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sid file and player [message #339771] Sun, 19 March 2017 14:12 Go to next message
Vincent is currently offline  Vincent
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Hi all,

I noticed something strange with attached sid file.

This file is played nicely with tinysid (I used linux console version
http://www-stud.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~sinsch/new/ tinysid-Dateien/downloads/tinysid-linux.tar.gzip).

But with any program based on libsidplayfp, this file is played horribly.

Is this sid file bad ? Or is it a bug in libsidplayfp ?

What are your opinions about that ?

Vincent
Re: sid file and player [message #339826 is a reply to message #339771] Mon, 20 March 2017 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
J. Robertson is currently offline  J. Robertson
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:12:43 +0100, Vincent <vince_161@outlook.be>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I noticed something strange with attached sid file.
>
> This file is played nicely with tinysid (I used linux console version
> http://www-stud.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~sinsch/new/ tinysid-Dateien/downloads/tinysid-linux.tar.gzip).
>
> But with any program based on libsidplayfp, this file is played horribly.
>
> Is this sid file bad ? Or is it a bug in libsidplayfp ?
>
> What are your opinions about that ?
>
> Vincent

Many people aren't going to see the attachment on your post as this
isn't a binary newsgroup and many news servers will drop the
attachment. Just a FYI in case.

As for the rest, I'd play the sid file on an actual C64 or within the
latest version of the VICE emulator (which, IIRC, uses ReSID) and
compare it with both tinysid and any libsidplayfp players and compare.
For the most part you can probably trust VICE in playing it.

Jason
Re: sid file and player [message #339886 is a reply to message #339826] Mon, 20 March 2017 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andreas Kohlbach is currently offline  Andreas Kohlbach
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 07:11:29 -0400, J. Robertson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:12:43 +0100, Vincent <vince_161@outlook.be>
> wrote:
>
>> I noticed something strange with attached sid file.
>>
>> This file is played nicely with tinysid (I used linux console version
>> http://www-stud.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~sinsch/new/ tinysid-Dateien/downloads/tinysid-linux.tar.gzip).
>>
>> But with any program based on libsidplayfp, this file is played horribly.
>>
>> Is this sid file bad ? Or is it a bug in libsidplayfp ?
>>
>> What are your opinions about that ?
>
> Many people aren't going to see the attachment on your post as this
> isn't a binary newsgroup and many news servers will drop the
> attachment. Just a FYI in case.

Including the article itself. I never saw it.

> As for the rest, I'd play the sid file on an actual C64 or within the
> latest version of the VICE emulator (which, IIRC, uses ReSID) and
> compare it with both tinysid and any libsidplayfp players and compare.
> For the most part you can probably trust VICE in playing it.

VICE has a console SID player called vsid. And many people might also
have Video-LAN-Client (VLC) installed and might not expect it to be able
to play SID files. But it does. The OP should try both and compare to
tinysid. I get a

| Last-Modified: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:48:01 GMT
^^^^
from < http://www-stud.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~sinsch/Tiny Sid.htm>. I
just realize I have also linked them on my SID web page and better remove
then now.
--
Andreas
You know you are a redneck if
your parakeet knows the phrase "open up, police!"
Re: sid file and player [message #339935 is a reply to message #339886] Tue, 21 March 2017 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vincent is currently offline  Vincent
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Andreas Kohlbach wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 07:11:29 -0400, J. Robertson wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:12:43 +0100, Vincent <vince_161@outlook.be>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed something strange with attached sid file.
>>>
>>> This file is played nicely with tinysid (I used linux console version
>>> http://www-stud.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~sinsch/new/ tinysid-Dateien/downloads/tinysid-linux.tar.gzip).
>>>
>>> But with any program based on libsidplayfp, this file is played horribly.
>>>
>>> Is this sid file bad ? Or is it a bug in libsidplayfp ?
>>>
>>> What are your opinions about that ?
>>
>> Many people aren't going to see the attachment on your post as this
>> isn't a binary newsgroup and many news servers will drop the
>> attachment. Just a FYI in case.
>
> Including the article itself. I never saw it.
>
>> As for the rest, I'd play the sid file on an actual C64 or within the
>> latest version of the VICE emulator (which, IIRC, uses ReSID) and
>> compare it with both tinysid and any libsidplayfp players and compare.
>> For the most part you can probably trust VICE in playing it.
>
> VICE has a console SID player called vsid. And many people might also
> have Video-LAN-Client (VLC) installed and might not expect it to be able
> to play SID files. But it does. The OP should try both and compare to
> tinysid. I get a
>
> | Last-Modified: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:48:01 GMT
> ^^^^
> from
> < http://www-stud.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~sinsch/Tiny Sid.htm>. I
> just realize I have also linked them on my SID web page and better remove
> then now.

By the way, attached sid file come from your webpage and from
http://www.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~sinsch/kbsid.zip

Why did you remove kbsid.zip file from your web page ?

OK Tinysid is old but it still works fine with alsa-oss plugin :-)

Thanks for your answers.

Vincent
Re: sid file and player [message #339936 is a reply to message #339935] Tue, 21 March 2017 14:39 Go to previous message
Andreas Kohlbach is currently offline  Andreas Kohlbach
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:12:39 +0100, Vincent wrote:
>
> Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> VICE has a console SID player called vsid. And many people might also
>> have Video-LAN-Client (VLC) installed and might not expect it to be able
>> to play SID files. But it does. The OP should try both and compare to
>> tinysid. I get a
>>
>> | Last-Modified: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:48:01 GMT
>> ^^^^
>> from
>> < http://www-stud.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~sinsch/Tiny Sid.htm>. I
>> just realize I have also linked them on my SID web page and better remove
>> then now.
>
> By the way, attached sid file come from your webpage and from
> http://www.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~sinsch/kbsid.zip
>
> Why did you remove kbsid.zip file from your web page ?

That's not my web page. But I had a link to that web page from my SID
related web page, which I just removed due to the fact that TinySID is no
longer maintained.

> OK Tinysid is old but it still works fine with alsa-oss plugin :-)

Might as well be. But why not use maintained software which does not need
helpers like plugins?
--
Andreas
You know you are a redneck if
your parakeet knows the phrase "open up, police!"
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