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Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31064] Tue, 01 January 2013 07:06 Go to next message
Gary D. is currently offline  Gary D.
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Pretty far OT but maybe someone can give me a tip to get me off dead center.

I have a new Panasonic TV that is WLAN capable with which I have internet
access (YouTube, etc.) but I have not been able to access my Mac Mini
running 10.6.8 so that I can display my pictures, video clips, etc. on the
TV. I have turned on sharing, set sharing using both AFP and FTP, marked
folders and volumes for sharing and turned off the firewall but I still
can't get connected. Entering the IP address given by the mini for access
in the TV bowser brings up an "can't access" error message. Any ideas about
what I am doing wrong or haven't taken into consideration. Any tips would
be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31065 is a reply to message #31064] Tue, 01 January 2013 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 1, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Gary D. wrote:

> Pretty far OT but maybe someone can give me a tip to get me off dead center.

>

> I have a new Panasonic TV that is WLAN capable with which I have internet access (YouTube, etc.) but I have not been able to access my Mac Mini running 10.6.8 so that I can display my pictures, video clips, etc. on the TV. I have turned on sharing, set sharing using both AFP and FTP, marked folders and volumes for sharing and turned off the firewall but I still can't get connected. Entering the IP address given by the mini for access in the TV bowser brings up an "can't access" error message. Any ideas about what I am doing wrong or haven't taken into consideration. Any tips would be much appreciated.

>

>


Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs.

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31076 is a reply to message #31065] Tue, 01 January 2013 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 1, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Clark Martin wrote:

>

> On Jan 1, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Gary D. wrote:

>

>> Pretty far OT but maybe someone can give me a tip to get me off dead center.

>>

>> I have a new Panasonic TV that is WLAN capable with which I have internet access (YouTube, etc.) but I have not been able to access my Mac Mini running 10.6.8 so that I can display my pictures, video clips, etc. on the TV. I have turned on sharing, set sharing using both AFP and FTP, marked folders and volumes for sharing and turned off the firewall but I still can't get connected. Entering the IP address given by the mini for access in the TV bowser brings up an "can't access" error message. Any ideas about what I am doing wrong or haven't taken into consideration. Any tips would be much appreciated.

>>

>>

>

> Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs.

>


I'm looking in my Sharing Prefs for 10.6.8 on my Mac.
Where do I find something like "SMB"?
I also have a "smart TV" that won't connect to my computer.


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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31085 is a reply to message #31076] Tue, 01 January 2013 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Dale Hoffman wrote:

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> I'm looking in my Sharing Prefs for 10.6.8 on my Mac.

> Where do I find something like "SMB"?

> I also have a "smart TV" that won't connect to my computer.


This is in the option setting in the File Sharing section, It may say SMB or it may just say Windows; I don't have a 10.6 system to hand to check.

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31086 is a reply to message #31085] Tue, 01 January 2013 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bruce,
Thanks. I forgot you need to select the service (File Sharing) in order for its specific options to appear.
Dale


On Jan 1, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

>

> On Jan 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Dale Hoffman wrote:

>

>>

>> I'm looking in my Sharing Prefs for 10.6.8 on my Mac.

>> Where do I find something like "SMB"?

>> I also have a "smart TV" that won't connect to my computer.

>

> This is in the option setting in the File Sharing section, It may say SMB or it may just say Windows; I don't have a 10.6 system to hand to check.

>



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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31144 is a reply to message #31065] Wed, 02 January 2013 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 1:30:49 PM UTC+1, Clark Martin wrote:
>

>

> Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie

> Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs.

>


Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway.

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31169 is a reply to message #31144] Wed, 02 January 2013 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Gary D. <G.Dearth@web.de> wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 1:30:49 PM UTC+1, Clark Martin wrote:

>

> Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs.

>

> Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway.


What model TV is it? I'll bet it's looking for a particular Windows-based service, but there may be ways to use a Mac with it.

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31170 is a reply to message #31169] Wed, 02 January 2013 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 02.01.2013, at 17:01, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Gary D. <G.Dearth@web.de> wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 1:30:49 PM UTC+1, Clark Martin wrote:

>

> Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs.

>

> Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway.


What model TV is it? I'll bet it's looking for a particular Windows-based service, but there may be ways to use a Mac with it.


Panasonic TX-L37ETW5 (may be a specific German designation but there should be a US equivalent). Would certainly appreciate finding a solution.

Thanks

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31171 is a reply to message #31144] Wed, 02 January 2013 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 2, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Gary D. wrote:

> Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway.


Don't understand how you enter the Mini sharing password from the TV
set? Does the TV have a keyboard?

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31172 is a reply to message #31170] Wed, 02 January 2013 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 02/01/2013 16:47, "G. E. Dearth" <G.Dearth@web.de> wrote:

> What model TV is it? I'll bet it's looking for a particular Windows-based

> service, but there may be ways to use a Mac with it.

>

>

> Panasonic TX-L37ETW5 (may be a specific German designation but there should be

> a US equivalent). Would certainly appreciate finding a solution.

>

> Thanks

>

> Gary D.


Shouldn't it just connect wirelessly to your router via dhcp using the
wireless key - or wired if it has an ethernet port? Then it would be on the
lan and accessible to the mac. Ignore me if this has been tried......late to
the game.....

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31173 is a reply to message #31171] Wed, 02 January 2013 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Kris Tilford <ktilford1@cox.net> wrote:

> On Jan 2, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Gary D. wrote:

>

>> Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway.

>

> Don't understand how you enter the Mini sharing password from the TV set? Does the TV have a keyboard?



They have an on-screen keyboard you access via the remote, like an Apple TV.

Downside, the sharing stuff seems to be something Apple doesn't support, DNLA:

< http://www.mikefletcher.co.uk/documents/Panasonic%20User%20G uide%20for%20DLNA.pdf>

There are, however, DNLA servers for the Mac :<http://www.tvmobili.com/> < http://www.avsforum.com/t/1415517/best-dlna-server-for-the-m ac>, <http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/good-free-dlna-server-mac/>, < http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f10-music-servers/how-dlna -mac-os-x-server-13635/>

The last link asks specifically about OS X server, but any of those will run just fine in OS X.

TVMobili looks to be the simplest.

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31174 is a reply to message #31172] Wed, 02 January 2013 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Peter Devlin <pdimage@mail.com> wrote:

> On 02/01/2013 16:47, "G. E. Dearth" <G.Dearth@web.de> wrote:

>

>> What model TV is it? I'll bet it's looking for a particular Windows-based

>> service, but there may be ways to use a Mac with it.

>>

>>

>> Panasonic TX-L37ETW5 (may be a specific German designation but there should be

>> a US equivalent). Would certainly appreciate finding a solution.

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Gary D.

>

> Shouldn't it just connect wirelessly to your router via dhcp using the

> wireless key - or wired if it has an ethernet port? Then it would be on the

> lan and accessible to the mac. Ignore me if this has been tried......late to

> the game.....



The OP connected it to the network, it just didn't see the Mac; it was, as I surmised, because it's lookg for something other than iTunes sharing.

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31175 is a reply to message #31173] Wed, 02 January 2013 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 2, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> Downside, the sharing stuff seems to be something Apple doesn't

> support, DNLA:

>

> < http://www.mikefletcher.co.uk/documents/Panasonic%20User%20G uide%20for%20DLNA.pdf

>>


This .pdf says the TV accesses the media via software from "Twonky".
There's Macintosh OS X Twonky software, so it would appear the
solution would be to install "Twonky for Mac" on the Mini and then try
accessing it from the TV.

<http://www.twonky.com/products/twonkymac/default.aspx>

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31176 is a reply to message #31174] Wed, 02 January 2013 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 02/01/2013 18:39, "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:

> The OP connected it to the network, it just didn't see the Mac; it was, as I

> surmised, because it's lookg for something other than iTunes sharing.


Doesn't it work the other way either? From the mac to the tv via connect
to server - it seems it does have a wired ethernet port so that may be worth
trying - mind - I'm old school and don't use wireless anyway........a stick
in the mud old mac git.....

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31304 is a reply to message #31064] Thu, 03 January 2013 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks guys - you're the greatest.
>

>

I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of
days. I will report back, hopefully with success.

More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to
string a cable. I've tried TV –> WLAN –> Router –> Ethernet –> Mini as well
as TV –> WLAN –> Router –> built-in Airport – Mini, all to no avail. I have
assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct?

The TV is a Panasonic model TX-L37ETW5 (could be a specific German
designation but there should be a US equivalent).

Thanks again.

Gary D.

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31305 is a reply to message #31304] Thu, 03 January 2013 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 03/01/2013 11:48, "Gary D." <G.Dearth@web.de> wrote:

> More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to string

> a cable. I've tried TV ­> WLAN ­> Router ­> Ethernet ­> Mini as well as TV ­>

> WLAN ­> Router ­> built-in Airport ­ Mini, all to no avail. I have assumed

> that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct?


I'm in the UK and we have ethernet adaptors which run the network from
the router via the 240v mains electric wiring exiting through a socket on a
mains plug adapter - no cable required for a wired connection.......do they
have these in the US?

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #31333 is a reply to message #31304] Thu, 03 January 2013 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:48 AM, Gary D. <G.Dearth@web.de> wrote:

> Thanks guys - you're the greatest.

>

> I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of days. I will report back, hopefully with success.

>

> More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to string a cable. I've tried TV –> WLAN –> Router –> Ethernet –> Mini as well as TV –> WLAN –> Router –> built-in Airport – Mini, all to no avail. I have assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct?


You need to connect to your wireless access point. I'm pretty sure the manual shows how to do that; unfortunately your intuition is right, it's a German model; the only manual I could find was in German. (Meanwhile here in the US we get manuals in English, French, Spanish, Chinese, German, and often Japanese, Portugese, Italian and Korean.

It's quite disappointing sometimes to take this thick tome marked "Instruction Manual" and you think :"Oh good, a decent manual for once!" and it's the same thing in fifteen languages 8-P

You have just a wireless router with some ethernet ports, correct? If you can get to the internet on the TV you're good insofar as network connections, I believe you said this at the beginning. After that it's just a matter of installing the software on the mini and things will work.

AFAIK, all Wifi routers (apple's included) have the ability to show connected devices; you should be able to check whether your TV shows up on the router. If so, then you're good, and the only issue is that the two devices don't yet communicate twith each other, which is a software issue, not a networking one.

Without that software, neither device is offering any services on the network that the other one knows about, so you cannot 'see' them.

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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #32096 is a reply to message #31304] Tue, 08 January 2013 06:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:48:14 PM UTC+1, Gary D. wrote:
>

> Thanks guys - you're the greatest.

>>

>>

> I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of

> days. I will report back, hopefully with success.

>

> More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to

> string a cable. I've tried TV –> WLAN –> Router –> Ethernet –> Mini as well

> as TV –> WLAN –> Router –> built-in Airport – Mini, all to no avail. I have

> assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct?

>

> The TV is a Panasonic model TX-L37ETW5 (could be a specific German

> designation but there should be a US equivalent).

>

> Thanks again.

>

> Gary D.

>


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Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini [message #32097 is a reply to message #31333] Tue, 08 January 2013 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:35:15 PM UTC+1, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
>

>

> On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:48 AM, Gary D. <G.De...@web.de <javascript:>> wrote:

>

>> Thanks guys - you're the greatest.

>>

>> I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of

> days. I will report back, hopefully with success.

>>

>

> ... and the only issue is that the two devices don't yet communicate twith

> each other, which is a software issue, not a networking one.

>

> Without that software, neither device is offering any services on the

> network that the other one knows about, so you cannot 'see' them.

>

> Bruce Johnson

>

>

I am happy to report that I have been successful. Bruce was right that it
is a software problem and Kris steered me to "Twonky Server" which was
exactly what I needed (says so in the manual but I was off on another
tangent. Sometimes it pays to read the manual carefully - if only they were
better written.)

Thanks again everyone.

Gary D.

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On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Gary D. <G.Dearth@web.de> wrote:
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> I am happy to report that I have been successful. Bruce was right that it is a software problem and Kris steered me to "Twonky Server" which was exactly what I needed (says so in the manual but I was off on another tangent. Sometimes it pays to read the manual carefully - if only they were better written.)

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Good news! Glad you got it working.

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