Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002 [message #308841] |
Sun, 17 January 2016 22:36 |
Brad Wait
Messages: 1 Registered: January 2016
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Hi
I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powe rmac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html).
I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX. I thought
this would be simple to set up, but apparently not.
Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the seller's
privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire to my OSX
laptop, and using the latest disk utility. This wiped any OS9 drivers from
the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install the OS9
drivers on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9 drivers'
checkbox.
Two questions:
1. IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9
drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive? Or, will it not be
able to see the drive at all when it boots up?
2. I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD. I found several ISOs online
that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be
bootable on the G4. I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are the
ones I have tried:
-
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-200 2-restore-discs
- http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0
Anyone have suggestions?
Thanks
-Brad
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Re: Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002 [message #308868 is a reply to message #308841] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 05:14 |
Frank Dutra
Messages: 12 Registered: September 2012
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If memory serves, and it often doesn't, the install disks are machine
specific. Might want to try a generic OSX disk that supports classic,
ie Panther, Tiger, and use the OS9 folder and drivers included.
On 1/17/16, Brad Wait <wbwait@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one:
> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powe rmac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html).
>
>
>
> I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX. I thought
> this would be simple to set up, but apparently not.
>
> Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the seller's
>
> privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire to my OSX
> laptop, and using the latest disk utility. This wiped any OS9 drivers from
>
> the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install the OS9
> drivers on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9 drivers'
> checkbox.
>
> Two questions:
>
>
> 1. IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9
> drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive? Or, will it not be
>
> able to see the drive at all when it boots up?
> 2. I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD. I found several ISOs online
> that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be
>
> bootable on the G4. I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are
> the
> ones I have tried:
>
>
> -
>
> http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-200 2-restore-discs
>
> - http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0
>
> Anyone have suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> -Brad
>
>
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Re: Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002 [message #308870 is a reply to message #308841] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 04:22 |
Tim Martin
Messages: 7 Registered: February 2015
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This is do-able - I've got a QS & a QS 2002 - 800 (upgraded to dual 1.8)
that I rebuilt and upgraded with no original software disks ... it's just I
cannot recall now quite how I did it - and I did have bootable external
HD's and removeable drives (2G Jaz) backups
1) read up and check on the partition scheme appropriate for booting OS 9
2) If you have access to second classic booting machine put the QS into
target disk mode and connect by firewire - do the installs from the second
machine ?
keep us posted - it's a great machine - my hickey has been failing power
supplies ... with maxed out machines - replacements can prove prohibitive.
Tim Martin
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On 18 January 2016 at 03:36, Brad Wait <wbwait@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one:
> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powe rmac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html).
>
>
> I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX. I thought
> this would be simple to set up, but apparently not.
>
> Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the
> seller's privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire
> to my OSX laptop, and using the latest disk utility. This wiped any OS9
> drivers from the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install
> the OS9 drivers on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9
> drivers' checkbox.
>
> Two questions:
>
>
> 1. IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9
> drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive? Or, will it not be
> able to see the drive at all when it boots up?
> 2. I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD. I found several ISOs online
> that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be
> bootable on the G4. I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are the
> ones I have tried:
>
>
> -
> http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-200 2-restore-discs
>
> - http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0
>
> Anyone have suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> -Brad
>
>
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Re: Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002 [message #308893 is a reply to message #308841] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 10:55 |
Bruce Johnson
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> On Jan 17, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Brad Wait <wbwait@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powe rmac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html).
>
> I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX. I thought this would be simple to set up, but apparently not.
>
> Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the seller's privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire to my OSX laptop, and using the latest disk utility. This wiped any OS9 drivers from the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install the OS9 drivers on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9 drivers' checkbox.
>
> Two questions:
>
> • IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9 drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive? Or, will it not be able to see the drive at all when it boots up?
OS X and OS 9 used the same disk format, so there is no issue there. The installer CD will set the proper boot sector stuff to boot into OS 9 as part if the installation.
> • I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD. I found several ISOs online that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be bootable on the G4. I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are the ones I have tried:
> • http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-200 2-restore-discs
> • http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0
> Anyone have suggestions?
I think you may need to use the Restore disks, not the 9.2 disk. The QS2002 requires 9.2.2, as it was the last Mac to boot into OS 9.
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