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Sleep issue [message #32668] Thu, 10 January 2013 22:59 Go to next message
dianed143 is currently offline  dianed143
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I have a DP 1.42 G4 running the latest version of 10.5

Since Christmas, it has been going to sleep every 15 mins of unuse, unless I have the widgets open. FWIW I've always has the sleep settings turned on but they rarely work.

So it's been over two weeks and its been working like a charm. No freezing or anything. I've been using it a lot during this time as well. The only thing I have to so is five it time to allow the BT mouse to resync. Yesterday I plugged in my Shuffle to recharge and ever since then it hasn't gone to sleep. I thought maybe iTunes kept it awake but that's not the case.

Any thoughts? I've had it since new and its always been like this. The monitor sleep works correctly though. I replaced the power supply about two years ago.

Thanks
Diane

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Re: Sleep issue [message #32670 is a reply to message #32668] Fri, 11 January 2013 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:59 PM, dianed143@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a DP 1.42 G4 running the latest version of 10.5

>

> Since Christmas, it has been going to sleep every 15 mins of unuse,

> unless I have the widgets open. FWIW I've always has the sleep

> settings turned on but they rarely work.

>

> So it's been over two weeks and its been working like a charm. No

> freezing or anything. I've been using it a lot during this time as

> well. The only thing I have to so is five it time to allow the BT

> mouse to resync. Yesterday I plugged in my Shuffle to recharge and

> ever since then it hasn't gone to sleep. I thought maybe iTunes kept

> it awake but that's not the case.

>

> Any thoughts? I've had it since new and its always been like this.

> The monitor sleep works correctly though. I replaced the power

> supply about two years ago.

>

> Thanks

> Diane



Hello Diane:

One, I assume you have set the energy control panel to never sleep,
closed Preferences, open Preferences, reset sleep setting. This can
over write bad preference settings. You can also find the energy
control panel settings cache (with other personal account cached
settings in "your account name/Library/Caches/
com.apple.preferencepanes.cache") and delete them. Preferences need
to be reentered.

Two, PRAM (Apple key, Option key, P, R at the same time on computer
start from computer off) and Power Manager reset. PMU reset proceeds
as: Turn computer off, wait ten seconds, pull plug, pull ALL wires
from computer, open case, find small Surface Mount Device (SMU) button
labeled PMU on motherboard next to two ATA cable attachments to
motherboard. Leave battery in motherboard. Wait five minutes or so.
Press button ONCE firmly and release immediately, same as when you use
the power button to start the computer. Attach power cable, keyboard,
video. Start. If the computer will not start, repeat PMU reset
procedure, but try to press the button more quickly. You may need to
reset PRAM after this to get complete start.

You can also try to find the procedure on the web, but I didn't find
any specific for the MDD. What I have given you worked for my MDD.

Good luck!

Bob

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Re: Sleep issue [message #37056 is a reply to message #32670] Wed, 13 February 2013 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM, No No <grizzledgiant1@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Diane:

>

> One, I assume you have set the energy control panel to never sleep, closed

> Preferences, open Preferences, reset sleep setting. This can over write

> bad preference settings. You can also find the energy control panel

> settings cache (with other personal account cached settings in "your

> account name/Library/Caches/com.apple.**preferencepanes.cache") and

> delete them. Preferences need to be reentered.

>

> Two, PRAM (Apple key, Option key, P, R at the same time on computer start

> from computer off) and Power Manager reset. PMU reset proceeds as: Turn

> computer off, wait ten seconds, pull plug, pull ALL wires from computer,

> open case, find small Surface Mount Device (SMU) button labeled PMU on

> motherboard next to two ATA cable attachments to motherboard. Leave

> battery in motherboard. Wait five minutes or so. Press button ONCE firmly

> and release immediately, same as when you use the power button to start the

> computer. Attach power cable, keyboard, video. Start. If the computer

> will not start, repeat PMU reset procedure, but try to press the button

> more quickly. You may need to reset PRAM after this to get complete start.

>

> You can also try to find the procedure on the web, but I didn't find any

> specific for the MDD. What I have given you worked for my MDD.

>

>

>

Hi Bob,

I had not done any of what you suggested, as it's always been like this.
But it was pretty good for over a month, except if I left it with the
dashboard up and running - maybe my radar widget prevents it from sleeping.

After I got your reply, I did try setting it to never, exiting, and
resetting it. Repaired permissions. Eventually it would sleep again.

I lost power for a few minutes one day last week and it has not gone to
sleep since <sigh>

So now I will step through the rest of your suggestions.

Again, this machine has always behaved like this since I got it 10 years
ago. As a matter of fact, if you had asked me I would have said I *don't*
have sleep turned on as it just never went to sleep at all. When it did in
December, I feared my PS was going again as that's what used to happen, I'd
leave it on overnight and it would be off in the morning due to the failing
PS. The only way to get it back on then was to unplug it and hit the power
button. This time it really was sleeping, and I kind of liked it!

Hopefully it will kick itself back in again.

Thanks!

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Re: Sleep issue [message #37917 is a reply to message #37056] Sat, 16 February 2013 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>

> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM, No No <grizzledgiant1@gmail.com>

> wrote:

> Hello Diane:

>

> One, I assume you have set the energy control panel to never sleep,

> closed Preferences, open Preferences, reset sleep setting. This can

> over write bad preference settings. You can also find the energy

> control panel settings cache (with other personal account cached

> settings in "your account name/Library/Caches/

> com.apple.preferencepanes.cache") and delete them. Preferences need

> to be reentered.

> Etc.


> Hi Bob,

>

> I had not done any of what you suggested, as it's always been like

> this. But it was pretty good for over a month, except if I left it

> with the dashboard up and running - maybe my radar widget prevents

> it from sleeping.

>

> After I got your reply, I did try setting it to never, exiting, and

> resetting it. Repaired permissions. Eventually it would sleep again.

>

> I lost power for a few minutes one day last week and it has not gone

> to sleep since <sigh>

>

> So now I will step through the rest of your suggestions.

>

> Again, this machine has always behaved like this since I got it 10

> years ago. As a matter of fact, if you had asked me I would have

> said I *don't* have sleep turned on as it just never went to sleep

> at all. When it did in December, I feared my PS was going again as

> that's what used to happen, I'd leave it on overnight and it would

> be off in the morning due to the failing PS. The only way to get it

> back on then was to unplug it and hit the power button. This time it

> really was sleeping, and I kind of liked it!

>

> Hopefully it will kick itself back in again.

>

> Thanks!


Your welcome. In the old days (15 years ago) we didn't bother with
sleep because it didn't work very well or save much power. Sleep is
really just a luxury. Off and on is usually the best way. Good luck
with your power supply.

Bob

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Re: Sleep issue [message #38017 is a reply to message #37056] Mon, 18 February 2013 00:07 Go to previous message
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On 2/13/13 6:04 PM, diane wrote:
>

> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM, No No <grizzledgiant1@gmail.com

> <mailto:grizzledgiant1@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> Hello Diane:

>

> One, I assume you have set the energy control panel to never

> sleep, closed Preferences, open Preferences, reset sleep setting.

> This can over write bad preference settings. You can also find

> the energy control panel settings cache (with other personal

> account cached settings in "your account

> name/Library/Caches/com.apple.preferencepanes.cache") and delete

> them. Preferences need to be reentered.

>

> Two, PRAM (Apple key, Option key, P, R at the same time on

> computer start from computer off) and Power Manager reset. PMU

> reset proceeds as: Turn computer off, wait ten seconds, pull

> plug, pull ALL wires from computer, open case, find small Surface

> Mount Device (SMU) button labeled PMU on motherboard next to two

> ATA cable attachments to motherboard. Leave battery in

> motherboard. Wait five minutes or so. Press button ONCE firmly

> and release immediately, same as when you use the power button to

> start the computer. Attach power cable, keyboard, video. Start.

> If the computer will not start, repeat PMU reset procedure, but

> try to press the button more quickly. You may need to reset PRAM

> after this to get complete start.

>

> You can also try to find the procedure on the web, but I didn't

> find any specific for the MDD. What I have given you worked for

> my MDD.

>

>

>

> Hi Bob,

>

> I had not done any of what you suggested, as it's always been like

> this. But it was pretty good for over a month, except if I left it

> with the dashboard up and running - maybe my radar widget prevents it

> from sleeping.

>

> After I got your reply, I did try setting it to never, exiting, and

> resetting it. Repaired permissions. Eventually it would sleep again.

>

> I lost power for a few minutes one day last week and it has not gone

> to sleep since <sigh>

>

> So now I will step through the rest of your suggestions.

>

> Again, this machine has always behaved like this since I got it 10

> years ago. As a matter of fact, if you had asked me I would have said

> I *don't* have sleep turned on as it just never went to sleep at all.

> When it did in December, I feared my PS was going again as that's what

> used to happen, I'd leave it on overnight and it would be off in the

> morning due to the failing PS. The only way to get it back on then was

> to unplug it and hit the power button. This time it really was

> sleeping, and I kind of liked it!

>

> Hopefully it will kick itself back in again.

>

>


You could ty and extend the life of the PS by powering the drives
separately. Find a AT PS (has a switch) or a external bare drive adapter
< http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063JN3WE/ref=asc_df_B0063JN3WE239 2835?smid=A2FI1E57JSSMJ2&tag=dealt361990-20&linkCode =asn&creative=395129&creativeASIN=B0063JN3WE>

and use the power supply with PS y cable adapter(s).

Samples:
SATA version
< http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/948775/StarTechcom-12i n-LP4-to-2x-SATA/
>

sata/molex
< http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001K9BEZU/ref=asc_df_B001K9BEZU239 6467?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealt361990-20&linkCode= asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B001K9BEZU>

2 molex
< http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001K9BEZU/ref=asc_df_B001K9BEZU239 6467?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealt361990-20&linkCode= asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B001K9BEZU>

these come in different ends to meet your needs.

May need to leave case door ajar. If over heating occurs use a 12 volt
fan on external power (I use a 12 volt wall wart.)

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