| Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366270] |
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Dave Baranyi
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“Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi” is an adaptation of a josei light novel series about a university student named Aoi who can see and interact with yokai and who ends up being taken into the yokai world to be the bride of an oni. It turns out that Aoi's recently deceased grandfather had powerful spiritual powers like Aoi and could travel at will between the human and yokai worlds. Somewhere during his adventures the grandfather accumulated an enormous debt in the yokai world and pledged his granddaughter as collateral against the debt.
Aoi is not at all pleased with her late grandfather's action and doesn't want to marry the oni, but in the yokai world her grandfather's debt is now considered to be Aoi's debt, so she will either have to marry the oni or pay off the debt. Aoi pledges to pay off the debt and now needs to find a way to make money in the yokai world – a world in which humans are not necessarily welcome by all.
Although this series is based upon a josei novel series it feels a lot like a traditional shoujo story. Aoi is fairly ordinary, other than her spiritual abilities. Many of the yokai that she meets up with, including the oni, are bishiis. And it seems that most everyone wants her as a bride, or as a bride for some younger relative.
The set-up and story are very familiar but the first two episodes are still light, cute, and entertaining. Nothing original or unique has shown up yet but that hasn't been a big drawback. So I'll stick around for a while just to go with the flow. My initial rating is B.
Dave Baranyi
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366290 is a reply to message #366270] |
Fri, 13 April 2018 12:42  |
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Originally posted by: Yes
Dave Baranyi wrote:
> “Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi” is an adaptation of a josei light novel
> series about a university student named Aoi who can see and interact
> with yokai and who ends up being taken into the yokai world to be the
> bride of an oni. It turns out that Aoi's recently deceased
> grandfather had powerful spiritual powers like Aoi and could travel
> at will between the human and yokai worlds. Somewhere during his
> adventures the grandfather accumulated an enormous debt in the yokai
> world and pledged his granddaughter as collateral against the debt.
>
> Aoi is not at all pleased with her late grandfather's action and
> doesn't want to marry the oni, but in the yokai world her
> grandfather's debt is now considered to be Aoi's debt, so she will
> either have to marry the oni or pay off the debt. Aoi pledges to pay
> off the debt and now needs to find a way to make money in the yokai
> world – a world in which humans are not necessarily welcome by all.
>
> Although this series is based upon a josei novel series it feels a
> lot like a traditional shoujo story. Aoi is fairly ordinary, other
> than her spiritual abilities. Many of the yokai that she meets up
> with, including the oni, are bishiis. And it seems that most everyone
> wants her as a bride, or as a bride for some younger relative.
>
> The set-up and story are very familiar but the first two episodes are
> still light, cute, and entertaining. Nothing original or unique has
> shown up yet but that hasn't been a big drawback. So I'll stick
> around for a while just to go with the flow. My initial rating is B.
>
> Dave Baranyi
Um, could you explain what the terms oni and bishiis mean and how they
are related with each other? I'm more familiar with English/European
mythology than Japanese. When I watch Japanese anime refer to yokai,
my tendency is to treat the term as meaning a supernatural being and
leave it to the story to flesh out what type of thing the 'yokai' may
be.
Thanks,
John Howland
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366291 is a reply to message #366290] |
Fri, 13 April 2018 12:57 |
David Johnston
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On 2018-04-13 10:42 AM, Yes wrote:
> Dave Baranyi wrote:
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>> “Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi” is an adaptation of a josei light novel
>> series about a university student named Aoi who can see and interact
>> with yokai and who ends up being taken into the yokai world to be the
>> bride of an oni. It turns out that Aoi's recently deceased
>> grandfather had powerful spiritual powers like Aoi and could travel
>> at will between the human and yokai worlds. Somewhere during his
>> adventures the grandfather accumulated an enormous debt in the yokai
>> world and pledged his granddaughter as collateral against the debt.
>>
>> Aoi is not at all pleased with her late grandfather's action and
>> doesn't want to marry the oni, but in the yokai world her
>> grandfather's debt is now considered to be Aoi's debt, so she will
>> either have to marry the oni or pay off the debt. Aoi pledges to pay
>> off the debt and now needs to find a way to make money in the yokai
>> world – a world in which humans are not necessarily welcome by all.
>>
>> Although this series is based upon a josei novel series it feels a
>> lot like a traditional shoujo story. Aoi is fairly ordinary, other
>> than her spiritual abilities. Many of the yokai that she meets up
>> with, including the oni, are bishiis. And it seems that most everyone
>> wants her as a bride, or as a bride for some younger relative.
>>
>> The set-up and story are very familiar but the first two episodes are
>> still light, cute, and entertaining. Nothing original or unique has
>> shown up yet but that hasn't been a big drawback. So I'll stick
>> around for a while just to go with the flow. My initial rating is B.
>>
>> Dave Baranyi
>
> Um, could you explain what the terms oni and bishiis mean and how they
> are related with each other? I'm more familiar with English/European
> mythology than Japanese. When I watch Japanese anime refer to yokai,
> my tendency is to treat the term as meaning a supernatural being and
> leave it to the story to flesh out what type of thing the 'yokai' may
> be.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Howland
>
The word "oni" is usually translated into "ogre" in English reflecting
the fact that they were historically portrayed as large brutish male
humanoids with fangs who dress in animal skins. So apparently this is
an oni in name only. A bishounen or "bishii" translates to "beautiful
boy", the inhumanly pretty and a bit feminine template common among
Japanese comics aimed at adolescent females for the same reason boy
bands are popular in that age group.
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366327 is a reply to message #366291] |
Sun, 15 April 2018 10:24 |
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Originally posted by: Yes
David Johnston wrote:
-- snipped --
>>
>> Um, could you explain what the terms oni and bishiis mean and how
>> they are related with each other? I'm more familiar with
>> English/European mythology than Japanese. When I watch Japanese
>> anime refer to yokai, my tendency is to treat the term as meaning a
>> supernatural being and leave it to the story to flesh out what type
>> of thing the 'yokai' may be.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John Howland
>>
>
> The word "oni" is usually translated into "ogre" in English
> reflecting the fact that they were historically portrayed as large
> brutish male humanoids with fangs who dress in animal skins. So
> apparently this is an oni in name only. A bishounen or "bishii"
> translates to "beautiful boy", the inhumanly pretty and a bit
> feminine template common among Japanese comics aimed at adolescent
> females for the same reason boy bands are popular in that age group.
Nice to know. It's fun to watch the anime and be introduced to a
mythology which has a different history and philosophy than European
mythology. I've enjoyed watching the series involving an MC named
Natsume and another series involving a shapeshifting entity called, I
think, tengu and they can be but not always preyed upon as food by
another type of entity that is humanoid in appearance. I don't
remember the series' name involving the tengu but hope that it will be
continued.
John
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366333 is a reply to message #366327] |
Sun, 15 April 2018 13:37 |
Dave Baranyi
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On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 10:24:10 AM UTC-4, Yes wrote:
> David Johnston wrote:
>
> -- snipped --
>>>
>>> Um, could you explain what the terms oni and bishiis mean and how
>>> they are related with each other? I'm more familiar with
>>> English/European mythology than Japanese. When I watch Japanese
>>> anime refer to yokai, my tendency is to treat the term as meaning a
>>> supernatural being and leave it to the story to flesh out what type
>>> of thing the 'yokai' may be.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John Howland
>>>
>>
>> The word "oni" is usually translated into "ogre" in English
>> reflecting the fact that they were historically portrayed as large
>> brutish male humanoids with fangs who dress in animal skins. So
>> apparently this is an oni in name only. A bishounen or "bishii"
>> translates to "beautiful boy", the inhumanly pretty and a bit
>> feminine template common among Japanese comics aimed at adolescent
>> females for the same reason boy bands are popular in that age group.
>
> Nice to know. It's fun to watch the anime and be introduced to a
> mythology which has a different history and philosophy than European
> mythology. I've enjoyed watching the series involving an MC named
> Natsume and another series involving a shapeshifting entity called, I
> think, tengu and they can be but not always preyed upon as food by
> another type of entity that is humanoid in appearance. I don't
> remember the series' name involving the tengu but hope that it will be
> continued.
>
>
> John
Sorry for not explaining the terms in my original post. Most of the regulars here at r.a.a.m. know the terms already.
"Natsume Yuujinchou", aka, "Natsume's Book of Friends" is a great series and I've enjoyed it a lot. Natsume has a lot in common with Aoi and can also see and interact with yokai.
A "Tengu" is a crow-like creature, typically with humanoid features and a very long nose. They aren't usually shape-shifters.
A "Tanuki" is a Japanese "raccoon-dog" which is associated with shape-shifting and playing tricks.
Japanese foxes, "Kitsune" are also associated with shape-shifting and being tricksters, but they are distinctly different from Tanuki.
So you may be thinking of the series "Uchouten Kazoku", aka, "Eccentric Family" which is a story about a family of Tanuki and their interactions with humans and with Tengu.
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366338 is a reply to message #366270] |
Sun, 15 April 2018 18:39 |
David Johnston
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On 2018-04-12 6:25 PM, Dave Baranyi wrote:
> “Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi” is an adaptation of a josei light novel series about a university student named Aoi who can see and interact with yokai and who ends up being taken into the yokai world to be the bride of an oni. It turns out that Aoi's recently deceased grandfather had powerful spiritual powers like Aoi and could travel at will between the human and yokai worlds. Somewhere during his adventures the grandfather accumulated an enormous debt in the yokai world and pledged his granddaughter as collateral against the debt.
>
> Aoi is not at all pleased with her late grandfather's action and doesn't want to marry the oni, but in the yokai world her grandfather's debt is now considered to be Aoi's debt, so she will either have to marry the oni or pay off the debt. Aoi pledges to pay off the debt and now needs to find a way to make money in the yokai world – a world in which humans are not necessarily welcome by all.
>
> Although this series is based upon a josei novel series it feels a lot like a traditional shoujo story. Aoi is fairly ordinary, other than her spiritual abilities. Many of the yokai that she meets up with, including the oni, are bishiis.
So he's a sparkly oni?
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366339 is a reply to message #366338] |
Sun, 15 April 2018 20:02 |
Dave Baranyi
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On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 6:39:27 PM UTC-4, David Johnston wrote:
> On 2018-04-12 6:25 PM, Dave Baranyi wrote:
>> “Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi” is an adaptation of a josei light novel series about a university student named Aoi who can see and interact with yokai and who ends up being taken into the yokai world to be the bride of an oni. It turns out that Aoi's recently deceased grandfather had powerful spiritual powers like Aoi and could travel at will between the human and yokai worlds. Somewhere during his adventures the grandfather accumulated an enormous debt in the yokai world and pledged his granddaughter as collateral against the debt.
>>
>> Aoi is not at all pleased with her late grandfather's action and doesn't want to marry the oni, but in the yokai world her grandfather's debt is now considered to be Aoi's debt, so she will either have to marry the oni or pay off the debt. Aoi pledges to pay off the debt and now needs to find a way to make money in the yokai world – a world in which humans are not necessarily welcome by all.
>>
>> Although this series is based upon a josei novel series it feels a lot like a traditional shoujo story. Aoi is fairly ordinary, other than her spiritual abilities. Many of the yokai that she meets up with, including the oni, are bishiis.
>
> So he's a sparkly oni?
Here he is on the official web site:
http://kakuriyo-anime.com/character/chara_det.php?key=2
The series uses pink flower petals more than sparkles...
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366383 is a reply to message #366333] |
Tue, 17 April 2018 04:31 |
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Originally posted by: Yes
Dave Baranyi wrote:
> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 10:24:10 AM UTC-4, Yes wrote:
>> David Johnston wrote:
>>
>> -- snipped --
>>>>
>>>> Um, could you explain what the terms oni and bishiis mean and
>>>> how they are related with each other? I'm more familiar with
>>>> English/European mythology than Japanese. When I watch Japanese
>>>> anime refer to yokai, my tendency is to treat the term as
>>>> meaning a supernatural being and leave it to the story to flesh
>>>> out what type of thing the 'yokai' may be.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> John Howland
>>>>
>>>
>>> The word "oni" is usually translated into "ogre" in English
>>> reflecting the fact that they were historically portrayed as large
>>> brutish male humanoids with fangs who dress in animal skins. So
>>> apparently this is an oni in name only. A bishounen or "bishii"
>>> translates to "beautiful boy", the inhumanly pretty and a bit
>>> feminine template common among Japanese comics aimed at adolescent
>>> females for the same reason boy bands are popular in that age
>>> group.
>>
>> Nice to know. It's fun to watch the anime and be introduced to a
>> mythology which has a different history and philosophy than European
>> mythology. I've enjoyed watching the series involving an MC named
>> Natsume and another series involving a shapeshifting entity called,
>> I think, tengu and they can be but not always preyed upon as food by
>> another type of entity that is humanoid in appearance. I don't
>> remember the series' name involving the tengu but hope that it will
>> be continued.
>>
>>
>> John
>
> Sorry for not explaining the terms in my original post. Most of the
> regulars here at r.a.a.m. know the terms already.
>
> "Natsume Yuujinchou", aka, "Natsume's Book of Friends" is a great
> series and I've enjoyed it a lot. Natsume has a lot in common with
> Aoi and can also see and interact with yokai.
>
> A "Tengu" is a crow-like creature, typically with humanoid features
> and a very long nose. They aren't usually shape-shifters.
>
> A "Tanuki" is a Japanese "raccoon-dog" which is associated with
> shape-shifting and playing tricks.
>
> Japanese foxes, "Kitsune" are also associated with shape-shifting and
> being tricksters, but they are distinctly different from Tanuki.
>
> So you may be thinking of the series "Uchouten Kazoku", aka,
> "Eccentric Family" which is a story about a family of Tanuki and
> their interactions with humans and with Tengu.
Eccentric Family sounds like the series I was thinking about. I find
it easier to remember the English translations of titles than the
Japanese phrases themselve, so I'm almost always at a loss remembering
the Japanese titles. I used Crunchyroll by way of Roku to follow the
two series. AFAICT, both have wrapped up their seasons, and I haven't
seen anything about if there will be more in either series.
I first was introduced to bits of Japanese mythology through sci-fi.
There was one writer who wrote a novel featuring a nine-tailed fox as
part of the plot - a Japanese-American police officer is murdered but
is resurrected (?) for a limited time by a nine-tail fox to give him a
chance to solve his murder and to protect his adult daughter.
John
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366407 is a reply to message #366383] |
Tue, 17 April 2018 14:55 |
Dave Baranyi
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On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:31:21 AM UTC-4, Yes wrote:
> Dave Baranyi wrote:
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>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 10:24:10 AM UTC-4, Yes wrote:
>>> David Johnston wrote:
>>>
>>> -- snipped --
>>>> >
>>>> > Um, could you explain what the terms oni and bishiis mean and
>>>> > how they are related with each other? I'm more familiar with
>>>> > English/European mythology than Japanese. When I watch Japanese
>>>> > anime refer to yokai, my tendency is to treat the term as
>>>> > meaning a supernatural being and leave it to the story to flesh
>>>> > out what type of thing the 'yokai' may be.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > John Howland
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> The word "oni" is usually translated into "ogre" in English
>>>> reflecting the fact that they were historically portrayed as large
>>>> brutish male humanoids with fangs who dress in animal skins. So
>>>> apparently this is an oni in name only. A bishounen or "bishii"
>>>> translates to "beautiful boy", the inhumanly pretty and a bit
>>>> feminine template common among Japanese comics aimed at adolescent
>>>> females for the same reason boy bands are popular in that age
>>>> group.
>>>
>>> Nice to know. It's fun to watch the anime and be introduced to a
>>> mythology which has a different history and philosophy than European
>>> mythology. I've enjoyed watching the series involving an MC named
>>> Natsume and another series involving a shapeshifting entity called,
>>> I think, tengu and they can be but not always preyed upon as food by
>>> another type of entity that is humanoid in appearance. I don't
>>> remember the series' name involving the tengu but hope that it will
>>> be continued.
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>
>> Sorry for not explaining the terms in my original post. Most of the
>> regulars here at r.a.a.m. know the terms already.
>>
>> "Natsume Yuujinchou", aka, "Natsume's Book of Friends" is a great
>> series and I've enjoyed it a lot. Natsume has a lot in common with
>> Aoi and can also see and interact with yokai.
>>
>> A "Tengu" is a crow-like creature, typically with humanoid features
>> and a very long nose. They aren't usually shape-shifters.
>>
>> A "Tanuki" is a Japanese "raccoon-dog" which is associated with
>> shape-shifting and playing tricks.
>>
>> Japanese foxes, "Kitsune" are also associated with shape-shifting and
>> being tricksters, but they are distinctly different from Tanuki.
>>
>> So you may be thinking of the series "Uchouten Kazoku", aka,
>> "Eccentric Family" which is a story about a family of Tanuki and
>> their interactions with humans and with Tengu.
>
> Eccentric Family sounds like the series I was thinking about. I find
> it easier to remember the English translations of titles than the
> Japanese phrases themselve, so I'm almost always at a loss remembering
> the Japanese titles. I used Crunchyroll by way of Roku to follow the
> two series. AFAICT, both have wrapped up their seasons, and I haven't
> seen anything about if there will be more in either series.
>
> I first was introduced to bits of Japanese mythology through sci-fi.
> There was one writer who wrote a novel featuring a nine-tailed fox as
> part of the plot - a Japanese-American police officer is murdered but
> is resurrected (?) for a limited time by a nine-tail fox to give him a
> chance to solve his murder and to protect his adult daughter.
>
> John
Did you see both seasons of Eccentric Family? The first season came out in 2013 and the second one came out in 2017.
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366408 is a reply to message #366407] |
Tue, 17 April 2018 15:46 |
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Originally posted by: Yes
Dave Baranyi wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:31:21 AM UTC-4, Yes wrote:
>> Dave Baranyi wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 10:24:10 AM UTC-4, Yes wrote:
>>>> David Johnston wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -- snipped --
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Um, could you explain what the terms oni and bishiis mean
>>>> > > and how they are related with each other? I'm more
>>>> > > familiar with English/European mythology than Japanese.
>>>> > > When I watch Japanese anime refer to yokai, my tendency is
>>>> > > to treat the term as meaning a supernatural being and leave
>>>> > > it to the story to flesh out what type of thing the 'yokai'
>>>> > > may be.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > John Howland
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > The word "oni" is usually translated into "ogre" in English
>>>> > reflecting the fact that they were historically portrayed as
>>>> > large brutish male humanoids with fangs who dress in animal
>>>> > skins. So apparently this is an oni in name only. A
>>>> > bishounen or "bishii" translates to "beautiful boy", the
>>>> > inhumanly pretty and a bit feminine template common among
>>>> > Japanese comics aimed at adolescent females for the same
>>>> > reason boy bands are popular in that age group.
>>>>
>>>> Nice to know. It's fun to watch the anime and be introduced to
>>>> a mythology which has a different history and philosophy than
>>>> European mythology. I've enjoyed watching the series involving
>>>> an MC named Natsume and another series involving a
>>>> shapeshifting entity called, I think, tengu and they can be but
>>>> not always preyed upon as food by another type of entity that
>>>> is humanoid in appearance. I don't remember the series' name
>>>> involving the tengu but hope that it will be continued.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>
>>> Sorry for not explaining the terms in my original post. Most of
>>> the regulars here at r.a.a.m. know the terms already.
>>>
>>> "Natsume Yuujinchou", aka, "Natsume's Book of Friends" is a great
>>> series and I've enjoyed it a lot. Natsume has a lot in common with
>>> Aoi and can also see and interact with yokai.
>>>
>>> A "Tengu" is a crow-like creature, typically with humanoid
>>> features and a very long nose. They aren't usually shape-shifters.
>>>
>>> A "Tanuki" is a Japanese "raccoon-dog" which is associated with
>>> shape-shifting and playing tricks.
>>>
>>> Japanese foxes, "Kitsune" are also associated with shape-shifting
>>> and being tricksters, but they are distinctly different from
>>> Tanuki.
>>>
>>> So you may be thinking of the series "Uchouten Kazoku", aka,
>>> "Eccentric Family" which is a story about a family of Tanuki and
>>> their interactions with humans and with Tengu.
>>
>> Eccentric Family sounds like the series I was thinking about. I
>> find it easier to remember the English translations of titles than
>> the Japanese phrases themselve, so I'm almost always at a loss
>> remembering the Japanese titles. I used Crunchyroll by way of Roku
>> to follow the two series. AFAICT, both have wrapped up their
>> seasons, and I haven't seen anything about if there will be more in
>> either series.
>>
>> I first was introduced to bits of Japanese mythology through sci-fi.
>> There was one writer who wrote a novel featuring a nine-tailed fox
>> as part of the plot - a Japanese-American police officer is
>> murdered but is resurrected (?) for a limited time by a nine-tail
>> fox to give him a chance to solve his murder and to protect his
>> adult daughter.
>>
>> John
>
> Did you see both seasons of Eccentric Family? The first season came
> out in 2013 and the second one came out in 2017.
I watched the second season - the one in which the MC almost becomes
the main dish. Turns out Crunchyroll has both seasons. Nice.
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #366450 is a reply to message #366407] |
Wed, 18 April 2018 12:31 |
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Originally posted by: Yes
Dave Baranyi wrote:
> -- snipped --
>
> Did you see both seasons of Eccentric Family? The first season came
> out in 2013 and the second one came out in 2017.
Started watching first season. Noticed a big change in the drawings of
the characters between the first and second season. The big surprise
was the change in treatment of the MC in the first season compared to
the second season. In the first one, the MC is treated in a more
risque way (gender-bender??term) and his personality seemed a bit more
abrasive compared to what I remember in the second season. I've only
had time to watch the first three episodes, so perhaps his personality
mellows a bit later on in the first season, but so far it feels like
his personality holds true to what you might think of as a 'trickster'.
John
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| Re: Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi - Engaged to an Oni [message #368735 is a reply to message #366333] |
Wed, 06 June 2018 16:59 |
Tank
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:37:43 -0700 (PDT), Dave Baranyi
<davebaranyi@gmail.com> wrote:
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> So you may be thinking of the series "Uchouten Kazoku", aka, "Eccentric Family" which is a story about a family of Tanuki and their interactions with humans and with Tengu.
Late to the party as usual. :D
Just finishing up season 1 of Uchouten Kazoku (2 to go) and I am really
enjoying it. Some smart comedy, although I can't help but be frustrated at
the tanukis' acceptance of their fate to end up in someone's stew. Tanuki
revolt!
--Edwin E.
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