| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378025 is a reply to message #378018] |
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maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-12-11, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/12/2018 10:50, maus wrote:
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>>> They never changed. Driving from Dublin to Belfast, the first real notice
>>> that you are in a different country is the speed limits in MPH.
>>
>> My experience (although it may have changed) is that on driving from
>> Northern Ireland to the republic there were loads of petrol stations
>> just over the border to sell cheap petrol to the people from NI.
>>
>> So much nicer than passing through barricades and machine gun posts of old.
>>
>> Andy
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>
> yes. That us one thing that makes me very F****** angry about the present
> proposals.
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> Years ago, a man called Martin O'Donoghue made a smart proposal, do
> away with car tax and raise the money by taxing fuel, the more you
> used, the more you paid. Everyone below a certain distance of the
> Border drove North (or South, in Donegal) to fill up.
>
Shurely, even in a small island, this was a minuscule percentage of the
population. I saw today that gas in New Mexico is 20¢ less per gallon (or
so) than in Arizona, but I'm not going to drive over from Phoenix to fill
up.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378026 is a reply to message #378025] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 13:50 |
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On 2018-12-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>> On 2018-12-11, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/12/2018 10:50, maus wrote:
>>>
>>>> They never changed. Driving from Dublin to Belfast, the first real notice
>>>> that you are in a different country is the speed limits in MPH.
>>>
>>> My experience (although it may have changed) is that on driving from
>>> Northern Ireland to the republic there were loads of petrol stations
>>> just over the border to sell cheap petrol to the people from NI.
>>>
>>> So much nicer than passing through barricades and machine gun posts of old.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
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>> Years ago, a man called Martin O'Donoghue made a smart proposal, do
>> away with car tax and raise the money by taxing fuel, the more you
>> used, the more you paid. Everyone below a certain distance of the
>> Border drove North (or South, in Donegal) to fill up.
>>
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> Shurely, even in a small island, this was a minuscule percentage of the
> population. I saw today that gas in New Mexico is 20¢ less per gallon (or
> so) than in Arizona, but I'm not going to drive over from Phoenix to fill
> up.
>
I have heard of people in the US driving to the next state for various
things.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378028 is a reply to message #378026] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 14:00 |
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maus <mausg@mail.com> writes:
> On 2018-12-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-12-11, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/12/2018 10:50, maus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > They never changed. Driving from Dublin to Belfast, the first real notice
>>>> > that you are in a different country is the speed limits in MPH.
>>>>
>>>> My experience (although it may have changed) is that on driving from
>>>> Northern Ireland to the republic there were loads of petrol stations
>>>> just over the border to sell cheap petrol to the people from NI.
>>>>
>>>> So much nicer than passing through barricades and machine gun posts of old.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>
>>> Years ago, a man called Martin O'Donoghue made a smart proposal, do
>>> away with car tax and raise the money by taxing fuel, the more you
>>> used, the more you paid. Everyone below a certain distance of the
>>> Border drove North (or South, in Donegal) to fill up.
>>>
>>
>> Shurely, even in a small island, this was a minuscule percentage of the
>> population. I saw today that gas in New Mexico is 20¢ less per gallon (or
>> so) than in Arizona, but I'm not going to drive over from Phoenix to fill
>> up.
>>
>
>
> I have heard of people in the US driving to the next state for various
> things.
Which can be simply across the river (e.g. iowans crossing into illinois
to avoid the old state-run liquor monopoly) or across the street (e.g. South
Lake Tahoe).
Back in the pre-embargo days, it wasn't uncommon for people to arrange
their trips such that they pass through one of the towns with the cheapest
gas (USD 0.23/gal instead of 0.25 :-).
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378030 is a reply to message #378018] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 14:40 |
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On 2018-12-11, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> Years ago, a man called Martin O'Donoghue made a smart proposal, do
> away with car tax and raise the money by taxing fuel, the more you
> used, the more you paid. Everyone below a certain distance of the
> Border drove North (or South, in Donegal) to fill up.
Twice a week I work in an office out at the edge of Metro Vancouver
(the sexy new name for the Greater Vancouver Regional District).
At lunchtime I can drive to a gas station just across the boundary
and save at least 12 cents a litre in Metro Vancouver fuel taxes.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378032 is a reply to message #378026] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 14:46 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2018-12-11, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-12-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Years ago, a man called Martin O'Donoghue made a smart proposal, do
>>> away with car tax and raise the money by taxing fuel, the more you
>>> used, the more you paid. Everyone below a certain distance of the
>>> Border drove North (or South, in Donegal) to fill up.
>>
>> Shurely, even in a small island, this was a minuscule percentage of the
>> population. I saw today that gas in New Mexico is 20¢ less per gallon (or
>> so) than in Arizona, but I'm not going to drive over from Phoenix to fill
>> up.
>
> I have heard of people in the US driving to the next state for various
> things.
Here in Canada just north of the U.S. border, some people drive across
for cheap fuel. IMHO the saving isn't worth the time spent getting
through customs each way (not to mention the fuel you burn on the way).
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378033 is a reply to message #378024] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 14:50 |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 10:42:18 -0800 (PST)
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> For instance,
> banking is highly automated now, yet consumers don't get the benefits.
I see a good many benefits since I first started banking.
* 24/7 ATMs for everything cash related
* 24/7 Online and telephone banking for most other things
* Free next working day (latest) transfers within Europe
* Access to a number of cheap and fast transfer options outside Europe
* Debit cards for face and remote payments
* Debit cards that work when I'm traveling
* No cheques to fill in
* On the rare occasions I do need to visit a branch they're open normal
shopping hours and Saturdays with short queues and fast helpful service.
It compares very favoroubly indeed with everything bank related
involving visiting the bank which opened 9:30-3:30 Monday to Friday,
filling in forms and standing in long queues to present them to a
supercilious cashier - sometimes to be sent off to fill in another form and
return - via the long queue, posting cheques and waiting for them to clear,
waiting three days for a cheque to clear before you could use your money,
paying twenty five quid and waiting three days for a bank transfer and ...
No there haven't been many benefits to the customer.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378034 is a reply to message #378007] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 15:05 |
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Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 18:55, Bill Findlay wrote:
>> On 9 Dec 2018, J. Clarke wrote
>> (in article<80oo0etftmem6ngbsesi4jo7tq2r1dnha2@4ax.com>):
>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:24:47 +0000, Bill Findlay
>>> <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8 Dec 2018, maus wrote
>>>> (in article <slrnq0npm6.1lm.mausg@dmaus.org>):
>>>>
>>>> > Voltaire criticised the Romanists, but hedged his bets by having a Catholic
>>>> > funeral.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> He did criticise the Romanists and he did have a Catholic burial, so
>>> you must be asserting that the motivation for doing so is something
>>> other than a "hedging of bets". Do you have evidence of the
>>> motivation?
>>
>> Do YOU have evidence that HE hedged his bets? Hmm?
>>
>> It is a tedious trope of believers in the supernatural that non-theists
>> are wont to "see the light" on their death beds.
>>
>> Many, if not all, of these stories are lies. In the case of David Hume,
>> for example, we have no less an authority than James Boswell for
>> the truth of the matter.
>>
>> But Lying For The Lord is doing the Lord's Work.
>> So that's OK.
>>
>> I am reminded of the passages in Josephus that are claimed to
>> prove the existence of the transcendental fig tree destroyer.
>> Modern theologians accept that these are "interpolations".
>> The language used in any other context would be "fakes".
>>
>
> If the man did not convert on his death bed then the story tellers are
> breaking the 10 Commandments by committing the sin of 'false witness'
> against him.
>
You don’t say!
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378035 is a reply to message #378024] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 15:14 |
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hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
> For instance, banking is highly automated now, yet consumers don't get
> the benefits.
Actually, I much appreciate my banks automation.
I rarely have to even go there with ATMs and online bill paying.
My bank, a credit union, recently remodeled.
There are no more tellers at a counter, each person sits at a desk.
More like a travel agency than a bank.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378037 is a reply to message #377961] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 16:07 |
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:53:53 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:
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> Practical much? Electric heating _works_ just fine,
Unless there is a prolonged power outage. Especially nasty when the
outside temperature is way below the freezing mark.
> it's just that it costs the Earth to run it.
If you have a river near by thus using hydro electric it doesn't cost the
earth that much.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378038 is a reply to message #377989] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 16:18 |
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On 11 Dec 2018 10:34:09 GMT, maus wrote:
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> On 2018-12-11, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:15:51 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach
>> <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
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>>> Although when in WWII France was about to be overrun by the Nazis the UK
>>> asked France to surrender her warships. As France declined UK destroyers
>>> shelled and sunk them, although France was an ally.
>>
>> Which battle are you thinking of? The only record I can find of the
>> British sinking French ships was Mers-El-Kebir which was mostly a
>> battleship engagement in North Africa.
>
> That was surely what he meant. There were a lot of French sailors killed
> and the French are still sore about it.
Yes, although I could not recall where it happened. It also seems,
regarding <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Mers-el-K%C3%A9bir>,
that it was an air attack, not by Navy ships as I thought.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378039 is a reply to message #377971] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 17:40 |
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Originally posted by: Stoat
On 11/12/18 5:34 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:34:41 +1300, Stoat <fake@fake.org> wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/18 3:54 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> Houses are built with electric heating regardless of where the
>>> electricity comes from. It's still horribly inefficient.
>>
>>
>> Heat pumps are 3-4 times more efficient than resistive heating. I use
>> them for most of my heating needs. With local prices they are also much
>> cheaper to use than natural gas.
>
> Either those are incredibly good heat pumps or you live in a fairly
> warm climate. However the loss with electric heat is at the other
> end.
>
> Oh, and if you want _efficient_ try a _gas_ heat pump. The heat that
> goes into the cooling system goes to heat. The heat that goes out the
> exhaust is recovered through a heat exchanger. And then there's the
> heat moved around by the shaft work that goes into the heat pump. You
> get all the heat out of the fuel plus more.
Yes, I could use gas to drive the compressor. I have a gas line adjacent
to the external units to provide continuous hot water. Maybe next time.
The point was that electrical energy is used only to drive the
compressor, fan and controls. Heat is taken from the outside air, so
this is far more efficient than using electricity (or gas) to heat the
air directly.
>
>> This works well here because we can use air-source pumps, and don't need
>> extensive (and expensive) underground piping for ground-source. We have
>> a cool climate but very few frosts.
>>
>> --brian
>>
>> Wellington, NZ
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378045 is a reply to message #377811] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 19:29 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 16:37:51 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach
<ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On 9 Dec 2018 09:13:06 GMT, maus wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-12-08, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The North Sea is covered with oil platforms. Way beyond 12 miles.
>>>
>>
>> By international agreement, between the neighbouring contries (Not
>> many people know that stone age implements are frequently recovered
>> from the shallow middle of the North sea, are they from stone age
>> britian or stone age Norway.. ?)
>>
>> There was a dispute between the UK and the Republic about a rock in the
>> atlantic called 'Rockall', Nobody lives on it, nobody could live on it.
>
> There is also a rock between Greenland (which belongs to Denmark) and
> Canada. Which now is not really important. But if the ice melts both
> Denmark and Canada are interested to get the oil there. And were at least
> engaged to rise their own flag on that island, while the other party came
> to swap it with their own flag
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island#Google_fight>.
>
> Imagine Canada and Denmark go to war. Both are parts of the NATO...
Turkey and Greece are also part of NATO. They ave gone to war before
using ships, etc. given to them as part of their NATO gear.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378046 is a reply to message #378026] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 19:31 |
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maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-12-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-12-11, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/12/2018 10:50, maus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > They never changed. Driving from Dublin to Belfast, the first real notice
>>>> > that you are in a different country is the speed limits in MPH.
>>>>
>>>> My experience (although it may have changed) is that on driving from
>>>> Northern Ireland to the republic there were loads of petrol stations
>>>> just over the border to sell cheap petrol to the people from NI.
>>>>
>>>> So much nicer than passing through barricades and machine gun posts of old.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>
>>> Years ago, a man called Martin O'Donoghue made a smart proposal, do
>>> away with car tax and raise the money by taxing fuel, the more you
>>> used, the more you paid. Everyone below a certain distance of the
>>> Border drove North (or South, in Donegal) to fill up.
>>>
>>
>> Shurely, even in a small island, this was a minuscule percentage of the
>> population. I saw today that gas in New Mexico is 20¢ less per gallon (or
>> so) than in Arizona, but I'm not going to drive over from Phoenix to fill
>> up.
>>
>
>
> I have heard of people in the US driving to the next state for various
> things.
>
Maybe if you live within 20 miles of the border - unless it's something
that's illegal in your state. Pot is a contemporary example.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378047 is a reply to message #378032] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 19:31 |
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2018-12-11, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-12-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Years ago, a man called Martin O'Donoghue made a smart proposal, do
>>>> away with car tax and raise the money by taxing fuel, the more you
>>>> used, the more you paid. Everyone below a certain distance of the
>>>> Border drove North (or South, in Donegal) to fill up.
>>>
>>> Shurely, even in a small island, this was a minuscule percentage of the
>>> population. I saw today that gas in New Mexico is 20¢ less per gallon (or
>>> so) than in Arizona, but I'm not going to drive over from Phoenix to fill
>>> up.
>>
>> I have heard of people in the US driving to the next state for various
>> things.
>
> Here in Canada just north of the U.S. border, some people drive across
> for cheap fuel. IMHO the saving isn't worth the time spent getting
> through customs each way (not to mention the fuel you burn on the way).
>
It's probably worthwhile if combined with other stuff on the trip.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378048 is a reply to message #377825] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 19:35 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On 9 Dec 2018 22:36:08 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-12-09, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2018-12-09, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9 Dec 2018 18:45:18 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> we're going to have to live with what we have for a long time.
>>
>> Perhaps - but a few tweaks to the system could make things a lot
>> easier in the meantime.
>>
>
> Re Yorkshire: I worked all over the UK once, and found Yorkshire a
> fairly friendly place, once they got to know you. Passed through a
> few years ago, the towns centres were taken ove rby Pakastanis or Hindus,
> different sort of people.
>
> If you are going to reduce reproduction, that is what you are up against,
> other people coming into take over the jobs that are there, but no
> youngsters to take them.
>
> I have heard of the same happening in the US, where Latin Americans are
> needed to do the basic work.
Many white American kids have decided they are too good to be washing
dishes, moping restaurants, etc. But their parents don't want
immigration. I've washed dishes and moped floors, didn't harm me one
bit. Well, my back hurt until I got used it it, but that was it.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378050 is a reply to message #376693] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 19:48 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On 10 Dec 2018 10:34:02 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2018-12-10, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>
> [26 lines snipped]
>
>> Wood pellets as a biofuel is increasing in use. Once we have the power
>> station then demand rises and it becomes economically viable to plant
>> trees as a crop. I have a couple of farms near me that have planted
>> willow on uneconomic boggy ground. They harvest the willow wands on a 3
>> year cycle for pelleting. It also has had the advantage of reducing
>> flooding and run off.
>> The whole tree is not cut, it just gets trimmed about a foot of the
>> ground and regrows more willow wands.
>
> This is called "pollarding", and is a technique that dates back to medieval
> times.
>
>> Some goes to basket weaving of all things. It seems to be a growing craft.
>
> A returning craft. Again, basket weaving is medieval.
Significantly older that that. Egyptians, Native Americans, people of
the Middle East, China, South east Asia, etc.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378054 is a reply to message #377908] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 19:55 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:05:17 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
> maus <mausg@mail.com> writes:
>> On 2018-12-10, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:
>>>> On 2018-12-10, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>> > On 2018-12-10, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>> >> On 10 Dec 2018 10:46:02 GMT
>>>> >> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > [37 lines snipped]
>>>> >
>>>> >>> In the UK, the economic case [for solar PV] simply isn't convincing enough.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For some it clearly is.
>>>> >
>>>> > And they're welcome to it. I'll wait until there's a lot less hand-havey,
>>>> > thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Pioneers end up face down in the dirt with arrows in their backs.
>>>>
>>>> (Did Andy(?) install his own panels? If so, did he factor in the cost
>>>> of his own labour? I'd wager yes and no, respectively.)
>>>
>>> There's not a whole lot of labor involved, really. Took about 6 hours
>>> from driving up in the truck to flipping the breaker connecting the system to the
>>> grid.
>>>
>>
>> Until the next windy day.
>
> What does a windy day have to do with rooftop solar installation?
The solar panel becomes a sail. Taking the installer with it, if the
wind is high enough.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378055 is a reply to message #377927] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 19:57 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On 10 Dec 2018 21:18:15 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-12-10, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9 Dec 2018 09:32:58 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-12-09, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7 Dec 2018 21:04:28 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>> >On 2018-12-07, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 16:45:22 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >You are surely taking the p***.
>>>>
>>>> I'm unfamiliar with the terms you used. Okay, I looked that up. You
>>>> are mistaken.
>>>>
>>>> Geologists on the program said it was possible. They noticed a dip in
>>>> the Earth's gravity field at an rea under the Antarctic ice sheet.
>>>> Further work, consisting of a radar flying over that area and mapping
>>>> it, showed hollows under the ice sheet.
>>>>
>>>> Their conclusion was that the voids are filled with water.
>>>>
>>>> Places like Lake Vostok
>>>> https://www.ancient-code.com/hidden-world-antarctica-researc hers-reveal-lies-beneath-ice/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Sorry, I was jesting, that work is well known. The Russians were planning
>>> to drill into that, but others pointed out thatdoing that would pollute
>>> it.
>>
>> Oh, a smily would have helped. They have the same problems as drilling
>> on Europa. How to do it without contamintion ?
>>
>>
> Agreed. Back to Heisenberg?..
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Tue, 11 December 2018 20:01 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:49:11 -0500, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
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> AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 08/12/2018 18:59, Dan Espen wrote:
>>
>>> Too bad we can't use leaves. Lots of them here in NJ.
>>
>> Best rake them up to prevent forest fires. They apparently rake the
>> forests in Finland to stop this, a fact that comes as a real surprise
>> to the Finns.
>
> Today's word is smocking, as in "smocking gun".
>
> It's nice when sentences with overwhelming cognitive dissonance also
> contain childish spelling errors repeated twice.
>
> You come away with a feeling I can't describe.
Actually, the orange haired on did use twitter to say'smocking gun'.
He most likely, but maybe not, meant it without the c in 'smocking'.
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Tue, 11 December 2018 20:04 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:42 -0500, J. Clarke
<jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:15:51 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach
> <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>
>> On 9 Dec 2018 21:48:40 GMT, maus wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2018-12-09, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > There was a dispute between the UK and the Republic about a rock in the
>>>> > atlantic called 'Rockall', Nobody lives on it, nobody could live on it.
>>>>
>>>> There is also a rock between Greenland (which belongs to Denmark) and
>>>> Canada. Which now is not really important. But if the ice melts both
>>>> Denmark and Canada are interested to get the oil there. And were at least
>>>> engaged to rise their own flag on that island, while the other party came
>>>> to swap it with their own flag
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island#Google_fight>.
>>>
>>> Yes, I have read of that before. I think that it is more that Greenland is
>>> associated with Denmark, rather than it belongs to it
>>
>> But Greenland must belong to some country, no?
>>
>>>> Imagine Canada and Denmark go to war. Both are parts of the NATO...
>>>
>>> Turkey and NATO??...
>>
>> Why do you bring up Turkey?
>>
>>> There was a thing about the UK and France going together to buy a
>>> 'previously loved' US aircraft carrier. In case of a war between the two
>>> , would France use the aircraft carrier to bomb the UK one day and The UK
>>> use it to bomb France the next?. "Catch 22", how are ye.
>>
>> But how likely is that the UK and France wage war?
>>
>> Although when in WWII France was about to be overrun by the Nazis the UK
>> asked France to surrender her warships. As France declined UK destroyers
>> shelled and sunk them, although France was an ally.
>
> Which battle are you thinking of? The only record I can find of the
> British sinking French ships was Mers-El-Kebir which was mostly a
> battleship engagement in North Africa.
Yeah, I don't remember destroyers being mentioned there, except maybe
as a screen.
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Tue, 11 December 2018 20:14 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 10:21:59 +0000, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 21:06, maus wrote:
>> I remember when WiFi was getting popular, a guy from around where ora.com is, wrote a
>> book on installing your own, (one variation was using Pringle tubes). After writing
>> the book, he slipped off a roof and was a long time recovering. Forget the name.
>
> As a radio amateur falling of roof is an ever present risk when setting
> up you own antennas. I know of a few people who have done it. Since
> radio tends to be skewed to the older gentleman demographic, shuffling
> about the roof or up a ladder has killed quite a few.
> However my Cantenna for wifi have always been low level. They work
> surprisingly well and all you to tap into wifi at quite a distance.
> I used a couple at home until plug in wifi repeaters became cheap and
> easy to use.
>
> ...and you get to eat the pringles to obtain the empty can.
I assembled my 1/4 wave verticle, a Hustler 5btv, then we took turns
pounding a steel pipe into the group. We carried it out, and we turned
it upright. While my realtive and his oldest sort of held it steady, I
U-bolted it to the pipe. Works great. And no roof to fall off of.
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Tue, 11 December 2018 21:15 |
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke
On 11 Dec 2018 18:50:09 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-12-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-12-11, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/12/2018 10:50, maus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > They never changed. Driving from Dublin to Belfast, the first real notice
>>>> > that you are in a different country is the speed limits in MPH.
>>>>
>>>> My experience (although it may have changed) is that on driving from
>>>> Northern Ireland to the republic there were loads of petrol stations
>>>> just over the border to sell cheap petrol to the people from NI.
>>>>
>>>> So much nicer than passing through barricades and machine gun posts of old.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>
>>> Years ago, a man called Martin O'Donoghue made a smart proposal, do
>>> away with car tax and raise the money by taxing fuel, the more you
>>> used, the more you paid. Everyone below a certain distance of the
>>> Border drove North (or South, in Donegal) to fill up.
>>>
>>
>> Shurely, even in a small island, this was a minuscule percentage of the
>> population. I saw today that gas in New Mexico is 20¢ less per gallon (or
>> so) than in Arizona, but I'm not going to drive over from Phoenix to fill
>> up.
>>
>
>
> I have heard of people in the US driving to the next state for various
> things.
I live in CT and work in MA. There's usually a 20 cent or so
difference in gas prices so I fill up in MA. It has been pointed out
that if people are going to MA because the taxes are lower, CT has to
be doing something wrong.
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Tue, 11 December 2018 21:16 |
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 11:03:51 +0000, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/12/2018 08:39, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 07:20:28 +0000
>> AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>>> Fun wins every time.
>>> Definition: Engineer, a person who will spend £100 to solve a £10 problem.
>>> :-)
>>
>> Damn busted! Still
>>
>> Designer: A person who will add £500 in decoration to the £100 solution of
>> a £10 problem.
>
> Designer: A person who will add £500 in decoration. The actual solution
> is optional.
>
> Marketing: A department that will add £500 to a solution for a problem
> that you never had but you bought it anyway.
Consulting: Finding a way to milk 40 years of payments out of a
problem that a smart child could have solved in 10 minutes.
>
>
> Andy
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378061 is a reply to message #378001] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 21:25 |
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke
On 11 Dec 2018 11:07:41 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-12-11, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10 Dec 2018 21:11:09 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-10, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote:
>>>> Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
>>>> > 40 Years of the 'Fighter Mafia', An informal group begun by Col. John
>>>> > Boyd and mathematician Tom Christie calls for military reform--by doing
>>>> > more with less.
>>>> > https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/40-years-of -the-fighter-mafia/
>>>>
>>>> re:
>>>> <a href="#79">http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018f.html#79</a> Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth?
>>>> <a href="#80">http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018f.html#80</a> Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth?
>>>>
>>>> Boyd is also credited with the "left hook" land war battle plan for
>>>> Desert Storm ... Desert Storm was 42day, only last 100hrs was land
>>>> war. GAO Air Effectiveness study has A10 taking out Iraqi tanks so
>>>> easily that the Iraqi crews were walking away from the tanks as sitting
>>>> ducks ... A10 sort of had turkey shoot ... firing total of million 30mm
>>>> shells during Desert Storm. Land war description of fierce tank battles
>>>> with coalition forces taking no damage, don't mention if the Iraqi tanks
>>>> had anyboyd home. Burton's "Pentagon Wars" has him getting the cost of
>>>> 30mm shells down from >$80 to $13 (million shells, $13m).
>>>
>>> The problem with many of those shells was that being filled with 'depleted
>>> uraniuum', the residue will be still killing people in many years time.m
>>
>> How will it be doing that? Do you know the LD50 for depleted uranium?
>> How will people get that much exposure?
>
> I rely on Iraqi sources, saying that children cancers are much higher
> than before GulfWarII.
About twice as much depleted uranium was used in Gulf War I as in Gulf
War II, so that "much higher" claim seems suspect if it is supposed to
be due to depleted uranium.
> I would also rely on stories that in training
> in the US, depleted uranium shot can only be fired under very limited
> ways, using ways that will not allow the DU to not get into the
> Athmosphere.
I would not rely on soldiers' stories for much of anything. I have
heard too much bullshit from them.
> One of the other sad thing about the Iraqi invasion is the way that
> a large part of the resident Christian population had to flee, as the
> Muslims thought that they had some connection with the USA.
Or the lack of Saddam took the leash off of the extremists.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378062 is a reply to message #378004] |
Tue, 11 December 2018 21:26 |
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke
On 11 Dec 2018 11:15:29 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-12-11, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10 Dec 2018 10:13:30 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-10, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 09/12/2018 11:17, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> > You seem to have a negative attitude toward Sitka Spruce. You might
>>>> > want to look into its history--during WWII, 7782 deHavilland
>>>> > Mosquitoes, widely regarded as the most versatile aircraft in the war
>>>> > and until jets came along the fastest in general service, were
>>>> > constructed of Sitka Spruce. Sitka Spruce was chosen because it has
>>>> > the highest strength-to-weight ratio of any commercial timber
>>>> > available at the time.
>>>>
>>>> Ahhh now there was an aircraft. The thing of beauty.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> As opposed to the "Spruce Goose?"
>>
>> If the war had still been on, Hughes would probably have gotten a
>> production contract and it might have seen a good bit of service, but
>> no, it didn't have the versatility of the Mosquito.
>
>
> If I remember the story correctly, Hughes would get a lot of his money
> back _if_ the plane ever flew at all. With a great amount of effort, it did
> get into the air for a few moments, then was towed away to storage.
Wasn't all that much effort. Hughes opened the throttle, pulled back
on the yoke, and up it went.
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Tue, 11 December 2018 21:28 |
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 10:48:58 +0000, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/12/2018 03:30, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> Around here the installed cost of a 4KW array is about $15,000 and
>> that does not include another $3000-5000 to take down several trees
>> which would be necessary if it was to be effective.
>>
>> I suspect I could make more off of that amount of money by investing
>> it in the right securities.
>
> It is never going to be a one size fits all but if it works for you then
> fine otherwise fine.
> I keep getting people telling me that solar does not work despite the
> fact that it works fine for me.
> I have a fried who lives mostly off grid and has his own solar thermal
> system, solar PV and wind generator and battery set up yet people will
> patiently explain to him that solar and wind do not work despite the
> fact that he has been off grid for about 4 years when a storm took out
> his power line and he agreed with the electricity company to not bother
> fixing it.
> He also has log burners and a pelleted wood central heating system.
So solar alone is _not_ working for him. If it was he wouldn't need
log burners or a pelleted wood central heating system.
>
> Andy
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Tue, 11 December 2018 23:38 |
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J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> So solar alone is _not_ working for him. If it was he wouldn't need
> log burners or a pelleted wood central heating system.
Electricity alone does not work for most people, nearly everyone
burns something for heat be it wood, coal, gas or oil.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378080 is a reply to message #378032] |
Wed, 12 December 2018 02:25 |
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Originally posted by: AndyW
On 11/12/2018 19:46, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2018-12-11, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> Here in Canada just north of the U.S. border, some people drive across
> for cheap fuel. IMHO the saving isn't worth the time spent getting
> through customs each way (not to mention the fuel you burn on the way).
>
It doesn't have to make sense.
In the 70s my father used to drive around all the petrol stations in
town looking for the cheapest. He invariably would burn more fuel than
he ever saved.
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Wed, 12 December 2018 02:27 |
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Originally posted by: AndyW
On 11/12/2018 20:14, Dan Espen wrote:
> My bank, a credit union, recently remodeled.
> There are no more tellers at a counter, each person sits at a desk.
> More like a travel agency than a bank.
In my bank we have a line of ATMs inside the bank and a row of desks
where the tellers stand.
I prefer the ATMs over the faux sincerity and cabin crew welcome.
I think I am becoming a grumpy old man...
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378082 is a reply to message #378063] |
Wed, 12 December 2018 02:36 |
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Originally posted by: AndyW
On 12/12/2018 02:28, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 10:48:58 +0000, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is never going to be a one size fits all but if it works for you then
>> fine otherwise fine.
>> I keep getting people telling me that solar does not work despite the
>> fact that it works fine for me.
>> I have a fried who lives mostly off grid and has his own solar thermal
>> system, solar PV and wind generator and battery set up yet people will
>> patiently explain to him that solar and wind do not work despite the
>> fact that he has been off grid for about 4 years when a storm took out
>> his power line and he agreed with the electricity company to not bother
>> fixing it.
>> He also has log burners and a pelleted wood central heating system.
>
> So solar alone is _not_ working for him. If it was he wouldn't need
> log burners or a pelleted wood central heating system.
Nice straw man, or is it goalpost shifting? Never too sure on the overlap.
I don't think I made the claim that solar would fill all your needs.
Solar works for his electricity needs and solar thermal to top off his
heat store. In the event of there not being enough sun then wind usually
tops off his thermal store and failing that he has log burners and
pelleted wood for boost heat.
Andy
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Wed, 12 December 2018 04:46 |
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On 2018-12-11, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On 11 Dec 2018 10:34:09 GMT, maus wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-12-11, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:15:51 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach
>>> <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Although when in WWII France was about to be overrun by the Nazis the UK
>>>> asked France to surrender her warships. As France declined UK destroyers
>>>> shelled and sunk them, although France was an ally.
>>>
>>> Which battle are you thinking of? The only record I can find of the
>>> British sinking French ships was Mers-El-Kebir which was mostly a
>>> battleship engagement in North Africa.
>>
>> That was surely what he meant. There were a lot of French sailors killed
>> and the French are still sore about it.
>
> Yes, although I could not recall where it happened. It also seems,
> regarding <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Mers-el-K%C3%A9bir>,
> that it was an air attack, not by Navy ships as I thought.
There was never much information on that time, The British were never
proud of their behaviour. Another thing, it has recently come out that
the British government were very slow in telling their French allies that
that they were pulling their Army back to England, via Dunkirk.
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Wed, 12 December 2018 04:49 |
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On 2018-12-12, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2018-12-11, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> I have heard of people in the US driving to the next state for various
>>> things.
>>
>> Here in Canada just north of the U.S. border, some people drive across
>> for cheap fuel. IMHO the saving isn't worth the time spent getting
>> through customs each way (not to mention the fuel you burn on the way).
>>
>
> It's probably worthwhile if combined with other stuff on the trip.
>
or if you are in a State job, and are on strike. Some of the teachers here
were on strike a few years ago, and there were remarks on the amount of
people (teachery-looking) shopping in Newry.
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Wed, 12 December 2018 04:56 |
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On 2018-12-12, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:28:07 -0500
> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So solar alone is _not_ working for him. If it was he wouldn't need
>> log burners or a pelleted wood central heating system.
>
> Electricity alone does not work for most people, nearly everyone
> burns something for heat be it wood, coal, gas or oil.
>
I know of two houses that were fitted with electrical underfloor
heating, one gave it up after a month or so, replaced it with oil.
That was years ago, when electricity was far cheaper than now.
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Wed, 12 December 2018 04:58 |
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On 2018-12-12, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/12/2018 20:14, Dan Espen wrote:
>> My bank, a credit union, recently remodeled.
>> There are no more tellers at a counter, each person sits at a desk.
>> More like a travel agency than a bank.
>
> In my bank we have a line of ATMs inside the bank and a row of desks
> where the tellers stand.
>
> I prefer the ATMs over the faux sincerity and cabin crew welcome.
> I think I am becoming a grumpy old man...
>
> Andy
>
perhaps we should form a new group?.. Alt.grumpy.oldmen... Me first!.
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Wed, 12 December 2018 08:22 |
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Originally posted by: Kerr-Mudd,John
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:58:33 GMT, maus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-12-12, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/12/2018 20:14, Dan Espen wrote:
>>> My bank, a credit union, recently remodeled.
>>> There are no more tellers at a counter, each person sits at a desk.
>>> More like a travel agency than a bank.
>>
>> In my bank we have a line of ATMs inside the bank and a row of desks
>> where the tellers stand.
>>
>> I prefer the ATMs over the faux sincerity and cabin crew welcome.
>> I think I am becoming a grumpy old man...
>>
>> Andy
>>
>
>
> perhaps we should form a new group?.. Alt.grumpy.oldmen... Me first!.
>
There's a dire lot of old fogeys in the silversurfers NG.
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Wed, 12 December 2018 09:12 |
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JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:05:17 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
> wrote:
>>> Until the next windy day.
>>
>> What does a windy day have to do with rooftop solar installation?
>
> The solar panel becomes a sail. Taking the installer with it, if the
> wind is high enough.
So does a sheet of plywood (which has a much larger surface area than
the 6 sq ft of a solar panal); yet people build houses on windy days.
Wind is not a concern for solar installers, unless it reaches Force
status.
BTW - Modern solar panels weigh very little, less than 10 #.
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Wed, 12 December 2018 10:54 |
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maus <mausg@mail.com> writes:
> On 2018-12-12, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:28:07 -0500
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So solar alone is _not_ working for him. If it was he wouldn't need
>>> log burners or a pelleted wood central heating system.
>>
>> Electricity alone does not work for most people, nearly everyone
>> burns something for heat be it wood, coal, gas or oil.
>
> I know of two houses that were fitted with electrical underfloor
> heating, one gave it up after a month or so, replaced it with oil.
> That was years ago, when electricity was far cheaper than now.
I had electric installed in a bungalow and my MIL used it for
years. Before installation I had to insulate the entire place.
Worked fine, she paid the bills on SS without ever coming to me
for more money.
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Wed, 12 December 2018 17:13 |
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In article <87in022xg0.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>,
Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>> There was a dispute between the UK and the Republic about a rock in the
>> atlantic called 'Rockall', Nobody lives on it, nobody could live on it.
>
> There is also a rock between Greenland (which belongs to Denmark) and
> Canada. Which now is not really important. ...
Machias Seal Island off the coast of Maine is claimed by both the US
and Canada. Canada built a lighthouse in 1832 which is the only one
in Canada that still has on-site keepers.
It's surrounded by lobsters, or has been in the past. The ambiguity
about who's in charge means that nobody enforces quotas and the area
is badly overfished.
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| Re: Is LINUX the inheritor of the Earth? [message #378106 is a reply to message #376693] |
Wed, 12 December 2018 17:30 |
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Originally posted by: JimP
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:38:12 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach
<ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:29:31 -0600, JimP wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 16:37:51 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach
>> <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Imagine Canada and Denmark go to war. Both are parts of the NATO...
>>
>> Turkey and Greece are also part of NATO. They ave gone to war before
>> using ships, etc. given to them as part of their NATO gear.
>
> Okay, I should had added "democratic". While is Greece (on my opinion is)
> is Turkey ruled by a dictator.
The Navy ship I was stationed on went there several times during the
military junta last century. After got back to the states one time, I
saw the movie Z. It was about a reporter who was killed back then.
--
Jim
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