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MDD G4 Start-up Issue [message #264618] Sun, 17 August 2014 12:27 Go to next message
Michael McMurtrey is currently offline  Michael McMurtrey
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Lately, my MCC G4 refuses to start by means of the start button on the
front of the computer. I have to open the case and reset the PMU in
order to re-start. I suspected the PRAM battery might be bad, but it's
a new one that is outputting 3.67 volts. What's up?

Michael McMurtrey
Carrollton, TX







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Re: MDD G4 Start-up Issue [message #264619 is a reply to message #264618] Sun, 17 August 2014 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Michael McMurtrey wrote:

> Lately, my MCC G4 refuses to start by means of the start button on the front of the computer. I have to open the case and reset the PMU in order to re-start. I suspected the PRAM battery might be bad, but it's a new one that is outputting 3.67 volts. What's up?
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The MDD's will run without a battery in them, My MDD's will occasionally not start so if I unplug the power cord in the back and plug back in they start with the button. It may be a PS issue but mine have been doing this for years.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA

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Re: MDD G4 Start-up Issue [message #264644 is a reply to message #264619] Sun, 17 August 2014 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd take a close look to see if the internal connections for the switch are clean and intact.


On Sunday, August 17, 2014 10:01 AM, 'John Carmonne' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:




On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Michael McMurtrey wrote:

> Lately, my MCC G4 refuses to start by means of the start button on the front of the computer. I have to open the case and reset the PMU in order to re-start. I suspected the PRAM battery might be bad, but it's a new one that is outputting 3.67 volts. What's up?
>

The MDD's will run without a battery in them, My MDD's will occasionally not start so if I unplug the power cord  in the back and plug back in they start with the button. It may be a PS issue but mine have been doing this for years.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA


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Re: MDD G4 Start-up Issue [message #264669 is a reply to message #264644] Sun, 17 August 2014 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James E. Therrault is currently offline  James E. Therrault
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Spraying the switch with electronic cleaner or WD-40 can't hurt...

JT




On Aug 17, 2014, at 5:15 PM, 'Brian Fuelleman' via G-Group wrote:

> I'd take a close look to see if the internal connections for the switch are clean and intact.
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> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 10:01 AM, 'John Carmonne' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Michael McMurtrey wrote:
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>> Lately, my MCC G4 refuses to start by means of the start button on the front of the computer. I have to open the case and reset the PMU in order to re-start. I suspected the PRAM battery might be bad, but it's a new one that is outputting 3.67 volts. What's up?
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Missing file and failure to launch [message #264690 is a reply to message #264644] Mon, 18 August 2014 07:11 Go to previous message
Frank Dutra is currently offline  Frank Dutra
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This is an odd one, at least for me. I'm using two 2 tb sata drives
behind a seritek internal card on my ancient G4 Mystic, and backing
up (clone) via Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) manually every two weeks or
so. My everyday drive, WD2, is one of 2 partitions, my backup drive
uses none, with 10.4.11 PPC on both. I've let WD2 get a bit to full
on occasion lately (less than 20 gb free space at times).

Safari crashes (not that unusual these days) and won't relaunch. I
try all the usual trashing of preferences, caches, plugins, etc,
reboot and run applejack to no avail. Then itunes won't launch. Boot
up the backup drive and all is well there. Run disk warrior on WD2
with no major problems found. Try replacing the offending apps from
the backup and reboot into WD2 to no avail. Run Disk Utility to
recheck permissions, check The Google for solutions,,,, no luck. In
desperation and running out of time, I decide to clone over my most
important files with CCC, leaving the Application folder and system
files unchecked,,, CCC won't boot. Other apps, including apples
preview, text edit, are still launching and working fine.

I reboot the backup and run CCC, attempting to clone over emails and
recent work/files using WD2 as source (not recommended,,, what a
mess!). CCC warns me and doesn't clone over system files and apps.
When done, CCC displays an error message saying there were problems
with the attributes of a /.vol file. I check the WD2 drive with the
venerable FindPro and Word 5.1 (able to find and sometimes open
invisible files and folders), and lo and behold, no .vol file at
root level or anywhere else for that matter. When checking the backup
drive I found an alias for a .vol file at root. If I knew how to use
the terminal or the exact nature of this .vol file/alias, I'd be
willing to try and copy it over from my backup, but I have reached
the upper layers of my incompetence and need the help of the
experts,,,, Please ?

Thanks,,, be back this evening.
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