PROLINE [message #372633] |
Mon, 20 August 2018 13:15 |
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced
Any Proline experts here?
I've set up a Proline System on the CFFA3000 on my Apple IIe Platinum.
Now I would like to add comp.sys.apple2 to the Conferences to read and write based on my Apple IIe without the help of any modern equipment like the PI.
Is anyone a real Proline expert and can explain how to add this group to the conferences of a Proline system?
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Re: PROLINE [message #372653 is a reply to message #372633] |
Mon, 20 August 2018 17:50 |
Aaron Daughtry
Messages: 226 Registered: July 2013
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Yes... I would post this from proline but it's too much to type.
You will need a unix server to interface with the NNTP server. ProLine
interfaces through the outside world using email over MDSS, an
UUCP-like transfer program. Volume 22, Issue 4 (December 2017) of
Juiced GS has some details about my emulated ProLine server. It uses
TCP rather than a modem but is otherwise equivalent to an 8Mhz IIgs
proline BBS from 20 years ago, including "dialing" into a linux UMDSS
server to send/receive email and usenet.
(As an aside, with an Uthernet II card, you could write a program to
connect directly with an NNTP server. That's left as an exercise to the
reader).
On the linux side:
Suck generates an rnews batch file every 4 hours or so. This file is
"mailed" (queued up for MDSS transfer) to the rnews user at my proline
site.
On the ProLine side:
A cron job "dials" into the linux UMDSS server and sends/recieves mail.
sendmail distributes mail to the correct mailbox
The unbatch utility processes the rnews mailbox ($/sys/mail/rnews) and
splits it into indvidual files in $spool/news/, based on the newsgroup.
The postnews utility then posts the $spool/news/ files into the
appropriate conference.
review the man pages for rnews, postnews, and unbatch.
I have an online, HTMLized copy here: http://proline.ksherlock.com
You might want to create an rnews mail user (adduser -m rnews, IIRC)
my $/etc/aliases file also has this entry:
rnews: ~rnews
so sendmail will write directly to the rnews mailbox without checking
if the user is real.
I have comp.sys.apple2 conferenced as usenet/csa2 and
comp.sys.apple2.programmer as usenet/csa2p.
This is my $/etc/newsys file:
comp.sys.apple2
#L usenet/csa2 200
comp.sys.apple2.programmer=csa2p
#L usenet/pro 200
which keeps 200 messages. comp.sys.apple2.programmer is not a legal
ProDOS name so it needs the csa2p alias.
unbatch and postnews use that to map the usenet group to the
appropriate conference system.
Kelvin
On 2018-08-20 17:15:02 +0000, 6502enhanced@gmail.com said:
> Any Proline experts here?
>
> I've set up a Proline System on the CFFA3000 on my Apple IIe Platinum.
>
> Now I would like to add comp.sys.apple2 to the Conferences to read and
> write based on my Apple IIe without the help of any modern equipment
> like the PI.
>
> Is anyone a real Proline expert and can explain how to add this group
> to the conferences of a Proline system?
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Re: PROLINE [message #372673 is a reply to message #372653] |
Tue, 21 August 2018 06:05 |
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced
Wow! Thanks a lot for that cool explanation Kelvin!
This all seems to be not so easy at all - therefore that I use an Uthernet II card in my IIe Platinum that should be the easiest way to include comp.sys.apple2 into the conference of my Proline system... except the writing of a program for the Uthernet II :)
Do you have any hints for doing that?
Thanks!
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Re: PROLINE [message #372772 is a reply to message #372728] |
Fri, 24 August 2018 05:29 |
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced
Wow - thanks a lot again!
That is much knowledge - slowly I ask myself if I'm able to write that program - man, you're talking about things I never heard before :) ... well, I'll start to read and work myself into that - great that you shared all these information.
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Re: PROLINE [message #372814 is a reply to message #372772] |
Sat, 25 August 2018 02:57 |
spectrumdaddy
Messages: 191 Registered: November 2012
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<6502enhanced@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow - thanks a lot again!
>
> That is much knowledge - slowly I ask myself if I'm able to write that
> program - man, you're talking about things I never heard before :) ...
> well, I'll start to read and work myself into that - great that you shared
> all these information.
Keep at it, as that is the way many of us learned how to program, by
trying to solve a problem that we knew nothing about to start with.
When I got my first Apple ][ way back in 1979, I had the idea of writing
some kind of game, but had no idea how to go about it. I started with
Basic, and learned how that worked. My Apple ][ came with a lower case
adaptor, and a sheet of instructions on how to program for it in
assembly language, so I learned that. Then I heard that there was a BBS
here in the UK that I could access if I had a modem, so I built a modem
from a kit. Then I realised I needed good communications software, which
was thin on the ground then, so I looked in to how to write my own in
6502 assembly language. Three years later, the software was sold as Data
Highway, a program that was very succesful in Europe.
Move on another ten years, I had a IIgs, which needed more powerful
software, so I leanred 65816 assembly language, and Spectrum was born,
another succesful program. That of course is still available, and still
useful.
Since then, I have learned how to write for all kinds of things, and
written all kinds of programs. However, as I was self-taught in the
beginning, and really started with assembly language, I have never
learned how to write in Pascal or C, but as others will testify, that
has not stopped me!
So don't give up, and keep at it. The Apple II platform is not dead, and
with all the new hardware now available, we need lots of new programmers
to write for it...
Cheers - Ewen (Speccie)
http://speccie.uk
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