| Master of Ragnarok and Blesser of Einherjar [message #373819] |
Fri, 21 September 2018 01:51  |
David Johnston
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Thoughts.
Why all the references to the Norse when they are on the cusp between
the Bronze Age and the Iron Age?
At least in this show they are using the magic smartphone in a smart way.
Irritating harem bullshit.
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| Re: Master of Ragnarok and Blesser of Einherjar [message #373829 is a reply to message #373819] |
Fri, 21 September 2018 10:37  |
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Originally posted by: Bobbie Sellers
On 9/20/18 10:51 PM, David Johnston wrote:
> Thoughts.
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> Why all the references to the Norse when they are on the cusp between
> the Bronze Age and the Iron Age?
Well after the Norse and other cultures adopted iron the Alfar had to
stay away from humans(this is a common trope in many fantasy stories).
I don't know the shows you are talking about but I have
read a lot of Science Fiction and Fantasy Fiction when there were no
fresh Science Fiction novels to read.
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> At least in this show they are using the magic smartphone in a smart way.
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> Irritating harem bullshit.
Some love this sort of wish-fulfillment fantasy, i.e. so called harem
themes.
bliss
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bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com
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| Re: Master of Ragnarok and Blesser of Einherjar [message #373830 is a reply to message #373829] |
Fri, 21 September 2018 11:21 |
David Johnston
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On 2018-09-21 8:37 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 9/20/18 10:51 PM, David Johnston wrote:
>> Thoughts.
>>
>> Why all the references to the Norse when they are on the cusp between
>> the Bronze Age and the Iron Age?
>
> Well after the Norse and other cultures adopted iron the Alfar had
> to stay away from humans(this is a common trope in many fantasy
> stories). I don't know the shows you are talking about but I have
> read a lot of Science Fiction and Fantasy Fiction when there were no
> fresh Science Fiction novels to read.
What I was talking about was that in Master of Ragnarok and Blesser of
Einherjar is that the protagonist is revolutionizing warfare on the
world of Yggdrasil by introducing the phalanx, chariots and iron. It's
all very Alexander the Great (including the climate they're operating
in) and I find it to be an odd combination with all the references to
6th century Nordic religion.
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>> At least in this show they are using the magic smartphone in a smart way.
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>> Irritating harem bullshit.
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> Some love this sort of wish-fulfillment fantasy, i.e. so called
> harem themes.
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> bliss
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| Re: Master of Ragnarok and Blesser of Einherjar [message #373842 is a reply to message #373830] |
Fri, 21 September 2018 13:55 |
Nick Roberts
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In message <po329e$1u7p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2018-09-21 8:37 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>> On 9/20/18 10:51 PM, David Johnston wrote:
>>> Thoughts.
>>>
>>> Why all the references to the Norse when they are on the cusp
>>> between the Bronze Age and the Iron Age?
>>
>> Well after the Norse and other cultures adopted iron the Alfar
>> had to stay away from humans(this is a common trope in many
>> fantasy stories). I don't know the shows you are talking about but
>> I have read a lot of Science Fiction and Fantasy Fiction when there
>> were no fresh Science Fiction novels to read.
>
> What I was talking about was that in Master of Ragnarok and Blesser
> of Einherjar is that the protagonist is revolutionizing warfare on
> the world of Yggdrasil by introducing the phalanx, chariots and
> iron. It's all very Alexander the Great (including the climate
> they're operating in) and I find it to be an odd combination with
> all the references to 6th century Nordic religion.
Chariots aren't very Alexander the Great. By the time he has doing his
thing, the chariot was well gone (for hundreds of years) apart from
some behind-the-times holdouts like Britain.
I dropped those series very quickly (they didn't appeal), and if they
are mixing phalanxes and chariots I think I did myself a favour to drop
them before the full ahistorical horror hit me.
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Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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| Re: Master of Ragnarok and Blesser of Einherjar [message #373855 is a reply to message #373842] |
Fri, 21 September 2018 18:23 |
David Johnston
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On 2018-09-21 11:55 AM, Nick Roberts wrote:
> In message <po329e$1u7p$1@gioia.aioe.org>
> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On 2018-09-21 8:37 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> On 9/20/18 10:51 PM, David Johnston wrote:
>>>> Thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> Why all the references to the Norse when they are on the cusp
>>>> between the Bronze Age and the Iron Age?
>>>
>>> Well after the Norse and other cultures adopted iron the Alfar
>>> had to stay away from humans(this is a common trope in many
>>> fantasy stories). I don't know the shows you are talking about but
>>> I have read a lot of Science Fiction and Fantasy Fiction when there
>>> were no fresh Science Fiction novels to read.
>>
>> What I was talking about was that in Master of Ragnarok and Blesser
>> of Einherjar is that the protagonist is revolutionizing warfare on
>> the world of Yggdrasil by introducing the phalanx, chariots and
>> iron. It's all very Alexander the Great (including the climate
>> they're operating in) and I find it to be an odd combination with
>> all the references to 6th century Nordic religion.
>
> Chariots aren't very Alexander the Great.
Right, and he probably didn't introduce chariots. In the first episode
which is, what the start of the fourth book, he talks about having
taught them phalanxes and his tribe appears to be the only ones who have
iron weapons because he's telling his blacksmith that she'll have to
make them for the new tribe he added to his own.
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