| ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246432] |
Fri, 07 March 2014 01:19  |
oz390gta
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Does anyone have ADTPro working with the Apple IIe Compatibility Card? I know my cabling, mini DIN-8, USB adapters etc are all working as I have had ADTPro working on my Iic and IIgs. I can not for the life of me get it working on the IIe card. All I get is a "Waiting for Host" message on the IIe card and the ADTPro software on the new Mac telling me it is connected.
If someone has got it going what settings do you have for the serial card in the IIe control panel on the mac?
Craig
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246434 is a reply to message #246432] |
Fri, 07 March 2014 02:35  |
Michael J. Mahon
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oz390gta <oz390gta@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have ADTPro working with the Apple IIe Compatibility Card? I
> know my cabling, mini DIN-8, USB adapters etc are all working as I have
> had ADTPro working on my Iic and IIgs. I can not for the life of me get
> it working on the IIe card. All I get is a "Waiting for Host" message on
> the IIe card and the ADTPro software on the new Mac telling me it is connected.
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> If someone has got it going what settings do you have for the serial card
> in the IIe control panel on the mac?
>
> Craig
I'm guessing that ADTPro is expecting a 6551, not a Mac serial
environment...
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246457 is a reply to message #246432] |
Fri, 07 March 2014 07:52 |
David Schmidt
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On 3/7/2014 1:19 AM, oz390gta wrote:
> Does anyone have ADTPro working with the Apple IIe Compatibility Card? I know my cabling, mini DIN-8, USB adapters etc are all working as I have had ADTPro working on my Iic and IIgs. I can not for the life of me get it working on the IIe card. All I get is a "Waiting for Host" message on the IIe card and the ADTPro software on the new Mac telling me it is connected.
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> If someone has got it going what settings do you have for the serial card in the IIe control panel on the mac?
Have you R'd TFM?
http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/lc.html
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246540 is a reply to message #246457] |
Fri, 07 March 2014 14:57 |
oz390gta
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I have RTFM ;-) but maybe I have made a few incorrect assumptions.
1) I am not sure if the cable I am using is a serial or printer cable. If it works with ADTPro on my IIgs I was assuming it is the correct cable.
2) I have AppleTalk turned on but using the printer port so I assumed no conflict, I noticed in your screenshot you have nothing in the virtual Printer Port slot.
Are my assumptions correct?
Craig
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246566 is a reply to message #246540] |
Fri, 07 March 2014 16:02 |
David Schmidt
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On 3/7/2014 2:57 PM, oz390gta wrote:
> I have RTFM ;-) but maybe I have made a few incorrect assumptions.
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> 1) I am not sure if the cable I am using is a serial or printer cable. If it works with ADTPro on my IIgs I was assuming it is the correct cable.
It is very likely a null modem/printer cable then.
> 2) I have AppleTalk turned on but using the printer port so I assumed no conflict, I noticed in your screenshot you have nothing in the virtual Printer Port slot.
You most definitely don't want Appletalk to be turned on. It evens
says, "Next, ensure that AppleTalk is inactive." Really, truly - you
can't have Appletalk running.
> Are my assumptions correct?
Score: 50%. :-)
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246603 is a reply to message #246566] |
Fri, 07 March 2014 19:56 |
oz390gta
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> You most definitely don't want Appletalk to be turned on. It evens
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> says, "Next, ensure that AppleTalk is inactive." Really, truly - you
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> can't have Appletalk running.
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>> Are my assumptions correct?
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> Score: 50%. :-)
OK, I over-thought this one. I thought the AppleTalk off warning was just to stop people who didn't know any better from having it on and having it talking to the same port as ADTPRo is trying to.
Craig
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246705 is a reply to message #246603] |
Sat, 08 March 2014 20:55 |
Michael J. Mahon
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oz390gta <oz390gta@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You most definitely don't want Appletalk to be turned on. It evens
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>> says, "Next, ensure that AppleTalk is inactive." Really, truly - you
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>> can't have Appletalk running.
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>>> Are my assumptions correct?
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>> Score: 50%. :-)
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> OK, I over-thought this one. I thought the AppleTalk off warning was just
> to stop people who didn't know any better from having it on and having it
> talking to the same port as ADTPRo is trying to.
>
> Craig
AppleTalk is the Great Disruptor of anything that depends on tight
timing...
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246800 is a reply to message #246566] |
Sun, 09 March 2014 21:28 |
oz390gta
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On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:02:59 AM UTC+11, schmidtd wrote:
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> You most definitely don't want Appletalk to be turned on. It evens
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> says, "Next, ensure that AppleTalk is inactive." Really, truly - you
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> can't have Appletalk running.
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I am following the RTFM put I can not change the port speed with ADTPro on the Apple II. It is fixed at 115200 and the arrows don't change the speed. The disk isn't locked.
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246801 is a reply to message #246800] |
Sun, 09 March 2014 22:20 |
David Schmidt
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On 3/9/2014 9:28 PM, oz390gta wrote:
> On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:02:59 AM UTC+11, schmidtd wrote:
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>> You most definitely don't want Appletalk to be turned on. It evens
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>> says, "Next, ensure that AppleTalk is inactive." Really, truly - you
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>> can't have Appletalk running.
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> I am following the RTFM put I can not change the port speed with ADTPro on the Apple II. It is fixed at 115200 and the arrows don't change the speed. The disk isn't locked.
Great Scot, you're right. I've tried to save you from yourself a little
too hard. You can't change the baud rate to 19200... and you need to.
Please go and download the 1.2.7 zip, the last version that let you do
that, and pull the ADTPro-1.2.7.dsk disk image from it:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/adtpro/files/adtpro/ADTPro- 1.2.7/ADTPro-1.2.7.zip/download
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #246879 is a reply to message #246803] |
Mon, 10 March 2014 13:58 |
David Schmidt
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On 3/9/2014 11:05 PM, oz390gta wrote:
> On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:20:59 PM UTC+11, schmidtd wrote:
>> On 3/9/2014 9:28 PM, oz390gta wrote:
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>> Great Scot, you're right. I've tried to save you from yourself a little
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>> too hard. You can't change the baud rate to 19200... and you need to.
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>> Please go and download the 1.2.7 zip, the last version that let you do
>>
>> that, and pull the ADTPro-1.2.7.dsk disk image from it:
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>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/adtpro/files/adtpro/ADTPro- 1.2.7/ADTPro-1.2.7.zip/download
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> This worked a treat, albeit at 19600 rather than 115200 :-(
Yep, that's the fastest you're going to get out of the LC card.
> Thanks for your help.
You're welcome, and thanks for sticking through it. I've updated the
code to re-enable the 19200 speed; that will be in the next update.
http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/history.html
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #324096 is a reply to message #246879] |
Fri, 29 July 2016 21:11 |
Kevin Dady
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On Monday, March 10, 2014 at 12:58:50 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
> On 3/9/2014 11:05 PM, oz390gta wrote:
>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:20:59 PM UTC+11, schmidtd wrote:
>>> On 3/9/2014 9:28 PM, oz390gta wrote:
>>
>>> Great Scot, you're right. I've tried to save you from yourself a little
>>>
>>> too hard. You can't change the baud rate to 19200... and you need to.
>>>
>>> Please go and download the 1.2.7 zip, the last version that let you do
>>>
>>> that, and pull the ADTPro-1.2.7.dsk disk image from it:
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/adtpro/files/adtpro/ADTPro- 1.2.7/ADTPro-1.2.7.zip/download
>>
>> This worked a treat, albeit at 19600 rather than 115200 :-(
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> Yep, that's the fastest you're going to get out of the LC card.
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>> Thanks for your help.
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> You're welcome, and thanks for sticking through it. I've updated the
> code to re-enable the 19200 speed; that will be in the next update.
>
> http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/history.html
necro thread I have a lc2 with the apple II card and I can talk to the II card via serial terminal at 19200, but adtpro receives a request and just sits there never outputing anything to the serial port both in bootstrap and adt functions
help please
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #324105 is a reply to message #324096] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 00:31 |
David Schmidt
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On 7/29/2016 9:11 PM, Kevin Dady wrote:
> On Monday, March 10, 2014 at 12:58:50 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>> On 3/9/2014 11:05 PM, oz390gta wrote:
>>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:20:59 PM UTC+11, schmidtd wrote:
>>>> On 3/9/2014 9:28 PM, oz390gta wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great Scot, you're right. I've tried to save you from yourself a little
>>>>
>>>> too hard. You can't change the baud rate to 19200... and you need to.
>>>>
>>>> Please go and download the 1.2.7 zip, the last version that let you do
>>>>
>>>> that, and pull the ADTPro-1.2.7.dsk disk image from it:
>>>>
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/adtpro/files/adtpro/ADTPro- 1.2.7/ADTPro-1.2.7.zip/download
>>>
>>> This worked a treat, albeit at 19600 rather than 115200 :-(
>>
>> Yep, that's the fastest you're going to get out of the LC card.
>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> You're welcome, and thanks for sticking through it. I've updated the
>> code to re-enable the 19200 speed; that will be in the next update.
>>
>> http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/history.html
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> necro thread I have a lc2 with the apple II card and I can talk to the II card via serial terminal at 19200, but adtpro receives a request and just sits there never outputing anything to the serial port both in bootstrap and adt functions
>
> help please
What versions, and and at what baud rates with those versions, have you
tried so far?
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #324148 is a reply to message #324105] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 08:45 |
Kevin Dady
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On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 11:31:30 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
> On 7/29/2016 9:11 PM, Kevin Dady wrote:
>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 at 12:58:50 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>>> On 3/9/2014 11:05 PM, oz390gta wrote:
>>>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:20:59 PM UTC+11, schmidtd wrote:
>>>> > On 3/9/2014 9:28 PM, oz390gta wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Great Scot, you're right. I've tried to save you from yourself a little
>>>> >
>>>> > too hard. You can't change the baud rate to 19200... and you need to.
>>>> >
>>>> > Please go and download the 1.2.7 zip, the last version that let you do
>>>> >
>>>> > that, and pull the ADTPro-1.2.7.dsk disk image from it:
>>>> >
>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/adtpro/files/adtpro/ADTPro- 1.2.7/ADTPro-1.2.7.zip/download
>>>>
>>>> This worked a treat, albeit at 19600 rather than 115200 :-(
>>>
>>> Yep, that's the fastest you're going to get out of the LC card.
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> You're welcome, and thanks for sticking through it. I've updated the
>>> code to re-enable the 19200 speed; that will be in the next update.
>>>
>>> http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/history.html
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>> necro thread I have a lc2 with the apple II card and I can talk to the II card via serial terminal at 19200, but adtpro receives a request and just sits there never outputing anything to the serial port both in bootstrap and adt functions
>>
>> help please
>
> What versions, and and at what baud rates with those versions, have you
> tried so far?
2.0.1 at 19200, worked fine at 115200 on my apple IIc, and 1.3.0 at 19200
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #324171 is a reply to message #324148] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 11:09 |
David Schmidt
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On 7/30/2016 8:45 AM, Kevin Dady wrote:
> On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 11:31:30 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>> What versions, and and at what baud rates with those versions, have you
>> tried so far?
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> 2.0.1 at 19200, worked fine at 115200 on my apple IIc, and 1.3.0 at 19200
What cabling (be as specific as you can) do you have in the setup that
works vs. the one that doesn't?
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #324217 is a reply to message #324171] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 16:37 |
Kevin Dady
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On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 10:09:55 AM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
> On 7/30/2016 8:45 AM, Kevin Dady wrote:
>> On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 11:31:30 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>>> What versions, and and at what baud rates with those versions, have you
>>> tried so far?
>>
>> 2.0.1 at 19200, worked fine at 115200 on my apple IIc, and 1.3.0 at 19200
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> What cabling (be as specific as you can) do you have in the setup that
> works vs. the one that does
both are RX,TX,and ground only one is a 9 to 9 pin with a mac adapter on it, which I use to transfer macintosh disk images, the //c uses a Midi cable with its end cut off
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| Re: ADTPro and Apple IIe card? [message #324236 is a reply to message #324217] |
Sat, 30 July 2016 23:19 |
David Schmidt
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On 7/30/2016 4:37 PM, Kevin Dady wrote:
> On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 10:09:55 AM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>> On 7/30/2016 8:45 AM, Kevin Dady wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 11:31:30 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
>>>> What versions, and and at what baud rates with those versions, have you
>>>> tried so far?
>>>
>>> 2.0.1 at 19200, worked fine at 115200 on my apple IIc, and 1.3.0 at 19200
>>
>> What cabling (be as specific as you can) do you have in the setup that
>> works vs. the one that does
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> both are RX,TX,and ground only one is a 9 to 9 pin with a mac adapter on it, which I use to transfer macintosh disk images, the //c uses a Midi cable with its end cut off
That won't do. You'll want to follow the cable recipe here:
http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/connectionsserial.html#MiniDIN 8
Also take a look here:
http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/lc.html
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