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[ ALL file into theater ]

CROW: We don't even get to say hello to anyone?
TOM: Man, austerity stinks.
JOEL: Don't get political this early in the year, Tommy.

>> MIME-Version: 1.0

JOEL: Sure, now it's mime, but when we got it it was ourms.

>> Path:!panix!!

TOM: Stanford! Topeka! Tahlequah! Watervliet!

>> l8no23395436qao.0!!e10ni165558057qan.0!nn!

CROW: Google. Because Google is watching you.

>> l8no23877973qao.0!!e18g2000yqo.googlegrou!

>> not-for-mail

TOM: How did we get it, then?

>> Newsgroups: alt.astronomy,

JOEL: I like indie astronomy better.


TOM: Space history.
CROW: ``Well, used to be we didn't walk on the Moon, then we did, then we didn't again, and that brings us to the present day.''


TOM: I like that grunge journalism.
CROW: I'm here for the news-media gangnam style.

>> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:42:04 -0700 (PDT)

>> Complaints-To:

CROW: Picture all Google coming to a stop because somebody complained about usenet there.

>> Injection-Info:

TOM: Shouldn't this part be for the pharmacy majors?

>; posting-host=; posting-account=nf79RwoAAABXjvy5ztMzmPxgY1WGoktI

JOEL: Discontinue use of GoktI if symptoms persist.

>> NNTP-Posting-Host:

CROW: Hike!

>> User-Agent: G2/1.0

TOM: That reduces to G2.0.

>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1,gzip(gfe)

JOEL: User Agent Mozilla 5.0.
TOM: Women want him. Men want to be him.

>> Message-ID: <>

TOM: Hey, that's a cracked Photoshop license key!

>> Subject: Venus for dummies (6.0) / Brad Guth (GuthVenus)

CROW: Finally, some relief from that *smart* Venus.

>> From: Brad Guth <>

TOM: He certainly *is*.

>> Injection-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 23:42:04 +0000

JOEL: He's in a pleasing time-release form.

>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

CROW: Windows 1252 is the version that went to the Model Parliament, right?

>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

TOM: Cut! Print it, Raoul!

>> Lines: 137

>> Xref: panix


> alt.astronomy:502748

TOM: So with 85 percent of the vote in we're projecting a win for alt.astronomy.

> alt.journalism:263200

JOEL: And in the school board elections has taken the lead.


> What sort of weird planet geology, or that of its active geodynamics,

> looks or acts anything like this?

CROW: A pudding planet geology!


> Thumbnail images of Venus,

[ JOEL holds up his thumb. ]
TOM: That's not Venus, that's a wart.

> including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)

CROW: 225 men per pixel?!

> bnails.html

> Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1

TOM: o/` We didn't start the fire ... o/`

> 095_1.html

JOEL: C115 S095 underscore 1.
CROW: You --- you sank my battleship!


> =93Guth Venus=94, at 1:1, then 10x resample/enlargement of the area in

> question:

TOM: You can see Oswald turn and shoot Mark David Chapman.

> 178146

CROW: That's not Venus, that's a picture of my cat!

> 691314

JOEL: Add some captions you can have your own LOLvenus.
TOM: I hate that you said that.


JOEL: [ Sheepish ] I'm sorry.

> Not even the most active moon of Jupiter being Io offers up anything

> like this

TOM: Io doesn't even try! You invite it to the potluck and it brings a bag of Doritos every-single-time.

> remarkable degree of surface geology complexity,

CROW: Fine dentition, good arch in the back. A good mudder.
TOM: How's its fadder?

> and there=92s

JOEL: Mostly oats and hay.

> certainly nothing remotely artificial looking with anything discovered

> about the planet Mars

TOM: Apart from the big 'MADE IN TAIWAN' across the Mariner Valley.

> or thus far of any other planet or moon to speak

> of,

JOEL: What about Unspeakable Moon?
CROW: We don't talk about it.

> outside of Venus that gets within 110 LD every 19 months

TOM: Except when taken internally by a physician.

> (any

> closer and we=92d have to reevaluate Venus as a NEO).

CROW: So if you spot Venus coming any closer to Earth than Venus
ever comes, that'd be suspicious.


> Of any humanoids or other intelligent species that's capable of

> surviving interstellar treks,

TOM: So, what, we're ignoring the total morons who make it across space?

> at least technically should have no

> problems with remaining stealthy

CROW: 'Sure, you'll have no trouble being stealthy on Earth, mister
space alien. Just pull your ball cap down over your forehead ...
yeah, all three heads.'

> or even capable of infiltrating and

> mingle within any community of existing life-forms upon any given

> planet they chose to study

CROW: I'm imagining a pack of Vulcans wearing costumes trying to hang around a pack of wallabies.

> or even to populate and commercialize by

> extracting valuable elements in order to suit their own needs.

TOM: I don't want to be a nitpicker but that sentence was 62 words long and forgot to have a predicate.


> Interplanetary travel capability and especially that of interstellar

> also represents

CROW: Interplanet Janet!

> more than sufficient technical expertise to deal with

> any hellish planet like Venus,

JOEL: It also represents being able to get through La Guardia.

> or even those of whatever cryogenic

> nature,

CROW: Such as your Liquid Nitrogen Beetles or your Frost Rhododendrons.

> because that=92s what advanced physics and good science is fully

> capable of doing in spite of the odds against us.

JOEL: They can live on Venus yet they still cannot tell a cabbage from a lettuce!


> If anything, the metallicity of Venus is somewhat greater than Earth,

TOM: But it's still not greater than the good old U.S. of A, am I right, folks?

> and its ability to create and maintain its substantial atmosphere of

> mostly CO2 as having such an abundance (12 ppm) of helium that=92s

CROW: That everyone talking about Venus has a silly voice.

> offering roughly 200+ times as much as Earth,

TOM: 210 times as much if you don't count Iowa.

> and having sustained its

> terrific atmosphere without benefit of any moon or

CROW: Or even Moon Helper! Make your moon into a meal!

> the geomagnetic

> protection like our planet has to work with,

JOEL: The invaluable help of Earth's jaunty Madagascar.

> is truly an impressive

> accomplishment,

TOM: Even bigger than that guy who ate 40 White Castle burgers at one sitting.

> and especially for a smaller than Earth like planet w/

> o moon and managed even though it=92s so much closer to the sun.

CROW: And even though it's in a region zoned ``light commercial/sulfuric acid''.


> Firstly, our mainstream eyecandy cache of science infomercials via our

> public funded NASA and otherwise NOVA as owned by Google,

JOEL: Google, run by Rankin-Bass, operated by Cougartown, a division of RCA.

> could just

> as easily help with exploiting this ongoing research if they wanted

> to,

TOM: But they're too busy making up Twitter accounts from Mars probes.

> and otherwise without their assistance you might try to understand

> that we really do not need to use microscopic or even much higher

> resolution

CROW: Wait, you're bringing a microscope out to look at Venus?
TOM: I'm picturing a flock of astronomers with those little toy microscopes pointing up at the sky and looking at their fingerprints.

> than 75 m/pixel imaging when the items of most interest

> have always been so extremely or unusually big to begin with.

JOEL: It sounds so obvious when you hear it. Just look at Big Venus instead!

> So, you

> can continue to argue that these images as a derivative from a 36

CROW: Or you can have the halfback sneak around the corner right after the snap and run over to the concession stands.

> confirming look or scanned composite offering this initial 225 meters

> per pixel format are simply not good enough,

JOEL: But they made an honest effort and we appreciate them for that.

> but you=92d only be proving

> to yourself and others as to how unintelligent and/or obstructive that

> sort of closed or naysay mindset really is stuck in denial more than

> reality.

TOM: This is that new shame-based astronomy you hear so much about.
CROW: It's all the rage among space geeks with low self-esteem.


> Venus is perhaps not unlike hell,

JOEL: What isn't?
CROW: Hades.

> but otherwise its unusually high

> metallicity as indicated by its radar reflective attributes and its

> considerable surplus of helium

TOM: And excessive supplies of silly bouncy balls.
CROW: Venus leads the inner solar system in paper cups with jokes written on the bottom!
JOEL: No other planet has so much Mork And Mindy themed bubble gum!

> plus the mostly geothermal driven

> environment, is at least technically manageable

CROW: For all those planets that need PERT charts.
TOM: They're hoping to be the first ISO 9001-certified space thingy.

> as long as you have a

> functioning brain of at least a 5th grader

CROW: Or a third and a second grader put together.
TOM: Or a seventh grader and a minus-second grader.
JOEL: Two tenth-graders and a minus fifteenth grader.

> without all the usual

> mainstream status-quo tumors that disable your investigative skills

> and deductive reasoning,

JOEL: Have all your astronomy questions answered by Mark Trail!

> that=92s otherwise considered as human

> intelligence.

CROW: We're looking for the thinking men's tumors here.


> Of course to most of you that have taken a basic look-see at this old

> Magellan radar obtained image of Venus,

TOM: You're a bunch of peepers!
JOEL: Want to be a peeper too.

> and especially of the fuzzy or

> blocky pixel image of =93Guth Venus=94 or =93GuthVenus=94,

CROW: Guth Venus '94!
TOM: He's running with Vermin Supreme.

> is perhaps

> suggestive of nothing more than offering a nasty looking terrain of

> random geology

CROW: Just throw that glacial moraine anywhere. I'm kind of living out of my asthenosphere.
JOEL: Vermin knows better.

> with piles of extruded hot rock that just so happen to

> look as though artificial or as having been intelligently morphed into

> what seems to offer rational patterns.

TOM: Well, sure. Look at that big 'EAT AT ZERBLATT'S' sign on the equator.

> However, within these highly

> confirmed patterns of such mostly hot rock are several odd geometric

> items

JOEL: Like the sulfuric acid parallelogram.
CROW: Finally my geometry teacher will respect me!

> of somewhat large scale and offering us those extremely

> interesting formations,

TOM: Marching in uniform and playing brass instruments!

> that at least on Earth or upon any other

> imaged planet or moon

CROW: Or accretion disc!
TOM: Or black hole!

> hasn=92t come remotely close to offering this

> level of sophisticated geology complexity

JOEL: They had little cozies for their martini glasses.

> and rational community

> looking configuration or modification of such a mountainous terrain

> site.

TOM: Perfect for filming Venus Car commercials!
JOEL: You'll love cruising in the new Buick Aphrodite 8.

> This makes GuthVenus into a one of a kind off-world location,

> at least up until other better resolution images become available.

TOM: But you can join and operate a GuthPlanet Franchise today!
CROW: Prime locations still available.
JOEL: GuthSaturn closing soon!


> Besides merely following my deductive interpretations,

CROW: Socrates is a mortal.
JOEL: Planets will not last forever.
TOM: No two-headed person has ever been Vice-President.
CROW: The owner of the dog does not have a job as a plumber.
JOEL: Therefore Socrates is a mermaid!
TOM: Logical, logical.

> do reconsider

> as to bothering yourself to take another subjective look-see

CROW: Call ahead! It'd be embarrassing if Venus were out when you get there.

> and then

> honestly interpret this thick and dense atmospheric insulated terrain

> for yourself,

TOM: But ask for help understanding the dirty jokes in the Malagasy Orogeny.

> as to what some of those highly unusual patterns could

> possibly represent, as anything other than the random geology

> happenstance of hot rocks.

CROW: I see a bunny.
JOEL: I see a painting by Thomas Eakins.


> =93Guth Venus=94 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in

> question:

TOM: Are we to suppose this is some ``magic late-bombardment protoplanet''?

> slideshow/5629579402364691314


JOEL: The picture is nice enough but I like seeing all those 3's up there.

> This is not to say that 99.9999% of this Venus surface doesn=92t look

> perfectly natural (at least it does to me),

CROW: And I've been looking at things for *years*!

> just like the surface of

> Earth might look if having to use the exact same SAR-C imaging methods

TOM: The same saucy imaging methods? Wow!

> and its limited resolution that could be easily improved upon by any

> new missions for mapping Venus in greater detail (such as 7.5 meters/

> pixel).

CROW: Oh, we'd just run out of pixels at that rate.

> After all, a millionth of that hot Venus surface area is

> still 4.6e8 m2, or 460 km2,

TOM: Or sixty barleycorns, two pottles, and half a Lords-Whacking-Stick!

> and this most complex area of =93Guth

> Venus=94 (100 x 100 pixels or 506 km2

CROW: 485 if you use coupon code GUTHVENUS!

> ) that which includes mostly

> natural geology, isn=92t involving but a fraction more than a millionth

> of the Venus surface area,

JOEL: It all adds up to three squintillionths of a Venusian barleycorn!

> and yet it seems as though highly developed

> and to a large enough scale that makes for deductively interpreting

> those patterns

JOEL: Socrates is a mortal.
TOM: Pants are rarely worn on the head.
CROW: A person with plenty of time need not run for the train.
TOM: Oranges are not sharp metal instruments.
JOEL: Therefore, Socrates is being chased by a tiger!

> as rather easy and reliably pixel truthworthy items

> that do in fact exist because the image resampling process isn=92t even

> capable of artificially creating them.

TOM: Iron-clad proof! These pictures are impossible to make!


> It can also be suggested and reasonably argued that initially (4+

> billion years ago)

JOEL: Actually it was 3.95 billion years ago. It just aged badly.

> our sun was 25% cooler than nowadays (possibly a

> third cooler),

CROW: Back when it wore those hipster glasses.
TOM: Hipster sunglasses.

> thereby making Venus quite Goldilocks approved even if

> she was naked and totally dumbfounded.

JOEL: Didn't Theodore Sturgeon write this story?

> But even this cool beginning

> still doesn=92t fully explain as to why such a large and complex

> geometric sale of a structured community

CROW: Featuring a golf course, a security booth, and a clubhouse!

> or mining operation was

> established,

TOM: Well, what's mine is mine.
JOEL: Or Daffy Duck's.

> and as to why Venus has been radiating such a large

> amount of its geothermal core energy

CROW: Maybe it's trying to keep power the Autobots?

> plus having been creating all of

> that unprotected atmosphere that should have been extensively solar

> wind blown away as of more than a billion years ago,

CROW: Except Venus's Mom made it wear a sensible woolen cap!

> whereas instead

> there=92s more than enough new atmosphere created to make up for the

> lack of having a protective geomagnetosphere.

JOEL: An over-protective geomagnetosphere. It makes Venus call home every like ten minutes.


> BTW; there=92s terrestrial objective proof that life even as we know

> it can adjust or acclimate to extreme pressures and even tolerate much

> higher temperatures,

TOM: What Guth means is, squirrels know how to work the thermostat.

> and yet lo and behold there's still no American

> flags on Venus,

CROW: But there's the flag of Burkina Faso on Neptune. Go figure.

> but there have been USSR/Russian flags on multiple

> landers that got there decades before us.

TOM: To be fair, the flag of Venus is all over Italy.
JOEL: Oh yeah.

> So, perhaps we=92ll have to

> accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia.

CROW: Giving Russia a huge lead in the uninhabitable wasteland race.

> Otherwise NOVA as having been owned by Google could help all of us

> better understand and appreciate what the extremely nearby planet

> Venus has to offer, but only if they wanted to.

JOEL: Google is figuring they can use Venus to store Usenet.

> Obviously our NASA

> has been avoiding this extremely nearby planet,

TOM: They're playing hard-to-get so Venus will be interested in NASA.

> perhaps because our

> expertise and talent for getting active probes to survive with that

> atmosphere is simply less than what Russians have accomplished.

CROW: Like crashing into Venus and melting.




TOM: GuthVenus was tried in the fourth district court, county of Los Angeles. In a moment, the results of that trial.
CROW: [ Chanting the Dragnet theme ] Dun-dah-dun-dun.

> Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/=94Guth Venus=94

TOM: GuthVenus was convicted of existing and sentenced to not more than twenty Venusian days of hard labor and between three and seven Latin pedants arguing about what its adjective should be.
CROW: [ Chanting the Dragnet theme ] Dun-dah-dun-dun-DAAAAAH.

JOEL: Well, nice seeing everyone again.
TOM: Yeah, let's blow this popsicle stand.

[ ALL file out. ]

Mystery Science Theater 3000 is the creation and the property of Best Brains. Brad Guth and Guth Venus are the creation and property of Brad Guth, and I certainly don't mean to take over any of that. This fan fiction was created by Joseph Nebus, and should not be taken internally except as ordered by a Venusian. My little Still-Store web site will be back up and running soon with all sorts of new behind-the-scenes coding that petty Venusian minds could not begin to comprehend.

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/ | \

Keep riffing the posts.

> honestly interpret this thick and dense atmospheric insulated terrain

> for yourself, as to what some of those highly unusual patterns could

> possibly represent, as anything other than the random geology

> happenstance of hot rocks.

-- Joseph Nebus
Current Entry: Reading The Comics, December 28, 2012
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Re: MiSTed: Venus for Dummies [ 1 / 1 ] [message #32116 is a reply to message #30971] Tue, 08 January 2013 09:30 Go to previous message
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In article <kbre8a$bqq$>, (Joseph Nebus) wrote:

(Snip funny MiSTing)

I just finished reading this and it's very funny. All Joe's MiSTings
are funny, for that matter. I especially like that a genuine applied
mathematician (that would be Joe - approx. the same field my husband was
in, too) would MiST articles about science and math. The technical made
funny for us the viewers!


Stop waving that crow in my face. He's our landlord!
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