disassembled to clean it. And I will be sure to photograph it first so I get all the keys back where they belong!




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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393193 is a reply to message #393190] Tue, 28 April 2020 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:03 PM, 'Bryan Roth' via G-Group wrote:

> You must eat and drink at your keyboard, I'm guessing...lol

Guilty!

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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393194 is a reply to message #393193] Tue, 28 April 2020 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There ya go, then...lol
It's hard not to, if you work on the computer. 
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On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:03 PM, 'Bryan Roth' via G-Group wrote:

You must eat and drink at your keyboard, I'm guessing...lol

Guilty!
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Re: Cleaning computer keyboard [message #393195 is a reply to message #393192] Tue, 28 April 2020 23:11 Go to previous message
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I have more than one keyboard, several more.


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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote:
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> The trick is remembering where the keys are to log onto the computer to see the Keyboard Viewer 8-P
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>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Clark Martin <cmmac@sonic.net <mailto:cmmac@sonic.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I’ve always used the keyboard viewer when putting the keys back on.
>>
>> System Preferences - > Keyboard -> Keyboard Tab -> check Show Keyboard, Emoji & Symbol Viewers in menu bar
>> Then menu bar -> keyboard menu -> Show Keyboard Viewer
>>

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