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The Art of TAP files... [message #210349] Sat, 19 October 2013 02:39 Go to next message
Bo Zimmerman is currently offline  Bo Zimmerman
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Anyone here with experience reading cassettes into TAP files that can talk about their successes?

TAP images are driving me nuts. I've tried the WAV route, but that went nowhere quickly, so I've moved onto using MTAP and a C64S cable on a real datasette. That's definitely closer, but the TAP files are still full of VICE "load error?" messages, missing programs, and all kinds of unhappiness when I scan them with FinalTap.

The tapes I'm working with are original Commodore PET programs of various sorts. Stuff I haven't seen archived elsewhere. And yes, they work find on the original machines.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

- Bo
Re: The Art of TAP files... [message #210350 is a reply to message #210349] Sat, 19 October 2013 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bo Zimmerman wrote:
> Anyone here with experience reading cassettes into TAP files that can talk about their successes?
>
> TAP images are driving me nuts. I've tried the WAV route, but that went nowhere quickly, so I've moved onto using MTAP and a C64S cable on a real datasette. That's definitely closer, but the TAP files are still full of VICE "load error?" messages, missing programs, and all kinds of unhappiness when I scan them with FinalTap.
>
> The tapes I'm working with are original Commodore PET programs of various sorts. Stuff I haven't seen archived elsewhere. And yes, they work find on the original machines.
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> - Bo
>

This is of no help to you, but a few years ago I went through this and
could not get any reliable TAP images and gave up in frustration.

I've archived plenty of tape based stuff from non-Commodore systems and
from some really bad tapes that required a bit of work in audacity but
Commodore tapes were a real PITA.

As to why, I'm not sure.
Re: The Art of TAP files... [message #210357 is a reply to message #210349] Mon, 21 October 2013 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bo Zimmerman <edwinfzimmerman3@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone here with experience reading cassettes into TAP files that can
> talk about their successes?
>
> TAP images are driving me nuts. I've tried the WAV route, but that went
> nowhere quickly, so I've moved onto using MTAP and a C64S cable on a real
> datasette. That's definitely closer, but the TAP files are still full of
> VICE "load error?" messages, missing programs, and all kinds of
> unhappiness when I scan them with FinalTap.
>
> The tapes I'm working with are original Commodore PET programs of various
> sorts. Stuff I haven't seen archived elsewhere. And yes, they work find
> on the original machines.
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.

I TAPped a good number of original tapes into usable images using 1530 and
1541-Ultimate with tape adapter. Generally those tapes that LOAD properly,
work after imaging them.

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SD!
Re: The Art of TAP files... [message #210362 is a reply to message #210349] Tue, 22 October 2013 16:28 Go to previous message
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Il 19/10/2013 08:39, Bo Zimmerman ha scritto:
> Anyone here with experience reading cassettes into TAP files that can
> talk about their successes?
>
> TAP images are driving me nuts. I've tried the WAV route, but that
> went nowhere quickly, so I've moved onto using MTAP and a C64S cable
> on a real datasette. That's definitely closer, but the TAP files are
> still full of VICE "load error?" messages, missing programs, and all
> kinds of unhappiness when I scan them with FinalTap.
>
> The tapes I'm working with are original Commodore PET programs of
> various sorts. Stuff I haven't seen archived elsewhere. And yes, they
> work find on the original machines.
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> - Bo
>
The FinalTap reports should at least say where the TAP files are broken,
so that some editing can be attempted using a hex editor.

Tapclean is a command-line version of FinalTap, but more recently updated.

The latest version of WAV-PRG can create clean TAP files from WAV files,
and give hints on where something went wrong.
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