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Here Comes The Circus information [message #186505] Mon, 23 July 2012 19:38 Go to next message
nebusj- is currently offline  nebusj-
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I was looking through _Castle Films: A Hobbyist's Guide_ by
Scott MacGillvray for a different baffling short film, but came
across this page which mentioned data on _Here Comes The Circus_:

http://books.google.com.sg/books?id=LyesAyRMj1MC&lpg=PA1 17&ots=Q_nmwjJA8Z&dq=%22snookum%20bears%20on%20a%20r ampage%22&pg=PA117#v=onepage&q=%22snookum%20bears%20 on%20a%20rampage%22&f=false

According to MacGillvray,

``Another sturdy Castle topic was the circus. Castle
regularly released circus and zoo subjects for decades, sometimes
using both themes in the same film. Here Comes The Circus,
according to the catalog, was hailed as one of the very best
filmed presentations of a circus. The film features 'sad clown'
Emmett Kelly and animal trainer Clyde Beatty.

``In 1967 Here Comes The Circus was withdrawn, leaving a
vacancy in the `circus' section. The 1950 zoo tour Circus At The
Zoo was relocated from the `animal' section to replace it.''

Also, apparently, the 1938 _A Day At The Zoo_ was originally
listed as a sports reel, then a travelogue, before being ensconced as a
children's short.

What I still don't know is what we, the viewers at home, were
to be entertained by just by the shots of Emmett Kelly eating. It
plays like callbacks to something the audience could be presumed to
recognize, but without knowing just what that was, it's ... Emmett
Kelly eating.

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Re: Here Comes The Circus information [message #186509 is a reply to message #186505] Wed, 25 July 2012 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Elrod is currently offline  Doug Elrod
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On Monday, July 23, 2012 7:38:59 PM UTC-4, Joseph Nebus wrote:

> What I still don't know is what we, the viewers at home, were
> to be entertained by just by the shots of Emmett Kelly eating. It
> plays like callbacks to something the audience could be presumed to
> recognize, but without knowing just what that was, it's ... Emmett
> Kelly eating.

Maybe some joker mixed up the lunch breaks and the shooting schedule for Emmett Kelly! Leading to comedy....

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
EVENTUALLY :-)
Re: Here Comes The Circus information [message #186511 is a reply to message #186505] Wed, 25 July 2012 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank J. Lhota is currently offline  Frank J. Lhota
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On 7/23/2012 7:38 PM, Joseph Nebus wrote:
> I was looking through _Castle Films: A Hobbyist's Guide_ by
> Scott MacGillvray for a different baffling short film, but came
> across this page which mentioned data on _Here Comes The Circus_:
>
> http://books.google.com.sg/books?id=LyesAyRMj1MC&lpg=PA1 17&ots=Q_nmwjJA8Z&dq=%22snookum%20bears%20on%20a%20r ampage%22&pg=PA117#v=onepage&q=%22snookum%20bears%20 on%20a%20rampage%22&f=false
>
> According to MacGillvray,
>
> ``Another sturdy Castle topic was the circus. Castle
> regularly released circus and zoo subjects for decades, sometimes
> using both themes in the same film. Here Comes The Circus,
> according to the catalog, was hailed as one of the very best
> filmed presentations of a circus. The film features 'sad clown'
> Emmett Kelly and animal trainer Clyde Beatty.
>
> ``In 1967 Here Comes The Circus was withdrawn, leaving a
> vacancy in the `circus' section. The 1950 zoo tour Circus At The
> Zoo was relocated from the `animal' section to replace it.''
>
> Also, apparently, the 1938 _A Day At The Zoo_ was originally
> listed as a sports reel, then a travelogue, before being ensconced as a
> children's short.
>
> What I still don't know is what we, the viewers at home, were
> to be entertained by just by the shots of Emmett Kelly eating. It
> plays like callbacks to something the audience could be presumed to
> recognize, but without knowing just what that was, it's ... Emmett
> Kelly eating.
>

I know Scott MacGillvray quite well. He runs the Boston chapter of the
Laurel and Hardy Appreciation Society ("The Boston Brats"). See

http://home.sprintmail.com/~2macgillivrays

Some of the MST3K crew are big fans of Laurel and Hardy. Kevin Murphy
wrote that the L&H films were the funniest films ever made. Maybe that's
why lines from Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy occasionally make it into riffs.

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Re: Here Comes The Circus information [message #186622 is a reply to message #186509] Wed, 01 August 2012 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In <b9f8ed04-39c0-41e5-850e-f66dccc29066@googlegroups.com> Doug Elrod <dre1@cornell.edu> writes:

> On Monday, July 23, 2012 7:38:59 PM UTC-4, Joseph Nebus wrote:
>
>> What I still don&#39;t know is what we, the viewers at home, were
>> to be entertained by just by the shots of Emmett Kelly eating. It
>> plays like callbacks to something the audience could be presumed to
>> recognize, but without knowing just what that was, it&#39;s ... Emmett
>> Kelly eating.

> Maybe some joker mixed up the lunch breaks and the shooting schedule for Emmett Kelly! Leading to comedy....

Could be. I did not realize (or suspect) that _Here Comes
The Circus_ came from before the Hartford Circus Fire. That's not
really relevant, but it still feels like ... well, somehow big, to
have the recording of Ringling Brothers before such a traumatic
event.

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Current Entry: Reading the Comics, July 28, 2012 http://wp.me/p1RYhY-hO
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Re: Here Comes The Circus information [message #186623 is a reply to message #186511] Wed, 01 August 2012 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In <juq6e5$ape$1@news.albasani.net> "Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOSPAM@rcn.com> writes:

> I know Scott MacGillvray quite well. He runs the Boston chapter of the
> Laurel and Hardy Appreciation Society ("The Boston Brats"). See

> http://home.sprintmail.com/~2macgillivrays

Oh, neat. Thank you.


> Some of the MST3K crew are big fans of Laurel and Hardy. Kevin Murphy
> wrote that the L&H films were the funniest films ever made. Maybe that's
> why lines from Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy occasionally make it into riffs.

I've caught several of them through Turner Classic Movies, and
keep enjoying them. It's actually a bit surprising; even ones that I
expect are going to annoy me because I can figure out where the plot has
to go or what comic beats are being set up keep being fun.

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Current Entry: Reading the Comics, July 28, 2012 http://wp.me/p1RYhY-hO
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Re: Here Comes The Circus information [message #186736 is a reply to message #186622] Wed, 01 August 2012 19:54 Go to previous message
Jim Ellwanger is currently offline  Jim Ellwanger
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In article <jvaeih$dso$4@reader1.panix.com>,
nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote:

> I did not realize (or suspect) that _Here Comes The Circus_ came from
> before the Hartford Circus Fire. That's not really relevant, but it
> still feels like ... well, somehow big, to have the recording of
> Ringling Brothers before such a traumatic event.

I don't think so -- the fire was in 1944, and "Here Comes the Circus"
was released in 1946.

Incidentally, I was quite surprised, when I saw "The Life of Reilly," to
learn that Charles Nelson Reilly was a survivor of that fire.

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