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atari serial interface info wanted [message #283112] Mon, 10 March 1986 14:41 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: hong@garfield.UUCP
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Posted: Mon Mar 10 14:41:50 1986
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Keywords: 850 serial interface

I want to add an interface for a Hayes compt modem.
And I was told by someone there are a lot of serial interface availiable
, but I have no idea which will suit my requirement.
There are Atari 850, P:R CONNECTION (100 % 850 compt?), U-CALL and
R-VERTER.
Have you used any of the above?
Which one is better?
Thanks in advance.
Re: atari serial interface info wanted [message #283135 is a reply to message #283112] Fri, 14 March 1986 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Posted: Fri Mar 14 10:22:49 1986
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The 850 interface from Atari has 4 serial (cereal?) ports and one
Centronics-type parallel port.  One of the serial ports can be made into a
20-mA current loop to run old fashioned Teletypes if you wish.  I bought an
850 a couple of months ago from CSC, Inc., Hightstown NJ.  Their phone is
(609) 448-8889.  Their price for the 850 was the standard $109.00.
The Centronics port plugged in and ran a borrowed Epson printer with no
problems.  I bought an assembled cable, incidentally, from CSC for $25.00.
You can make one but you will spend at least $15 in parts unless you have
a source of connectors at very low cost.

INTERESTING NOTE for Atari fans... the 850 I bought came in the "new" color
of the 130XE/520ST.  This makes me suspect that a new production run has
started and that rumors of unavailability of this product are "greatly
exaggerated" to paraphrase Mark Twain.  I would emphatically NOT recommend
that anybody get suckered in to paying $149.00 for this interface as I have
seen some suppliers cheerfully suggest.

The P: R: connection looks like a reasonable alternative.  It has I believe
only two serial ports but that's probably more than most people will ever use.
It DOES NOT require a power transformer like the Atari one as it steals power
out of the Atari serial bus pins.  Presumably this will not greatly increase
the load on the Atari's transformer, but then again it sure won't decrease it!
This one sells for around $60.

I have not used the others you mentioned but I am sure they would work fine
assuming the cable from them to your modem was wired suitably.  However, with
the above two interfaces you get a parallel printer port as well as the serial
ports.

One other product should be mentioned: I think it is Astra Systems that makes
a very nice disk drive which also throws in I believe one serial and one
parallel port.  (Somebody else may have more details).  If you want another
disk drive also, this is a very reasonable thing to consider.  But it is not a
cheap way to get just the serial port!

NOTE that RS-232-C ports, while they have 25 pins, use only about 6 of them
in practice.  It is not too bad a job to wire up a cable, and this might be
a good place to save some money.  Also, the ribbon cable approach is even
easier despite the fact that it wires up all 25!

Hope the above is of help.
Re: atari serial interface info wanted [message #283145 is a reply to message #283112] Mon, 17 March 1986 20:36 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: JEB6589@RITVAXB.BITNET
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Posted: Mon Mar 17 20:36:49 1986
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     I have the R-Verter interface, you mentioned.  It is a very simple
interface and does not support true RS-232 levels.  Most manufactures consider
0 volts a logic 1 and +5 a logic 0 so they can get away with this.  The RS-232
standard states that a logic 1 is -5 to -15 volts and a logic 0 is +5 to +15
volts.  So consequently the R-verter is not compatible with every modem along
with the fact it does NOT support DTR.  Also the 850 and P:R: connection allow
the daisy chaining of peripherals, while the R-verter doesn't.  The U-call
interface from digital devices I am not sure about.  I am a member of DELPHI
and there has been alot of discussion of the compatability of the P:R: Connectio
n
and the 850, it is 100% CIO compatible, not SIO though, as this would cause
copyright infringement, or so the discussion goes.

                                        Jim Berg
                                        Jeb6589@ritvaxc.BITNET
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