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| Re: Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer [message #330042 is a reply to message #330041] |
Mon, 11 July 2016 01:29   |
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Plug www.digvis.com into archive.org and you can download the software from old copies of the website. You'll want to go through the history to find the latest version that's been archived. May also want to grab older versions too.
Someone in the San Francisco bay area just posted this on Craigslist about an hour ago.https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/sys/5676993679.html
Getting ready to move and must part with some vintage mac stuff; looking for hobbyist/collector who might get use out of:
1. Powerbook 520C with power supply and (rare) SCSI adapter cable. Boots up (7.1) and works.
2.Powermac 7600/120 also works, running OS9. One of the few early macs with video/frame grabber built in, if I recall correctly
3. Powermac 7100/66. Possibly the last macs to use SCSI, it also uses an AV monitor with built in speakers. I could get it to boot today, always worked in the past.
4. ComputerEyes RT SCSI Video Digitizer, with installation software.
All as is, best offer, part or whole.
From: "kristen.roos@gmail.com" <kristen.roos@gmail.com>
To: Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:01 PM
Subject: Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer
I'm looking for the software that would have come with Digital Vision's ComputerEyes RT Video Digitizer (made around 1990). This will be used on a mac classic II, and possibly on another Quadra model too. It would be great if anyone has any info on the software for this particular device, or other software that might work with the device to capture video and still images with a macintosh classic II with system 7.0 ... or if you have any info on using computereyes in general, thanks!
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| Re: Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer [message #330043 is a reply to message #330042] |
Mon, 11 July 2016 01:41 |
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Check the www.digvis.com link
< http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digvis.com%2F&a mp;sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH5rapo884uNX3AcELrDY0SlRSbR Q>,
doesn't look like its correct.
On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 10:29:49 PM UTC-7, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
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> Plug www.digvis.com
> < http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digvis.com%2F&a mp;sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH5rapo884uNX3AcELrDY0SlRSbR Q>
> into archive.org and you can download the software from old copies of the
> website. You'll want to go through the history to find the latest version
> that's been archived. May also want to grab older versions too.
>
> Someone in the San Francisco bay area just posted this on Craigslist about
> an hour ago.
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/sys/5676993679.html
>
> Getting ready to move and must part with some vintage mac stuff; looking
> for hobbyist/collector who might get use out of:
> 1. Powerbook 520C with power supply and (rare) SCSI adapter cable. Boots
> up (7.1) and works.
> 2.Powermac 7600/120 also works, running OS9. One of the few early macs
> with video/frame grabber built in, if I recall correctly
> 3. Powermac 7100/66. Possibly the last macs to use SCSI, it also uses an
> AV monitor with built in speakers. I could get it to boot today, always
> worked in the past.
> 4. ComputerEyes RT SCSI Video Digitizer, with installation software.
> All as is, best offer, part or whole.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "kriste...@gmail.com <javascript:>" <kriste...@gmail.com
> <javascript:>>
> *To:* Vintage Macs <vintag...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:01 PM
> *Subject:* Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer
>
> I'm looking for the software that would have come with Digital Vision's
> ComputerEyes RT Video Digitizer (made around 1990). This will be used on a
> mac classic II, and possibly on another Quadra model too. It would be great
> if anyone has any info on the software for this particular device, or other
> software that might work with the device to capture video and still images
> with a macintosh classic II with system 7.0 ... or if you have any info on
> using computereyes in general, thanks!
>
>
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| Re: Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer [message #330044 is a reply to message #330043] |
Mon, 11 July 2016 02:32 |
kristen.roos
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thanks for the craigslist link!! Forget my previous comment on
www.digvis.com, I understand it wasn't a link...thanks!
On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 10:41:31 PM UTC-7, kriste...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Check the www.digvis.com link
> < http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digvis.com%2F&a mp;sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH5rapo884uNX3AcELrDY0SlRSbR Q>,
> doesn't look like its correct.
>
> On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 10:29:49 PM UTC-7, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
>>
>> Plug www.digvis.com
>> < http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digvis.com%2F&a mp;sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH5rapo884uNX3AcELrDY0SlRSbR Q>
>> into archive.org and you can download the software from old copies of
>> the website. You'll want to go through the history to find the latest
>> version that's been archived. May also want to grab older versions too.
>>
>> Someone in the San Francisco bay area just posted this on Craigslist
>> about an hour ago.
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/sys/5676993679.html
>>
>> Getting ready to move and must part with some vintage mac stuff; looking
>> for hobbyist/collector who might get use out of:
>> 1. Powerbook 520C with power supply and (rare) SCSI adapter cable. Boots
>> up (7.1) and works.
>> 2.Powermac 7600/120 also works, running OS9. One of the few early macs
>> with video/frame grabber built in, if I recall correctly
>> 3. Powermac 7100/66. Possibly the last macs to use SCSI, it also uses an
>> AV monitor with built in speakers. I could get it to boot today, always
>> worked in the past.
>> 4. ComputerEyes RT SCSI Video Digitizer, with installation software.
>> All as is, best offer, part or whole.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* "kriste...@gmail.com" <kriste...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* Vintage Macs <vintag...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:01 PM
>> *Subject:* Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer
>>
>> I'm looking for the software that would have come with Digital Vision's
>> ComputerEyes RT Video Digitizer (made around 1990). This will be used on a
>> mac classic II, and possibly on another Quadra model too. It would be great
>> if anyone has any info on the software for this particular device, or other
>> software that might work with the device to capture video and still images
>> with a macintosh classic II with system 7.0 ... or if you have any info on
>> using computereyes in general, thanks!
>>
>>
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| Re: Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer [message #330046 is a reply to message #330041] |
Thu, 14 July 2016 14:31 |
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On Monday, 11 July 2016 12:29:43 UTC+10, kriste...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I'm looking for the software that would have come with Digital Vision's
> ComputerEyes RT Video Digitizer (made around 1990). This will be used on a
> mac classic II, and possibly on another Quadra model too. It would be great
> if anyone has any info on the software for this particular device, or other
> software that might work with the device to capture video and still images
> with a macintosh classic II with system 7.0 ... or if you have any info on
> using computereyes in general, thanks!
>
> Hi, I'll take a look for you if haven't had luck with Gregg's reply.
>
try
http://ftp.task.gda.pl/mirror/www.video.ja.net/mice/CU-SeeMe /Mac.CU-SeeMe0.83b3/
windows drivers seem to be good, damn small, transmac is on a different
machine but the size seems to be right.
Your best bet is google, look for ftp sites and move up a lvl you will
normally see mac. Your year is around 1994 ish.
have fun.
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| Re: Driver for Digital Vision ComputerEyes/RT Video Digitizer [message #330047 is a reply to message #330046] |
Tue, 19 July 2016 21:50 |
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thanks to Gregg, I did have luck finding lots of system software here:
https://web.archive.org/web/19961103073750/http://www.digvis .com/softwar2.html
and also purchased the device with system software off the add on
craigslist, and it came with a manual, and original box.
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:08:05 PM UTC-7, Sque wrote:
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>
>
> On Monday, 11 July 2016 12:29:43 UTC+10, kriste...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for the software that would have come with Digital Vision's
>> ComputerEyes RT Video Digitizer (made around 1990). This will be used on a
>> mac classic II, and possibly on another Quadra model too. It would be great
>> if anyone has any info on the software for this particular device, or other
>> software that might work with the device to capture video and still images
>> with a macintosh classic II with system 7.0 ... or if you have any info on
>> using computereyes in general, thanks!
>>
>> Hi, I'll take a look for you if haven't had luck with Gregg's reply.
>>
> try
> http://ftp.task.gda.pl/mirror/www.video.ja.net/mice/CU-SeeMe /Mac.CU-SeeMe0.83b3/
> windows drivers seem to be good, damn small, transmac is on a different
> machine but the size seems to be right.
> Your best bet is google, look for ftp sites and move up a lvl you will
> normally see mac. Your year is around 1994 ish.
> have fun.
>
>
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| Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked [message #330057 is a reply to message #330047] |
Tue, 26 July 2016 08:55 |
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Hey all…
This is kind of a vintage/modern question but it seems likely the vintage group will be able to better answer the questions I have as vintage folks are likely to have modern experience but the reverse is not necessarily true.
I have a XServe Raid hooked up to a G4 XServe running 10.4.x which I have used as a file server. Over the years I have stored files from a bunch of computers (mostly Quadras) onto this system. I chose 10.4 because (if memory serves) 10.4 was the last OS to properly (fully) support multiple forks in files. I am now setting up a Plex media server and would like to re-purpose the XServe RAID for media storage (at least until I outgrow it). I have a new (to me) 2009 XSserve running 10.11.x which is running the Plex software.
Here (finally) are my questions:
Am I correct in that 10.4.x is the last OS which fully supports the classic Mac OS multi-fork architecture (no lost resource forks or corrupted files)?
If I connect the XServe Raid to the new XServe and copy the files to another store point will I corrupt the files in the process?
Would I be able to make a disk image of the drives without losing anything?
Is there any harm (to existing files) in just connecting the XServe Raid to a 10.11.x system?
I can always get the G4 to perform the backup, but would like to connect the XServe Raid to the new XServe so I can use the excess capacity for storage as I copy over countless DVD’s and Blu-Rays.
I still have my multitude of 68K computers and would prefer to not lose the programs stored on my XServe Raid.
Thanks for whatever assistance or thoughts you can offer in this regard.
Derek
P.S. I have tried to contact the folks at http://www.c3-xtech.com about their PATA-SATA converters but get no response… Does anybody have experience with them or know if they are still in business?
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| Re: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked [message #330058 is a reply to message #330057] |
Tue, 26 July 2016 10:47 |
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My OS X knowledge is not up to answering your direct questions, but if
these files are backups you could always archive with StuffIt or binhex and
they'll be safe to move through any modern OS (Linux & Windows included).
Conceivably, the 10.4 machine could even archive inbound files
automatically for you and then store on the remote modern server.
That's not as simple a solution, but may be the most fool-proof. I made the
mistake of storing a bunch of stuff native on a Linux netatalk server once
and not moving it off/archiving from a native Mac machine, so lots of file
corruption. :)
How much space do you need for classic files? I just have a G4 tower with a
couple 80GB drives and have a long ways to go, but also not a lot of files
& machines...
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Derek Morton <thespif@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hey all…
>
> This is kind of a vintage/modern question but it seems likely the vintage
> group will be able to better answer the questions I have as vintage folks
> are likely to have modern experience but the reverse is not necessarily
> true.
>
> I have a XServe Raid hooked up to a G4 XServe running 10.4.x which I have
> used as a file server. Over the years I have stored files from a bunch of
> computers (mostly Quadras) onto this system. I chose 10.4 because (if
> memory serves) 10.4 was the last OS to properly (fully) support multiple
> forks in files. I am now setting up a Plex media server and would like to
> re-purpose the XServe RAID for media storage (at least until I outgrow
> it). I have a new (to me) 2009 XSserve running 10.11.x which is running
> the Plex software.
>
> Here (finally) are my questions:
>
> Am I correct in that 10.4.x is the last OS which fully supports the
> classic Mac OS multi-fork architecture (no lost resource forks or corrupted
> files)?
>
> If I connect the XServe Raid to the new XServe and copy the files to
> another store point will I corrupt the files in the process?
>
> Would I be able to make a disk image of the drives without losing anything?
>
> Is there any harm (to existing files) in just connecting the XServe Raid
> to a 10.11.x system?
>
> I can always get the G4 to perform the backup, but would like to connect
> the XServe Raid to the new XServe so I can use the excess capacity for
> storage as I copy over countless DVD’s and Blu-Rays.
>
> I still have my multitude of 68K computers and would prefer to not lose
> the programs stored on my XServe Raid.
>
> Thanks for whatever assistance or thoughts you can offer in this regard.
>
> Derek
>
> P.S. I have tried to contact the folks at http://www.c3-xtech.com about
> their PATA-SATA converters but get no response… Does anybody have
> experience with them or know if they are still in business?
>
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| Re: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked [message #330059 is a reply to message #330057] |
Tue, 26 July 2016 18:28 |
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The best way to ensure the resource forks are preserved is to use a Mac that supports the Apple Double system (which is what they called the dual forks) and pack those files into Stuffit archive files. If a Stuffit archive loses its resource fork, later versions of Stuffit can still extract them. The Stuffit files may be moved through any other system without problems.
Do NOT use Self-Extracting Archive! .SEA files are beyond recovery if they lose their resource forks. That's why .SEA files were always encoded with MacBinary .BIN or BinHex .HQX so they could be moved around as text files.
BinHex actually started on CompuServe as a way to send binary files because not all of CompuServe's servers and routers were 8 bit 'clean'. Some of the main Internet systems also were that way. Since the bulk of data that was sent across the Internet in its early years was English text, the amount of data sent could be reduced by 1/8 simply by assuming the (IIRC) least significant bit was always zero, as it is for all the ASCII characters used in English.
Try to send a binary file through that, where some bytes have LSB that's 1, and you get garbage on the other end. BinHex encodes each byte to one or more 7 bit ASCII characters, which does increase the file size, but ensures it will pass cleanly through any server or router that converts all LSB's to zero. (There should not be any such still in active use.)
MacBinary uses a larger alphabet of text characters, where some have LSBs that are 1, so the encoded file size is about the same as the binary original. MacBinary (and UUencode and other similar schemes) were used to post binary files to USENET and to bypass e-mail filters that blocked executable or all non-text attachments.
Many Mac software websites used to have two or three test files to download, one in MacBinary, one in BinHex and sometimes a 'bare' Stuffit archive. the object of that was to try downloading the archive, then the BIN then the HQX, to see which format of the big download you could get without corruption. If you couldn't download any of them cleanly, your next step was calling the ISP to find out what they were doing that was corrupting your downloads.
From: Derek Morton <thespif@comcast.net>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:55 AM
Subject: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked
Hey all…
This is kind of a vintage/modern question but it seems likely the vintage group will be able to better answer the questions I have as vintage folks are likely to have modern experience but the reverse is not necessarily true.
I have a XServe Raid hooked up to a G4 XServe running 10.4.x which I have used as a file server. Over the years I have stored files from a bunch of computers (mostly Quadras) onto this system. I chose 10.4 because (if memory serves) 10.4 was the last OS to properly (fully) support multiple forks in files. I am now setting up a Plex media server and would like to re-purpose the XServe RAID for media storage (at least until I outgrow it). I have a new (to me) 2009 XSserve running 10.11.x which is running the Plex software.
Here (finally) are my questions:
Am I correct in that 10.4.x is the last OS which fully supports the classic Mac OS multi-fork architecture (no lost resource forks or corrupted files)?
If I connect the XServe Raid to the new XServe and copy the files to another store point will I corrupt the files in the process?
Would I be able to make a disk image of the drives without losing anything?
Is there any harm (to existing files) in just connecting the XServe Raid to a 10.11.x system?
I can always get the G4 to perform the backup, but would like to connect the XServe Raid to the new XServe so I can use the excess capacity for storage as I copy over countless DVD’s and Blu-Rays.
I still have my multitude of 68K computers and would prefer to not lose the programs stored on my XServe Raid.
Thanks for whatever assistance or thoughts you can offer in this regard.
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| Re: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked [message #330060 is a reply to message #330057] |
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10.11 certainly does support files with resource forks, at the very least the support has to stay around for Carbon apps which can use old-style resources. And of course, many Mac users still have personal files with resource forks.
Things can get complicated when moving multi-fork files onto non-Apple file systems (like SMB or FAT32), this usually works but I believe will add a separate ._ file.
Copying to/from HFS+ or AFP volumes, the resource fork should travel fine though.
Afraid I don’t know anything about Xserve Raid.
Brendan
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> This is kind of a vintage/modern question but it seems likely the vintage group will be able to better answer the questions I have as vintage folks are likely to have modern experience but the reverse is not necessarily true.
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> I have a XServe Raid hooked up to a G4 XServe running 10.4.x which I have used as a file server. Over the years I have stored files from a bunch of computers (mostly Quadras) onto this system. I chose 10.4 because (if memory serves) 10.4 was the last OS to properly (fully) support multiple forks in files. I am now setting up a Plex media server and would like to re-purpose the XServe RAID for media storage (at least until I outgrow it). I have a new (to me) 2009 XSserve running 10.11.x which is running the Plex software.
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> Here (finally) are my questions:
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> Am I correct in that 10.4.x is the last OS which fully supports the classic Mac OS multi-fork architecture (no lost resource forks or corrupted files)?
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> If I connect the XServe Raid to the new XServe and copy the files to another store point will I corrupt the files in the process?
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> Would I be able to make a disk image of the drives without losing anything?
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> Is there any harm (to existing files) in just connecting the XServe Raid to a 10.11.x system?
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> I can always get the G4 to perform the backup, but would like to connect the XServe Raid to the new XServe so I can use the excess capacity for storage as I copy over countless DVD’s and Blu-Rays.
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> I still have my multitude of 68K computers and would prefer to not lose the programs stored on my XServe Raid.
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> Thanks for whatever assistance or thoughts you can offer in this regard.
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> Derek
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> P.S. I have tried to contact the folks at http://www.c3-xtech.com about their PATA-SATA converters but get no response… Does anybody have experience with them or know if they are still in business?
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| Re: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked [message #330061 is a reply to message #330060] |
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When you put a Macintosh file onto another system (or non-Mac writeable media) where it's resource fork is important, don't monkey around with the file using the other system. In other words, don't open it, edit it then save it back to where it was placed from the Macintosh. Don't use the non-Mac to copy it to another Mac. The resource fork and other data won't go with it. Access the non-Mac system from the other Mac and 'pull' the file.
IMHO, there must have been a meeting at Apple when they invented Apple Double and someone asked "How can we make the Macintosh file storage system as incompatible as possible with all other computers?". Everyone else uses files that are each in one piece. Some filesystems may store various attributes in odd ways and places, but far as I know, in none of them does losing those attributes make the file unusable.
Back in 1995, Apple said they were going to make an Appleshare IP client for Windows 95 - and that announcement was all there was to that. Even unto the early versions of OS X, Apple did nothing to make Mac interoperate directly over networks with non-Mac computers. There was Thursby DAVE, which had pieces to install on both Mac and Windows and (IIRC) made it possible for the Windows side to move and copy Mac files without orphaning them from their resource forks.
It would be nice if simply placing the data and resource fork files into the same folder would make it so a Macintosh could copy them back and fix them. The one and only type of Mac file I know of where doing that does any good is a Quicktime Movie. Do that and Quicktime for Windows will play the video. But since Apple has killed that, along with Safari for Windows... VLC will play Quicktime but I dunno if it can play un-flattened ones.
If only Apple had made it so that writing any file to any non-Mac media or network system automatically flattened the file, there wouldn't be all these issues. There was an Apple Single format which did combine resource and data forks into single files, but far as I know it was never actually used in System or Mac OS.
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From: Brendan Shanks <brendan@bslabs.net>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked
10.11 certainly does support files with resource forks, at the very least the support has to stay around for Carbon apps which can use old-style resources. And of course, many Mac users still have personal files with resource forks.
Things can get complicated when moving multi-fork files onto non-Apple file systems (like SMB or FAT32), this usually works but I believe will add a separate ._ file.
Copying to/from HFS+ or AFP volumes, the resource fork should travel fine though.
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| Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked [message #330063 is a reply to message #330057] |
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I packed all my files and apps into StuffIt files, and made disk images of all of my 800ks, 1.4s, and vintage computer hard drives. I have all of those stored on a FW 800 connected OWC RAID on my 2010 iMac running OS 10.11. No issues with corruption, I can transfer them to my flat-panel iMac running 10.4, and disseminate them from there to earlier iMacs, 68k macs, etc. As others said, StuffIt and/or BinHex are your tools of choice.
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| Re: Multi-fork Support or How to upgrade your OS without getting (de)Forked [message #330064 is a reply to message #330062] |
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NTFS, NT's native filesystem, has always had support for multiple named
forks per file. The new ExFAT has, too. And Mac OS X should retain fork
support, at least at the filesystem level, while it keeps using HFS+.
But if you really want to make sure you don't lose the forks, store the
files inside an HFS/HFS+ disk image. That way, it can be accessed by
emulators and virtual machines, and you can even create a legacy file
server inside that you can run under more modern OSes. I'd say that most
of your files (at least the bigger ones) are plain: pictures, videos,
music, archives, etc. If it's true, you only have to save to the disk
image/virtual machine a small portion of them.
Now, some history. Microsoft implemented fork support in NTFS from the
beginning so Windows NT Server could store Macintosh Files: NT was
developed in the early 90s, back when Windows wasn't as important as it
is now, and the Macintosh had an important market share. Being able to
serve a mix of PCs and Macs was a strong selling point in those days.
Services for Macintosh supported AppleShare and allowed Macintosh users
to store forked files on a PC server, at least up to Windows 2000.
Windows XP and later use an alternate file stream to store the file's
metadata entered using Explorer's Properties dialog. Moving a file to a
FAT32 filesystem is enough to lose those metadata, but at least Explorer
warns you when you try to copy a forked file to a non-forked filesystem.
Sincerely,
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| Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330065 is a reply to message #330064] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 13:44 |
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I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts. These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Thanks for help.
Email to: Bigclaim
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330066 is a reply to message #330065] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 13:52 |
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On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
<vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
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> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
>
D'oh! I just sent a few of them to the electronics recycler a couple
of months ago, because I figured they were too heavy for anybody to be
interested in taking them for the cost of shipping.
What parts are you looking for? I think I still have some roller kits,
fuser and power supplies laying around. May be some other things as
well, I'm currently in the middle of a slow move and some things are
in storage but I can peek around in some boxes.
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330067 is a reply to message #330065] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 14:00 |
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I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy
so shipping may be expensive.
Sent from my Galaxy S6.
On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs" <
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> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
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> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
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> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
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> Thanks for help.
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> Email to: Bigclaim
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> Michael Smith
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330068 is a reply to message #330067] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 14:35 |
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Michael,
I have several in storage,Where are you located. Like Louis said they are heavy (50+ pounds). I am on the West Coast. I believe I also have a couple of LaserWriter cousins also, the HP's.
Phil
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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy so shipping may be expensive.Sent from my Galaxy S6.
On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs" <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts. These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Thanks for help.
Email to: Bigclaim
Michael Smith
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330069 is a reply to message #330068] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 14:49 |
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I have Accel-a-Writer board installed in mine that has some extra ram and faster CPU. If any is interested in upgrading :)
For $55 shipped around the world
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> On 29. jul. 2016, at 20:35, 'Phil Rich' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> Michael,
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> I have several in storage,Where are you located. Like Louis said they are heavy (50+ pounds). I am on the West Coast. I believe I also have a couple of LaserWriter cousins also, the HP's.
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> Phil
> From: Louis Ciotti <lciotti1@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
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> I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy so shipping may be expensive.
> Sent from my Galaxy S6.
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> On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs" <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com <mailto:vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts. These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
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> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
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> Thanks for help.
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> Email to: Bigclaim
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> Michael Smith
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330070 is a reply to message #330066] |
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On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
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> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
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> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt. The ntx needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC controller IIRC. Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them away if you (or anyone else) can arrange pickup in Connecticut. --glen
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330071 is a reply to message #330066] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 00:09 |
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I am overwhelmed - give me a day to properly respond. Thanks.
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From: NODEraser <noderaser@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 10:52 am
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
<vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
>
> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
>
D'oh! I just sent a few of them to the electronics recycler a couple
of months ago, because I figured they were too heavy for anybody to be
interested in taking them for the cost of shipping.
What parts are you looking for? I think I still have some roller kits,
fuser and power supplies laying around. May be some other things as
well, I'm currently in the middle of a slow move and some things are
in storage but I can peek around in some boxes.
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330072 is a reply to message #330067] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 00:10 |
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I need to respond back to you late tomorrow - don't throw it away!!
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From: Louis Ciotti <lciotti1@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 11:00 am
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy so shipping may be expensive.
Sent from my Galaxy S6.
On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs" <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts. These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Thanks for help.
Email to: Bigclaim
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330073 is a reply to message #330068] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 00:13 |
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I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I work in system 7 and 8 on my old Macs
and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell keeping them going - I have 7 and they are all broken
in one way or another
Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't make a lot) and give me a program to pay you for them - I have references.
My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights and won't work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.
OK - so in what city do you live?
Than ks
Michael Smith
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Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 11:36 am
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
Michael,
I have several in storage,Where are you located. Like Louis said they are heavy (50+ pounds). I am on the West Coast. I believe I also have a couple of LaserWriter cousins also, the HP's.
Phil
From: Louis Ciotti <lciotti1@gmail.com>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy so shipping may be expensive.
Sent from my Galaxy S6.
On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs" <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts. These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Thanks for help.
Email to: Bigclaim
Michael Smith
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330074 is a reply to message #330069] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 00:14 |
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OK I am interersted - please let me get back to you later in the day tomorrow
Thanks
M.S.
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Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 11:49 am
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I have Accel-a-Writer board installed in mine that has some extra ram and faster CPU. If any is interested in upgrading :)
For $55 shipped around the world
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Michael,
I have several in storage,Where are you located. Like Louis said they are heavy (50+ pounds). I am on the West Coast. I believe I also have a couple of LaserWriter cousins also, the HP's.
Phil
From: Louis Ciotti <lciotti1@gmail.com>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy so shipping may be expensive.
Sent from my Galaxy S6.
On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs" <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts. These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Thanks for help.
Email to: Bigclaim
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330075 is a reply to message #330070] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 00:17 |
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Just bare with me and let's see how to get them to CA - I need everyone I can find, working or not
I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I work in system 7 and 8 on my old Macs
and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell keeping them going - I have 7 and they are all broken
in one way or another
Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't make a lot) and give me a program to pay you for them - I have references.
My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights and won't work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.
OK - so in what city do you live?
Than ks
Michael Smith
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Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
<vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
>
> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt. The ntx needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC controller IIRC. Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them away if you (or anyone else) can arrange pickup in Connecticut. --glen
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330076 is a reply to message #330073] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 01:10 |
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Michael,
I'm in Orange County by the beach. Where are you?
Phil
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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I work in system 7 and 8 on my old Macs
and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell keeping them going - I have 7 and they are all broken
in one way or another
Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't make a lot) and give me a program to pay you for them - I have references.
My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights and won't work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.
OK - so in what city do you live?
Than ks
Michael Smith
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Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 11:36 am
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
Michael,
I have several in storage,Where are you located. Like Louis said they are heavy (50+ pounds). I am on the West Coast. I believe I also have a couple of LaserWriter cousins also, the HP's.
Phil
From: Louis Ciotti <lciotti1@gmail.com>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy so shipping may be expensive.Sent from my Galaxy S6.
On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs" <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts. These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Thanks for help.
Email to: Bigclaim
Michael Smith
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330077 is a reply to message #330075] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 05:29 |
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If you can find it, HP had a legacy printer software download for old Macintosh for the LaserJet 4, 5 and 6 series printers, but they must have PostScript SIMM or DIMM installed. IIRC the L models are not supported by it, probably no PostScript option for them. Those printers will need an interface option board with Ethernet and/or a LocalTalk/Mac serial port.
LaserJet 4 series uses the MIO type expansion. Laserjet 5, 5M, 5N and 5S series also use MIO. Do not be fooled by Token Ring MIO cards, they are useless (unless for some reason you are stuck maintaining an ancient Token Ring system) unless you get one with a Mac port because you need to connect to a Mac. The 'holy grail' of MIO cards are the ones with Mac, 10 Base-T and 10 Base-2 ports.
Looks like LaserJet 6 only came in L and P models, neither of which had expansion slots. printerworks.com is where you can find all the parts and upgrades, including some parts that can be used to repair LaserWriters due to their common "engines" shared with various HP, Canon and others.
There was a Macintosh kit for the LaserJet II but from what I read on it some years ago it was slow and didn't work too well. HP had absolutely nothing for Mac for the LaserJet III series. There were 3rd party solutions such as PostScript cartridges and interface adapters.
Another thing to look for, which will get you compatibility with many more (but old) printers is PowerPrint. It's a Mac serial port to parallel port adapter cable and a software driver and RIP (Raster Image Processor) that takes print output and converts it to monochrome bitmaps to send to the printer. Caveat, it can be VERY SLOW, minutes per page on most 68k Macs, even on a IIci with 128 meg RAM and a 66Mhx PPC 601 upgrade. I connected up a LaserJet IIID to just such a "Power IIci" and after a couple pages printed using Power Print I gave up on using that for printing from it.
There were several revisions to both the cable and software, so you need to match them. When the company was still in business they'd give you free upgrades to the latest software version supported by whichever cable revision you had.
They also had a network version of PowerPrint. That included a standalone print server to connect the printer to. From what I collected about it, the software looked for a specific name of the print server. I wondered if any server would work if it's name was changed to match the one provided by PowerPrint. I still have a standalone HP JetDirect for parallel printers.
Or you could install Print to PDF then copy the PDF's to a newer computer to print out. http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html
From: bigclaim via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
Just bare with me and let's see how to get them to CA - I need everyone I can find, working or not
I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I work in system 7 and 8 on my old Macs
and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell keeping them going - I have 7 and they are all broken
in one way or another
Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't make a lot) and give me a program to pay you for them - I have references.
My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights and won't work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.
OK - so in what city do you live?
Than ks
Michael Smith
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From: 'Glen' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
<vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
>
> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt. The ntx needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC controller IIRC. Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them away if you (or anyone else) can arrange pickup in Connecticut. --glen --
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330078 is a reply to message #330070] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 12:05 |
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-LaserWriter-16-600PS-Printer-/ 252478014375?hash=item3ac8dcc3a7:g:1IMAAOSw0fhXmQb2
On 07/29/2016 05:33 PM, 'Glen' via Vintage Macs wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
> <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com <mailto:vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>>
> wrote:
>> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
>> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
>>
>> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>>
>> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
>
> Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt.
> The ntx needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC
> controller IIRC. Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them
> away if you (or anyone else) can arrange pickup in Connecticut. --glen
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330079 is a reply to message #330077] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 12:20 |
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Getting them fixed or getting replacement parts might be a problem -
depends on how mechanically (and electrically) inclined you are. I have
refurbished one or two Laserwriters in the past. The go-to for parts
for me was theprinterworks.com. They are in California, probably
Stockton, apparently still operational. I found great human help
whenever I called their phone number. The basic hardware engine for the
contemporary HP and Apple laser printers was the Canon engine.
Apparently Apple had an agreement to have HP manufacture their big
Laserwriters. Some of the parts are interchangeable. I've been out of
this market for a decade, so YMMV.
On 07/30/2016 05:29 AM, 'Gregg Eshelman' via Vintage Macs wrote:
> If you can find it, HP had a legacy printer software download for old
> Macintosh for the LaserJet 4, 5 and 6 series printers, but they must
> have PostScript SIMM or DIMM installed. IIRC the L models are not
> supported by it, probably no PostScript option for them. Those
> printers will need an interface option board with Ethernet and/or a
> LocalTalk/Mac serial port.
>
> LaserJet 4 series uses the MIO type expansion. Laserjet 5, 5M, 5N and
> 5S series also use MIO. Do not be fooled by Token Ring MIO cards, they
> are useless (unless for some reason you are stuck maintaining an
> ancient Token Ring system) unless you get one with a Mac port because
> you need to connect to a Mac. The 'holy grail' of MIO cards are the
> ones with Mac, 10 Base-T and 10 Base-2 ports.
>
> Looks like LaserJet 6 only came in L and P models, neither of which
> had expansion slots. printerworks.com is where you can find all the
> parts and upgrades, including some parts that can be used to repair
> LaserWriters due to their common "engines" shared with various HP,
> Canon and others.
>
> There was a Macintosh kit for the LaserJet II but from what I read on
> it some years ago it was slow and didn't work too well. HP had
> absolutely nothing for Mac for the LaserJet III series. There were 3rd
> party solutions such as PostScript cartridges and interface adapters.
>
> Another thing to look for, which will get you compatibility with many
> more (but old) printers is PowerPrint. It's a Mac serial port to
> parallel port adapter cable and a software driver and RIP (Raster
> Image Processor) that takes print output and converts it to monochrome
> bitmaps to send to the printer. Caveat, it can be VERY SLOW, minutes
> per page on most 68k Macs, even on a IIci with 128 meg RAM and a 66Mhx
> PPC 601 upgrade. I connected up a LaserJet IIID to just such a "Power
> IIci" and after a couple pages printed using Power Print I gave up on
> using that for printing from it.
>
> There were several revisions to both the cable and software, so you
> need to match them. When the company was still in business they'd give
> you free upgrades to the latest software version supported by
> whichever cable revision you had.
>
> They also had a network version of PowerPrint. That included a
> standalone print server to connect the printer to. From what I
> collected about it, the software looked for a specific name of the
> print server. I wondered if any server would work if it's name was
> changed to match the one provided by PowerPrint. I still have a
> standalone HP JetDirect for parallel printers.
>
> Or you could install Print to PDF then copy the PDF's to a newer
> computer to print out. http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
> *From:* bigclaim via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
> *To:* vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2016 10:17 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>
> Just bare with me and let's see how to get them to CA - I need
> everyone I can find, working or not
>
> I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I
> work in system 7 and 8 on my old Macs
> and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell
> keeping them going - I have 7 and they are all broken
> in one way or another
>
> Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't
> make a lot) and give me a program to pay you for them - I have
> references.
>
> My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights
> and won't work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.
>
> OK - so in what city do you live?
>
> Than ks
>
> Michael Smith
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Glen' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
> To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 2:34 pm
> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
> <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for
> parts.
>> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
>>
>> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>>
>> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
>
> Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and
> IInt. The ntx needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt
> needs the DC controller IIRC. Too heavy and too and hard to ship.
> Love to give them away if you (or anyone else) can arrange pickup
> in Connecticut. --glen
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330080 is a reply to message #330079] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 16:50 |
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On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 9:20 AM, coverturtle <coverturtle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently Apple had an agreement to have HP
> manufacture their big Laserwriters. Some of the parts are interchangeable.
> I've been out of this market for a decade, so YMMV.
>
All of the Apple LaserWriter printers (and many other printers of that
era) were based on Canon designs using licensed technology, and many
of the internal mechanical parts are directly compatible. The
LaserWriter and HP LaserJet were both Canon CX, the LaserWriter II and
HP LaserJet 2/3 were Canon SX. However, they had different cases and
formatting/interface electronics. So, if you can some of the other
models for cheap or free, you can swap a lot of parts over from them
as well. However, I'll be that the HP and Apple printers are probably
the ones that survived. The Printer Works has a cross-refernece list
for the Canon-based printers here:
http://206.180.224.221/Service/XrefList.html
The early StyleWriter printers used Canon print engines as well, until
the 4000 series when they were rebadged DeskJet printers built by HP.
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330081 is a reply to message #330076] |
Sun, 31 July 2016 00:00 |
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Phil
I am responding to you -
You said you're in OCnty
I am in Palm Springs but if you have what I need I will get to you as soon as possible.
Can you email me directly to bigclaim@aol.com
and update me on what you have and all the particulars and Ill respond asap
Thanks
M. Smith
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From: 'Phil Rich' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
Michael,
I'm in Orange County by the beach. Where are you?
Phil
From: bigclaim via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I work in system 7 and 8 on my old Macs
and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell keeping them going - I have 7 and they are all broken
in one way or another
Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't make a lot) and give me a program to pay you for them - I have references.
My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights and won't work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.
OK - so in what city do you live?
Than ks
Michael Smith
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From: 'Phil Rich' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 11:36 am
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
Michael,
I have several in storage,Where are you located. Like Louis said they are heavy (50+ pounds). I am on the West Coast. I believe I also have a couple of LaserWriter cousins also, the HP's.
Phil
From: Louis Ciotti <lciotti1@gmail.com>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy so shipping may be expensive.
Sent from my Galaxy S6.
On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs" <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts. These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Thanks for help.
Email to: Bigclaim
Michael Smith
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter // today Sunday Pickup? [message #330082 is a reply to message #330076] |
Sun, 31 July 2016 11:57 |
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Phil
It is Sunday 9am
I am going to church in Riverside from 9-11
After that I can come to you and pickup laser writers
Can you call me with directions and details?
Michael Smith 760-808-1387
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From: 'Phil Rich' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
Michael,
I'm in Orange County by the beach. Where are you?
Phil
From: bigclaim via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I work in system 7 and 8 on my old Macs
and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell keeping them going - I have 7 and they are all broken
in one way or another
Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't make a lot) and give me a program to pay you for them - I have references.
My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights and won't work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.
OK - so in what city do you live?
Than ks
Michael Smith
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Phil Rich' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 11:36 am
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
Michael,
I have several in storage,Where are you located. Like Louis said they are heavy (50+ pounds). I am on the West Coast. I believe I also have a couple of LaserWriter cousins also, the HP's.
Phil
From: Louis Ciotti <lciotti1@gmail.com>
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy so shipping may be expensive.
Sent from my Galaxy S6.
On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs" <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts. These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Thanks for help.
Email to: Bigclaim
Michael Smith
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330091 is a reply to message #330081] |
Fri, 12 August 2016 17:20 |
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Is anyone interested in the fusers or power supplies?
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 9:00 PM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
<vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Phil
> I am responding to you -
>
> You said you're in OCnty
>
> I am in Palm Springs but if you have what I need I will get to you as soon
> as possible.
>
> Can you email me directly to bigclaim@aol.com
> and update me on what you have and all the particulars and Ill respond asap
>
> Thanks
>
> M. Smith
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Phil Rich' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
> To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 10:10 pm
> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>
> Michael,
>
> I'm in Orange County by the beach. Where are you?
>
> Phil
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bigclaim via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>
> I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I work in
> system 7 and 8 on my old Macs
> and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell keeping them
> going - I have 7 and they are all broken
> in one way or another
>
> Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't make a
> lot) and give me a program to pay you for them - I have references.
>
> My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights and won't
> work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.
>
> OK - so in what city do you live?
>
> Than ks
>
> Michael Smith
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Phil Rich' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
> To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 11:36 am
> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>
> Michael,
>
> I have several in storage,Where are you located. Like Louis said they are
> heavy (50+ pounds). I am on the West Coast. I believe I also have a couple
> of LaserWriter cousins also, the HP's.
>
> Phil
> ________________________________
> From: Louis Ciotti <lciotti1@gmail.com>
> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>
> I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is heavy so
> shipping may be expensive.
> Sent from my Galaxy S6.
>
> On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs"
> <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
>
> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
>
> Thanks for help.
>
> Email to: Bigclaim
>
> Michael Smith
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter [message #330092 is a reply to message #330091] |
Fri, 12 August 2016 18:36 |
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Yes,
I would be interested in the Fusers and power supplies
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:20 PM, NODEraser <noderaser@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anyone interested in the fusers or power supplies?
>
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 9:00 PM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
> <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> Phil
>> I am responding to you -
>>
>> You said you're in OCnty
>>
>> I am in Palm Springs but if you have what I need I will get to you as
> soon
>> as possible.
>>
>> Can you email me directly to bigclaim@aol.com
>> and update me on what you have and all the particulars and Ill respond
> asap
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> M. Smith
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Phil Rich' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
>> To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 10:10 pm
>> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I'm in Orange County by the beach. Where are you?
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: bigclaim via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
>> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>>
>> I need everyone of them - I don't know ANYONE that uses them - I work in
>> system 7 and 8 on my old Macs
>> and they can only print to the laserwriters - it's been hell keeping them
>> going - I have 7 and they are all broken
>> in one way or another
>>
>> Work with me and help me (I am just an assistant teacher and don't make a
>> lot) and give me a program to pay you for them - I have references.
>>
>> My #7 printer went bad to day - - side makes 2 blinking red lights and
> won't
>> work - most of the motherboards have gone bad.
>>
>> OK - so in what city do you live?
>>
>> Than ks
>>
>> Michael Smith
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Phil Rich' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
>> To: vintage-macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 11:36 am
>> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I have several in storage,Where are you located. Like Louis said they are
>> heavy (50+ pounds). I am on the West Coast. I believe I also have a
> couple
>> of LaserWriter cousins also, the HP's.
>>
>> Phil
>> ________________________________
>> From: Louis Ciotti <lciotti1@gmail.com>
>> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 11:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
>>
>> I may have one but may have sent it to the recycling center. It is
> heavy so
>> shipping may be expensive.
>> Sent from my Galaxy S6.
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2016 1:44 PM, "bigclaim via Vintage Macs"
>> <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
>> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
>>
>> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>>
>> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
>>
>> Thanks for help.
>>
>> Email to: Bigclaim
>>
>> Michael Smith
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter //I have some Apple Laserwriters [message #335146 is a reply to message #330070] |
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I have some Apple Laserwriters. Feel free to call me about them. Michael Smith 760-808-1387 California SoCal
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Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs
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> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
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> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
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> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt. The ntx needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC controller IIRC. Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them away if you (or anyone else) can arrange pickup in Connecticut. --glen
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter //I have some Apple Laserwriters [message #335151 is a reply to message #335146] |
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Yo ... Michael,
I sent you a private email. Please respond!
Phil
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Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter //I have some Apple Laserwriters
I have some Apple Laserwriters. Feel free to call me about them. Michael Smith 760-808-1387 California SoCal
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Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
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> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
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> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt. The ntx needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC controller IIRC. Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them away if you (or anyone else) can arrange pickup in Connecticut. --glen --
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter //I have some Apple Laserwriters [message #335167 is a reply to message #335146] |
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I have a couple too! Do you know of a method to connect them to a
modern Mac? (USB)
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Joel Feltman
THINK TANK TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
Lake Worth, FL
On Jan 4, 2017, at 11:54 PM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs wrote:
I have some Apple Laserwriters. Feel free to call me about them.
Michael Smith 760-808-1387 California SoCal
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From: 'Glen' via Vintage Macs <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com>
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Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
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> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for
parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
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> Anyone have any - know where I could find them?
>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
Like others, I have a couple of old LaserWriters, a IIntx and IInt.
The ntx needs the a feed roller replacement and the nt needs the DC
controller IIRC. Too heavy and too and hard to ship. Love to give them
away if you (or anyone else) can arrange pickup in Connecticut. --glen
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter //I have some Apple Laserwriters [message #335168 is a reply to message #335167] |
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On 1/5/17 2:45 PM, Joel Feltman wrote:
> I have a couple too! Do you know of a method to connect them to a
> modern Mac? (USB)
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> Joel Feltman
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Around X.4 (I think) the re was a change to networking, I seem to recall
it requires an older 10x hub connected to newer network. I'll see if i
can find a reference.
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| Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter //I have some Apple Laserwriters [message #335171 is a reply to message #335167] |
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Ethernet cable if you have a LW IIg. For LW's without an ethernet port, one way would be to find an ethernet to Appletalk converter like Asante made. Not sure if the newer Mac OS's have the LaserWriter driver but he generic postscript driver should work. At least it worked for me when connecting a very old GCC XL20/1200 postscript laser printer to OS 10.11.6
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Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter //I have some Apple Laserwriters
I have a couple too! Do you know of a method to connect them to a modern Mac? (USB)
Regards,Joel FeltmanTHINK TANK TECHNOLOGIES, INC.Lake Worth, FL
On Jan 4, 2017, at 11:54 PM, bigclaim via Vintage Macs wrote:
I have some Apple Laserwriters. Feel free to call me about them. Michael Smith 760-808-1387 California SoCal
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Subject: Re: Finding old Apple Laserwriter
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> I need to buy 1 or more Apple Laserwriter Prints to use and for parts.
> These are called Apple Laserwriter NT, IInt, IIntx, IIg, IIf
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>
> I looked on E Bay and Amazon and Craigslist - nothing.
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