| Paying for hobbies [message #263047] |
Thu, 31 July 2014 16:14  |
Brian
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From Newsgroup: rec.arts.anime.misc
On the editorial by grarkada that I mentioned a while ago, he mentioned
that some people, especially anime fans feel entitled and that they feel
that they should not have to pay for their hobby.
While I agree that there are some people that do feel this way, I also
think that one has to decide how much one is going to pay for that hobby.
For example, a person might only watch the anime on SYFY (if they still
have their "monday night anime block"), CN or wherever it appears. Even
then, they are paying for their cable TV subscription.
I think that watching it on regulary on TV is a hobby because one is
taking some of their free time to do this activity, even though it is
hobby that one is perhaps not quite as committed to such as collecting
anime, or sewing, or woodworking, or whatever.
One do a little more and watch it on their computer from free sites such
as crunchyroll, etc., but even if they do this, and are very careful to
only go to only legal streaming sites such as Hulu or whatever (though I
am still not sure how to be absolutely certain) they are still paying for
the high speed internet, the computer, etc.
I am not sure what the minimum technical requirements for a computer to
watch online anime is, though I am pretty certain it is not terribly
high, but it is still not free.
When I started watching online anime, I watched on a standard 1monitor
that is about a foot or so square, I think
Then I graduated to an HD monitor that is 24 inches on the diagonal, and
recently I went to an HD tv that is 30 or so inches on the diagonal,
which is about the biggest size that can fit on a desk.
Another person might hook a computer, or a Roku device to a 51 inch tv.
Another person might decide that instead of just going to free sites, he
might get a subscription service like Funimation elite service, netflix,
or whatever (or perhaps even all of them if he can afford it).
Another might go even further and actually collect DVDs of anime shows,
perhaps even doing this rather than watching it online (as an aside, the
only show I would even consider buying the DVDs of is the show M*A*S*H).
Well, my point is that even whether one feels "entitled" or not, he is
probably is spending some money on watching anime and has to decide how
much money he will spend.
Some might argue that my whole argument is from the the point of view of
how much the viewer is paying, and not how much of the money is going to
the original producer of the anime.
Well, yes, my whole point is that it is not a "free" hobby even if one
feels entitled only goes to legal and illegal sites that do not charge a
subscription fee.
Even though darkstar7676 (or whoever) might argue that going to sites
like crunchyroll or Hulu is in some way "stealing anime," I think that is
pretty much ridiculous.
Those sites make their money through advertising or subscriptions to
their premium service, and in turn pay the North American licensor
(Funimation or whoever), who in turn pays the original producer (TOEI or
whoever), a perfectly legal, or at least I think, a perfectly to pay for
it.
Brian Christiansen
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| Re: Paying for hobbies [message #263112 is a reply to message #263047] |
Thu, 31 July 2014 22:35  |
Starcade
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Registered: January 2012
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From Newsgroup: rec.arts.anime.misc
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:14:18 PM UTC-7, Brian wrote:
> On the editorial by grarkada that I mentioned a while ago, he mentioned
> that some people, especially anime fans feel entitled and that they feel
> that they should not have to pay for their hobby.
It's the only way you have any real American fandom, and has been that way for a decade now.
> While I agree that there are some people that do feel this way, I also
> think that one has to decide how much one is going to pay for that hobby.
The problem is that, with most hobbies, and certainly anime being one of them, there's a price of admission -- below which you cannot take part.
Most anime fans (> 90%) don't even want to pay THAT, and won't unless forced.
> For example, a person might only watch the anime on SYFY (if they still
> have their "monday night anime block"), CN or wherever it appears. Even
> then, they are paying for their cable TV subscription.
You sure about that, in this day and age?
> One do a little more and watch it on their computer from free sites such
> as crunchyroll, etc., but even if they do this, and are very careful to
> only go to only legal streaming sites such as Hulu or whatever (though I
> am still not sure how to be absolutely certain) they are still paying for
> the high speed internet, the computer, etc.
Which means they aren't really taking part in the hobby as it's been the last 10 years or more...
> Another person might decide that instead of just going to free sites, he
> might get a subscription service like Funimation elite service, netflix,
> or whatever (or perhaps even all of them if he can afford it).
And then there's the question of whether the rights they have aren't just a goddamned piece of paper.
> Some might argue that my whole argument is from the the point of view of
> how much the viewer is paying, and not how much of the money is going to
> the original producer of the anime.
Without the latter being a consideration, the former becomes a moot point.
Just ask most American anime fans.
> Even though darkstar7676 (or whoever) might argue that going to sites
> like crunchyroll or Hulu is in some way "stealing anime," I think that is
> pretty much ridiculous.
CrunchyShit should've been prosecuted before they went legit.
> Those sites make their money through advertising or subscriptions to
> their premium service, and in turn pay the North American licensor
> (Funimation or whoever), who in turn pays the original producer (TOEI or
> whoever), a perfectly legal, or at least I think, a perfectly to pay for
> it.
Provided they really have the right to make such a transaction in the realities of anime distribution.
Mike
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