| Guru Meditation [message #387344] |
Wed, 25 September 2019 13:49  |
Peter Flass
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Interestingly, I got this message the other day on a (non-computer) website
I was trying to look at the other day. Maybe it was so slow because they
were running the server on an Amiga?
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Pete
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387345 is a reply to message #387344] |
Wed, 25 September 2019 13:58  |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:49:20 -0700, Peter Flass
<peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Interestingly, I got this message the other day on a (non-computer) website
> I was trying to look at the other day. Maybe it was so slow because they
> were running the server on an Amiga?
Amiga computer is the first thing I thought of when I saw the subject
line.
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Jim
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387346 is a reply to message #387344] |
Wed, 25 September 2019 14:24 |
Quadibloc
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On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 11:49:21 AM UTC-6, Peter Flass wrote:
> Interestingly, I got this message the other day on a (non-computer) website
> I was trying to look at the other day. Maybe it was so slow because they
> were running the server on an Amiga?
Maybe they were. I know that there is a company that bought the rights to the
Amiga, and is making contemporary machines based on PowerPC chips... so it could
well be that something at least called an Amiga could host a web site.
John Savard
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387352 is a reply to message #387347] |
Wed, 25 September 2019 15:46 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 11:49:21 AM UTC-6, Peter Flass wrote:
>> Interestingly, I got this message the other day on a (non-computer) website
>> I was trying to look at the other day. Maybe it was so slow because they
>> were running the server on an Amiga?
>
> It could happen:
>
> https://www.amigaos.net/software/77/aamp-apache-mysql-php
>
> John Savard
Fascinating.
I found my old Amiga computers, trying to find time to clear up my
storage shed, and replace all the cheapo electrolytics in them.
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Jim
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387353 is a reply to message #387344] |
Wed, 25 September 2019 16:18 |
Andreas Kohlbach
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:49:20 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
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> Interestingly, I got this message the other day on a (non-computer) website
> I was trying to look at the other day. Maybe it was so slow because they
> were running the server on an Amiga?
By chance I put a Guru Meditation GIF on my Amiga MOD web page. May be
you were visiting it? What URL has this web page?
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Andreas
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387361 is a reply to message #387353] |
Wed, 25 September 2019 20:30 |
Peter Flass
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Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:49:20 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
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>> Interestingly, I got this message the other day on a (non-computer) website
>> I was trying to look at the other day. Maybe it was so slow because they
>> were running the server on an Amiga?
>
> By chance I put a Guru Meditation GIF on my Amiga MOD web page. May be
> you were visiting it? What URL has this web page?
https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/
Probably not you
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Pete
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387392 is a reply to message #387344] |
Thu, 26 September 2019 23:07 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2019-09-26, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:30:17 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
>>
>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
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>>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:49:20 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, I got this message the other day on a (non-computer) website
>>>> I was trying to look at the other day. Maybe it was so slow because they
>>>> were running the server on an Amiga?
>>>
>>> By chance I put a Guru Meditation GIF on my Amiga MOD web page. May be
>>> you were visiting it? What URL has this web page?
>>
>> https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/
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> Thanks. I don't see any there.
At one time, some local cable stations used Amigas, and occasionally
you'd see a Guru Meditation on your TV screen.
The most recent sighting for me is in xscreensaver's "BSOD" hack.
At an early computer animation film festival, one film was
titled "Dance of the (s)tumblers" (the background music was
the Rimsky-Korsakov piece of the same name). It was produced
on an Amiga, in good old 320x200 graphics, and was rather
clever. At the end the dancing figures were crushed by a
falling Guru Meditation box. The error number was:
THX1138.2001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bQJu97qxLw
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387406 is a reply to message #387392] |
Fri, 27 September 2019 16:34 |
Andreas Kohlbach
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On 27 Sep 2019 03:07:52 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
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> On 2019-09-26, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
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>>> https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/
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>> Thanks. I don't see any there.
>
> At one time, some local cable stations used Amigas, and occasionally
> you'd see a Guru Meditation on your TV screen.
>
> The most recent sighting for me is in xscreensaver's "BSOD" hack.
>
> At an early computer animation film festival, one film was
> titled "Dance of the (s)tumblers" (the background music was
> the Rimsky-Korsakov piece of the same name). It was produced
> on an Amiga, in good old 320x200 graphics, and was rather
> clever. At the end the dancing figures were crushed by a
> falling Guru Meditation box. The error number was:
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> THX1138.2001
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bQJu97qxLw
Thanks, interesting.
Talking about early computer animations. Anybody knows the Canadian made
video "La faim/The hunger" from 1973
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqMKy74HKXs>? Got to be one of the
earliest productions using computer animation, if not the first made public.
--
Andreas
My random thoughts and comments
https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387414 is a reply to message #387406] |
Fri, 27 September 2019 22:00 |
Alfred Falk
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Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote in
news:87y2y9cwbx.fsf@usenet.ankman.de:
> On 27 Sep 2019 03:07:52 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
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>
> Talking about early computer animations. Anybody knows the Canadian
> made video "La faim/The hunger" from 1973
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqMKy74HKXs>? Got to be one of the
> earliest
> productions using computer animation, if not the first made public.
IIRC, I saw the computer at NRC used for the animation. It might have been
a PDP-9, but I'm not sure. It had a similar appearance.
The keyframe animation system developed at NRC was used for CBC's "The
National" opening graphics of the day. The music was composed on the same
system. It was also produced the evolution animations in Bronowski's
"The Ascent of Man" TV series.
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387417 is a reply to message #387414] |
Sat, 28 September 2019 08:24 |
Quadibloc
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On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:00:44 PM UTC-6, Alfred Falk wrote:
> IIRC, I saw the computer at NRC used for the animation. It might have been
> a PDP-9, but I'm not sure. It had a similar appearance.
> The keyframe animation system developed at NRC was used for CBC's "The
> National" opening graphics of the day. The music was composed on the same
> system. It was also produced the evolution animations in Bronowski's
> "The Ascent of Man" TV series.
A Google search let me find this video on the work of Burtnyk and Wein:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOoanxleZo0
John Savard
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387418 is a reply to message #387417] |
Sat, 28 September 2019 09:06 |
Quadibloc
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On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 6:24:50 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:00:44 PM UTC-6, Alfred Falk wrote:
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>> IIRC, I saw the computer at NRC used for the animation. It might have been
>> a PDP-9, but I'm not sure. It had a similar appearance.
>> The keyframe animation system developed at NRC was used for CBC's "The
>> National" opening graphics of the day. The music was composed on the same
>> system. It was also produced the evolution animations in Bronowski's
>> "The Ascent of Man" TV series.
>
> A Google search let me find this video on the work of Burtnyk and Wein:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOoanxleZo0
There is a glimpse of a computer at the beginning of the film.
I couldn't tell what the computer was; it looked like it might have been one of
these three possibilities:
Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 72
Lockheed SUE
Harris Series 500
The display is by Information Displays Incorporated, and an article about
Burtnyk and Wein noted that a point-plotting display by that company was the
center of their system.
The first system by IDI was the IDIIOM and it was built around a Varian Data
Systems 620/i minicomputer, clearly not the one seen in the film. A (much) later
system by that company, not early enough to be around in 1971, used a Sperry
Univac V77-600 minicomputer.
John Savard
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387419 is a reply to message #387418] |
Sat, 28 September 2019 09:28 |
Quadibloc
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On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 7:06:22 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 6:24:50 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:00:44 PM UTC-6, Alfred Falk wrote:
>>> IIRC, I saw the computer at NRC used for the animation. It might have been
>>> a PDP-9, but I'm not sure. It had a similar appearance.
>>> The keyframe animation system developed at NRC was used for CBC's "The
>>> National" opening graphics of the day. The music was composed on the same
>>> system. It was also produced the evolution animations in Bronowski's
>>> "The Ascent of Man" TV series.
>> A Google search let me find this video on the work of Burtnyk and Wein:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOoanxleZo0
> There is a glimpse of a computer at the beginning of the film.
> I couldn't tell what the computer was; it looked like it might have been one of
> these three possibilities:
> Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 72
> Lockheed SUE
> Harris Series 500
At the very end of the film, as a third person walks in to join the two
researchers, we see that the computer is not any of the three possibilities I
considered. Instead of fitting in a 19-inch rack, it is wider, about as wide as
a PDP-9, although it definitely isn't a PDP-9.
John Savard
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387421 is a reply to message #387406] |
Sat, 28 September 2019 11:26 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 16:34:26 -0400, Andreas Kohlbach
<ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2019 03:07:52 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-09-26, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/
>>>
>>> Thanks. I don't see any there.
>>
>> At one time, some local cable stations used Amigas, and occasionally
>> you'd see a Guru Meditation on your TV screen.
>>
>> The most recent sighting for me is in xscreensaver's "BSOD" hack.
>>
>> At an early computer animation film festival, one film was
>> titled "Dance of the (s)tumblers" (the background music was
>> the Rimsky-Korsakov piece of the same name). It was produced
>> on an Amiga, in good old 320x200 graphics, and was rather
>> clever. At the end the dancing figures were crushed by a
>> falling Guru Meditation box. The error number was:
>>
>> THX1138.2001
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bQJu97qxLw
>
> Thanks, interesting.
>
> Talking about early computer animations. Anybody knows the Canadian made
> video "La faim/The hunger" from 1973
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqMKy74HKXs>? Got to be one of the
> earliest productions using computer animation, if not the first made public.
A few days ago one of the tv channels, I think it was TCM, showed a
documentary on the guy who drew the original Gertie the Dinosaur
cartoon. Along with Little Nemo.
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Jim
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387423 is a reply to message #387419] |
Sat, 28 September 2019 13:33 |
Alfred Falk
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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
news:b6f53419-a90a-4bc4-be3f-e6499438fda8@googlegroups.com:
> On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 7:06:22 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 6:24:50 AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:00:44 PM UTC-6, Alfred Falk
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> IIRC, I saw the computer at NRC used for the animation. It might
>>>> have been a PDP-9, but I'm not sure. It had a similar appearance.
>>>> The keyframe animation system developed at NRC was used for CBC's
>>>> "The National" opening graphics of the day. The music was
>>>> composed on the same system. It was also produced the evolution
>>>> animations in Bronowski's "The Ascent of Man" TV series.
>
>>> A Google search let me find this video on the work of Burtnyk and
>>> Wein:
>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOoanxleZo0
>
>> There is a glimpse of a computer at the beginning of the film.
>
>> I couldn't tell what the computer was; it looked like it might have
>> been one of these three possibilities:
>
>> Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 72
>> Lockheed SUE
>> Harris Series 500
>
> At the very end of the film, as a third person walks in to join the two
> researchers, we see that the computer is not any of the three
> possibilities I considered. Instead of fitting in a 19-inch rack, it is
> wider, about as wide as a PDP-9, although it definitely isn't a PDP-9.
Right. The image in my wet memory system was something about the size of a
9, but without the coloured panels. Thanks for pointing out that video.
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387426 is a reply to message #387423] |
Sat, 28 September 2019 14:44 |
Quadibloc
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On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 11:33:30 AM UTC-6, Alfred Falk wrote:
> Right. The image in my wet memory system was something about the size of a
> 9, but without the coloured panels. Thanks for pointing out that video.
I'm glad I could help. I am now thinking that the computer was most likely a Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 840 or SEL 840A computer.
John Savard
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387442 is a reply to message #387418] |
Sun, 29 September 2019 15:01 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2019-09-28, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> The first system by IDI was the IDIIOM and it was built around a Varian Data
> Systems 620/i minicomputer, clearly not the one seen in the film. A (much)
> later system by that company, not early enough to be around in 1971, used
> a Sperry Univac V77-600 minicomputer.
That makes sense. When Varian decided to get out of computers, they sold
their computer division to Sperry-Univac, who re-branded the line to V77.
I have a couple of reference cards around here somewhere.
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387443 is a reply to message #387406] |
Sun, 29 September 2019 15:01 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2019-09-27, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> Talking about early computer animations. Anybody knows the Canadian made
> video "La faim/The hunger" from 1973
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqMKy74HKXs> ? Got to be one of the
> earliest productions using computer animation, if not the first made public.
Brilliant. We always loved those NFB productions.
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\ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way.
X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855.
/ \ "Alexa, define 'bugging'."
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387472 is a reply to message #387414] |
Mon, 30 September 2019 15:08 |
Andreas Kohlbach
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 02:00:43 -0000 (UTC), Alfred Falk wrote:
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> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote in
> news:87y2y9cwbx.fsf@usenet.ankman.de:
>
>> On 27 Sep 2019 03:07:52 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Talking about early computer animations. Anybody knows the Canadian
>> made video "La faim/The hunger" from 1973
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqMKy74HKXs>? Got to be one of the
>> earliest
>> productions using computer animation, if not the first made public.
>
> IIRC, I saw the computer at NRC used for the animation. It might have been
> a PDP-9, but I'm not sure. It had a similar appearance.
> The keyframe animation system developed at NRC was used for CBC's "The
> National" opening graphics of the day. The music was composed on the same
> system. It was also produced the evolution animations in Bronowski's
> "The Ascent of Man" TV series.
Was asking in the German folklore group and they say it a SEL 840A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPIE_h8jf6E
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Andreas
My random thoughts and comments
https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387474 is a reply to message #387472] |
Tue, 01 October 2019 01:35 |
Quadibloc
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On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 1:08:50 PM UTC-6, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> Was asking in the German folklore group and they say it a SEL 840A.
Wow! So my guess was right!
John Savard
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| Re: Guru Meditation [message #387545 is a reply to message #387474] |
Fri, 04 October 2019 15:58 |
Quadibloc
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On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 11:35:03 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 1:08:50 PM UTC-6, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> Was asking in the German folklore group and they say it a SEL 840A.
>
> Wow! So my guess was right!
I have now found a documentary source, a PDF by Bill Buxton - who posted the video on his YouTube account as well.
https://www.billbuxton.com/MyVision.pdf
So indeed it is an SEL 840A. With 8K words of memory.
John Savard
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