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What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #353988] Sat, 07 October 2017 22:11 Go to next message
Sam Taber is currently offline  Sam Taber
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Hi,

I recently obtained a Macintosh SE for 10 dollars, and i am getting a
vertical stripe effect on the monitor. I do not know if this is a hard
drive failure, but I assume that is the problem.

I wanted to know, if I could find what system software my Macintosh SE
Model 5011.

Thanks!

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #353989 is a reply to message #353988] Sat, 07 October 2017 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> On Oct 7, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Sam Taber
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> I recently obtained a Macintosh SE for 10 dollars, and i am getting a vertical stripe effect on the monitor.

Probably not a hard drive issue. That’s more akin to a memory issue. Try opening it up and reseating the RAM SIMMs before anything else.

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #353990 is a reply to message #353988] Sun, 08 October 2017 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It’s very likely an analog board issue, rather than an issue of software or the hard disk.

What exactly does the vertical stripe effect look like?

-- Chris

> On Oct 7, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Sam Taber <samtaber1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I recently obtained a Macintosh SE for 10 dollars, and i am getting a vertical stripe effect on the monitor. I do not know if this is a hard drive failure, but I assume that is the problem.
>
> I wanted to know, if I could find what system software my Macintosh SE Model 5011.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #354051 is a reply to message #353990] Mon, 09 October 2017 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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True. I'd try re soldering the fly-back transformer & power connectors.

Might as well plan on a re-cap of the logic board as well.



On Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 12:47:28 AM UTC-4, Chris Hanson wrote:
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> It’s very likely an analog board issue, rather than an issue of software
> or the hard disk.
>
> What exactly does the vertical stripe effect look like?
>
> -- Chris
>
> On Oct 7, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Sam Taber <samt...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I recently obtained a Macintosh SE for 10 dollars, and i am getting a
> vertical stripe effect on the monitor. I do not know if this is a hard
> drive failure, but I assume that is the problem.
>
> I wanted to know, if I could find what system software my Macintosh SE
> Model 5011.
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> Thanks!
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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #354052 is a reply to message #353988] Mon, 09 October 2017 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To answer your title question: you’d probably want to either run System
6.08, System 7.1, or System 7.55 — with increasing memory requirements. But
as others point out: a vertical stripe is not a system issue, but hardware.


On October 7, 2017 at 10:17:29 PM, Sam Taber (samtaber1@gmail.com) wrote:

Hi,

I recently obtained a Macintosh SE for 10 dollars, and i am getting a
vertical stripe effect on the monitor. I do not know if this is a hard
drive failure, but I assume that is the problem.

I wanted to know, if I could find what system software my Macintosh SE
Model 5011.

Thanks!
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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #354053 is a reply to message #354051] Mon, 09 October 2017 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> On Oct 9, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Aoresteen <aoresteen@oresteen.com> wrote:
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> True. I'd try re soldering the fly-back transformer & power connectors.
>
> Might as well plan on a re-cap of the logic board as well.

Those suggestions are just shooting arrows in the dark.

The flyback would not cause vertical lines. The logic board has axial caps and isn’t really prone to simasimac from bad caps. The power supply may be suspect. I’d reseat the RAM modules and check voltages (mostly the +5V). If you can’t adjust the +5V properly, look at recapping the power supply.

- Dylan

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #367739 is a reply to message #353988] Tue, 15 May 2018 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would recommend System 6 or so and maybe System 7, but I wouldn't
recommend anything higher than that, seeing as later System 7 versions look
more aged on a B&W screen rather than a colored screen where it actually
looks decent. also System 7 is probably pushing the 68000 chip farther than
where it's limits should be.

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #367771 is a reply to message #367739] Wed, 16 May 2018 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agre with superstar64. System 6.0.7 (or 6.0.8) would be a sweet spot for
a Mac SE. Pretty stable and nice snappy performance. System 7.0.1 would
work well, but is a bit "laggy" on the SE.

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #367787 is a reply to message #367771] Wed, 16 May 2018 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's not necessarily just an SE thing. I wouldn't recommend anything later
than early System 7 on any 68000 Macintosh...

...And yes, that does include the classic.

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #367825 is a reply to message #367787] Wed, 16 May 2018 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 3:42:44 AM UTC-7, superstar64 wrote:
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> It's not necessarily just an SE thing. I wouldn't recommend anything later
> than early System 7 on any 68000 Macintosh...
>
> ...And yes, that does include the classic.
>

I am running System 7.0.1 on my SE. I don't find it laggy really, and I
like having the software compatibility that System 7 brings. I will say
that I think you need to have a decent hard drive and all 4MB of RAM to run
System 7 on an SE. It was very laggy when I only had 2MB...

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #367854 is a reply to message #367787] Wed, 16 May 2018 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, 16 May 2018 20:42:44 UTC+10, superstar64 wrote:
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> It's not necessarily just an SE thing. I wouldn't recommend anything later
> than early System 7 on any 68000 Macintosh...
>

Yes: I've run 7.0.1 on my Mac Portable (68000, but Mac SE clock speed x 2)
for over 25 years. For the Mac Portable, 7.0.1 has always been a "sweet
spot". System 7.1 slows it down too much and 6.0.8 is nice, but I miss
some utilities and apps that don't work under System 6. There were a few
little hacks to turn off some of the more resource intensive features of
System 7 and make the user interface a bit quicker too. Disabling
"ZoomRects" rings a bell, but it's been a long time since I "tuned" that
system and I'm very happy with the way it runs now.

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Re: What OS Should my Macintosh SE run? [message #367908 is a reply to message #367854] Thu, 17 May 2018 15:10 Go to previous message
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I'm not sure if I'M reading this wrong, but I don't think everyone's
getting what I said. Early System 7 is basically anything before System
7.1, which came on later 68040 machines or so. I think System 6 is the
sweet spot for the SE and some other late 68000 machines.

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