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I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330463] Fri, 14 October 2016 06:05 Go to next message
John A is currently offline  John A
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Hello everyone.

I want to start programming on my IIGS. How do I start? I dont have APW or any of that, however I do have Complete Pascal, but cannot find anything for it like tutorials. I know modern languages, just not this one, or how to do anything on it.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thank you!
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330465 is a reply to message #330463] Fri, 14 October 2016 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 10/14/2016 06:05 AM, John A wrote:
> Hello everyone.
>
> I want to start programming on my IIGS. How do I start? I dont have APW or any of that, however I do have Complete Pascal, but cannot find anything for it like tutorials. I know modern languages, just not this one, or how to do anything on it.
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>
> Thank you!
>
Try http://apple2online.com/index.php?news&nid=65
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330478 is a reply to message #330463] Fri, 14 October 2016 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I want to start programming on my IIGS. How do I start?

I would definitely recommend Opus II:
https://juiced.gs/store/opus-ii-software/

In addition to the compilers and supporting programs, the GS toolbox programming courses will be especially useful if you're just starting out.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330480 is a reply to message #330478] Fri, 14 October 2016 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 6:49:46 PM UTC-4, Aaron Pulver wrote:
>> I want to start programming on my IIGS. How do I start?
>
> I would definitely recommend Opus II:
> https://juiced.gs/store/opus-ii-software/
>
> In addition to the compilers and supporting programs, the GS toolbox programming courses will be especially useful if you're just starting out.

Thanks for your reply. Id be very interested in that, HOWEVER Im not sure if this programming is even something I want to stick with, so I dont know if I want to spednd anything yet.

Anyways, I have Complete Pascal installed. I have also found the example programs for it too. Im stuck right now though. There are no examples on how to make things move, wait functions, etc etc. Anyone know how to make things move or have a wait function?
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330482 is a reply to message #330480] Fri, 14 October 2016 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 7:59:06 PM UTC-4, John A wrote:
> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 6:49:46 PM UTC-4, Aaron Pulver wrote:
>>> I want to start programming on my IIGS. How do I start?
>>
>> I would definitely recommend Opus II:
>> https://juiced.gs/store/opus-ii-software/
>>
>> In addition to the compilers and supporting programs, the GS toolbox programming courses will be especially useful if you're just starting out.
>
> Thanks for your reply. Id be very interested in that, HOWEVER Im not sure if this programming is even something I want to stick with, so I dont know if I want to spednd anything yet.
>
> Anyways, I have Complete Pascal installed. I have also found the example programs for it too. Im stuck right now though. There are no examples on how to make things move, wait functions, etc etc. Anyone know how to make things move or have a wait function?

Actually, I just found the program Callbox. Looks a lot better for the stuff I want to do. Ill install it on my GS tomorrow... Any pointers for Callbox?
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330492 is a reply to message #330463] Sat, 15 October 2016 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Friday, 14 October 2016 23:05:30 UTC+13, John A wrote:
> Hello everyone.
>
> I want to start programming on my IIGS. How do I start? I dont have APW or any of that, however I do have Complete Pascal, but cannot find anything for it like tutorials. I know modern languages, just not this one, or how to do anything on it.
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>
> Thank you!

How about the manual? This site should be known to all IIgs fans:
http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/complete-pascal-was-tm l-pascal-

Also this other site has other programming info:
http://apple2.gs/

Unfortunately some other sites have disappeared including PZ's and Mike Stephens' (aka Polymorph).

Cheers,
Nick.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330493 is a reply to message #330482] Sat, 15 October 2016 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Saturday, 15 October 2016 13:42:36 UTC+13, John A wrote:
> Actually, I just found the program Callbox. Looks a lot better for the stuff I want to do. Ill install it on my GS tomorrow... Any pointers for Callbox?


The website?
http://sowhatsoftware.net/wordpress/?page_id=80

The manual?
http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/call-box-v2-0/

Cheers,
Nick.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330505 is a reply to message #330493] Sat, 15 October 2016 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 1:44:53 AM UTC-4, Nick Westgate wrote:
> On Saturday, 15 October 2016 13:42:36 UTC+13, John A wrote:
>> Actually, I just found the program Callbox. Looks a lot better for the stuff I want to do. Ill install it on my GS tomorrow... Any pointers for Callbox?
>
>
> The website?
> http://sowhatsoftware.net/wordpress/?page_id=80
>
> The manual?
> http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/call-box-v2-0/
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.

Thanks everyone for your help. Im still looking for a tutorial type thing for beginners though for Pascal, or at least some good examples. I have not been able to find much yet, however everything thats been posted will be of great use!

What Im looking for is a source code for a simple game probably. That ways I can see the code for graphics and the movement and stuff.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330508 is a reply to message #330505] Sat, 15 October 2016 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, 16 October 2016 07:05:43 UTC+13, John A wrote:
> What Im looking for is a source code for a simple game probably. That ways I can see the code for graphics and the movement and stuff.

A couple of Mike Stephens' Pascal demos are here:
http://www.retrobattlestations.com/IIgs/Polymorph/

Hopefully he gets his website back up soon ...

Note that he created the Call Box 2.0 System 6 patch listed on their site.

(I know nothing about this stuff except what a quick google told me.)

Cheers,
Nick.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330511 is a reply to message #330508] Sat, 15 October 2016 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 6:42:02 PM UTC-4, Nick Westgate wrote:
> On Sunday, 16 October 2016 07:05:43 UTC+13, John A wrote:
>> What Im looking for is a source code for a simple game probably. That ways I can see the code for graphics and the movement and stuff.
>
> A couple of Mike Stephens' Pascal demos are here:
> http://www.retrobattlestations.com/IIgs/Polymorph/
>
> Hopefully he gets his website back up soon ...
>
> Note that he created the Call Box 2.0 System 6 patch listed on their site.
>
> (I know nothing about this stuff except what a quick google told me.)
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.

Thanks Nick, thats I think what I was wanting.

Ive alos just downloaded GSoft basic, which seems MUCH better for me. I will probably be using a bit of both though.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330520 is a reply to message #330511] Sun, 16 October 2016 05:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've just put my website back online after about a year's hiatus...

The site can now be reached at the following address (my old http (apple2.sytes.net) redirect isn't working just yet):
http://users.tpg.com.au/mstephens73/apple2/

Cheers,
Mike
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330521 is a reply to message #330520] Sun, 16 October 2016 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 5:32:05 AM UTC-4, Polymorph wrote:
> I've just put my website back online after about a year's hiatus...
>
> The site can now be reached at the following address (my old http (apple2.sytes.net) redirect isn't working just yet):
> http://users.tpg.com.au/mstephens73/apple2/
>
> Cheers,
> Mike

THANK YOU! This is what I wanted, some source code! Ill check itout!
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330522 is a reply to message #330520] Sun, 16 October 2016 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 5:32:05 AM UTC-4, Polymorph wrote:
> I've just put my website back online after about a year's hiatus...
>
> The site can now be reached at the following address (my old http (apple2.sytes.net) redirect isn't working just yet):
> http://users.tpg.com.au/mstephens73/apple2/
>
> Cheers,
> Mike

By the way, I dont know if its supposed to but the source code for the coloring is completely messed up.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330531 is a reply to message #330522] Sun, 16 October 2016 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK. So I have been programming in GSoft basic now.

Everything is fine, HOWEVER.

I know that GSoft can have access to quickdraw commands. The basic draw commands work, but the drawstring() does not. It just shows text as ????. Im guessing its because the screen is set for HGR, and not text and graphics? How can I add text? Pascal could do both at the same time...
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330541 is a reply to message #330522] Sun, 16 October 2016 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you elaborate on this a little? What do you mean by "the source code for the coloring is completely messed up"? What are you viewing the source code with?

From memory I provided source code for both Complete Pascal and Orca Pascal. You should open the source code in the respective programming environment.

If you still think that there are issues, I'll take a look tonight when I get home...
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330553 is a reply to message #330541] Mon, 17 October 2016 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 7:05:34 PM UTC-4, Polymorph wrote:
> Can you elaborate on this a little? What do you mean by "the source code for the coloring is completely messed up"? What are you viewing the source code with?
>
> From memory I provided source code for both Complete Pascal and Orca Pascal. You should open the source code in the respective programming environment.
>
> If you still think that there are issues, I'll take a look tonight when I get home...

Oh, that was my fault. Im assuming I should have downloaded the code, put it on a floppy disk, and THEN load into pascal, right? I just opened it in Firefox! Haha.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330595 is a reply to message #330508] Tue, 18 October 2016 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2016-10-15 22:42:01 +0000, Nick Westgate said:

> On Sunday, 16 October 2016 07:05:43 UTC+13, John A wrote:
>> What Im looking for is a source code for a simple game probably. That
>> ways I can see the code for graphics and the movement and stuff.
>
> A couple of Mike Stephens' Pascal demos are here:
> http://www.retrobattlestations.com/IIgs/Polymorph/
>
> Hopefully he gets his website back up soon ...
>
> Note that he created the Call Box 2.0 System 6 patch listed on their site.
>
> (I know nothing about this stuff except what a quick google told me.)
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.

Where's that Call Box 2.0 System 6 patch? I couldn't find it on Mike's site.

- Alex
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330607 is a reply to message #330595] Tue, 18 October 2016 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 00:13:16 UTC+13, Alex Lee wrote:
> Where's that Call Box 2.0 System 6 patch? I couldn't find it on Mike's site.

On the product page:
http://sowhatsoftware.net/wordpress/?page_id=80

Call Box 2.0 patch for System Disk 6.X (FIXCB.img 800,000)
http://sowhatsoftware.net/downloads/FIXCB.img

Cheers,
Nick.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330621 is a reply to message #330607] Tue, 18 October 2016 23:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just a clarification - I had nothing to do with the Call Box 2.0 patch.

I believe that there has been some confusion as *William Stephens* (the guy behind So What Software) and I share the same surname. :-)

Cheers,
Mike
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330623 is a reply to message #330621] Tue, 18 October 2016 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:25:23 UTC+13, Polymorph wrote:
> I believe that there has been some confusion as *William Stephens* (the guy behind So What Software) and I share the same surname. :-)

Ah! True, the confusion is my fault, apologies.

I didn't have any tools handy so just hex edited the file to peek inside
and conflated the names.

Cheers,
Nick.
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330638 is a reply to message #330623] Wed, 19 October 2016 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2016-10-19 03:40:48 +0000, Nick Westgate said:

> On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:25:23 UTC+13, Polymorph wrote:
>> I believe that there has been some confusion as *William Stephens* (the
>> guy behind So What Software) and I share the same surname. :-)
>
> Ah! True, the confusion is my fault, apologies.
>
> I didn't have any tools handy so just hex edited the file to peek inside
> and conflated the names.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.

In any case, thanks to you both for advertantly and inadvertantly
pointing me in the direction of the System 6.0.x patch for Call Box. I
never knew it existed. I'll add it to What is the Apple IIGS's archive
entry for Call Box.

It was also interesting to see the So What Software page again - I was
sure it disappeared several years ago.

- Alex
Re: I want to program on my IIGS... How? [message #330662 is a reply to message #330638] Wed, 19 October 2016 15:44 Go to previous message
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On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 6:12:24 AM UTC-4, Alex Lee wrote:
> On 2016-10-19 03:40:48 +0000, Nick Westgate said:
>
>> On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:25:23 UTC+13, Polymorph wrote:
>>> I believe that there has been some confusion as *William Stephens* (the
>>> guy behind So What Software) and I share the same surname. :-)
>>
>> Ah! True, the confusion is my fault, apologies.
>>
>> I didn't have any tools handy so just hex edited the file to peek inside
>> and conflated the names.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nick.
>
> In any case, thanks to you both for advertantly and inadvertantly
> pointing me in the direction of the System 6.0.x patch for Call Box. I
> never knew it existed. I'll add it to What is the Apple IIGS's archive
> entry for Call Box.
>
> It was also interesting to see the So What Software page again - I was
> sure it disappeared several years ago.
>
> - Alex

I find it awesome to find old websites like that still up!
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