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Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it! [message #183837] Thu, 27 October 2011 15:18 Go to next message
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I believe there are some condiment users and/or lovers here. I guess
it was just a matter of time before someone had the idea to replace
the ordinary vinegar in ketchup with BALSAMIC VINEGAR
(see < http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/business/media/ketchup-mov es-
upmarket-with-a-balsamic-tinge.html>
aka <http://preview.tinyurl.com/3f5f87q).

Does anyone have any idea how this would taste?

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
"Waffles are no more than a vehicle for butter and syrup!" -Dr.
Clayton Forrester
Re: Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it! [message #183839 is a reply to message #183837] Fri, 28 October 2011 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article
<2c090fec-94da-47be-9dab-324f8fc50361@t8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
Doug Elrod <dre1@cornell.edu> wrote:

> I believe there are some condiment users and/or lovers here. I guess
> it was just a matter of time before someone had the idea to replace
> the ordinary vinegar in ketchup with BALSAMIC VINEGAR
> (see < http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/business/media/ketchup-mov es-
> upmarket-with-a-balsamic-tinge.html>
> aka <http://preview.tinyurl.com/3f5f87q).
>
> Does anyone have any idea how this would taste?
>
> -Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
> "Waffles are no more than a vehicle for butter and syrup!" -Dr.
> Clayton Forrester

Basically it sounds like a good idea - balsamic vinegar is more pungent
than regular vinegar and would combine well with a thick tomato ketchup.
It's great in a salad dressing with olive oil (the vinegar, not the
ketchup). This ketchup is probably watered down and anemic, though, on
a hamburger sandwich with french fried potatoes.

Judith

--
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-Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
Re: Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it! [message #183840 is a reply to message #183839] Mon, 31 October 2011 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Oct 28, 10:24 am, Judith <J...@withouta.net> wrote:
> In article
> <2c090fec-94da-47be-9dab-324f8fc50...@t8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
>  Doug Elrod <d...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>> I believe there are some condiment users and/or lovers here.  I guess
>> it was just a matter of time before someone had the idea to replace
>> the ordinary vinegar in ketchup with BALSAMIC VINEGAR
>> (see < http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/business/media/ketchup-mov es-
>> upmarket-with-a-balsamic-tinge.html>
>> aka <http://preview.tinyurl.com/3f5f87q).
>
>> Does anyone have any idea how this would taste?
>
>> -Doug Elrod (d...@cornell.edu)
>>  "Waffles are no more than a vehicle for butter and syrup!" -Dr.
>> Clayton Forrester
>
> Basically it sounds like a good idea - balsamic vinegar is more pungent
> than regular vinegar and would combine well with a thick tomato ketchup.  
> It's great in a salad dressing with olive oil (the vinegar, not the
> ketchup).  This ketchup is probably watered down and anemic, though, on
> a hamburger sandwich with french fried potatoes.

So, it's probably *low* on the "Makes you want to Blame Your Parents"
scale? I just wonder if every condiment has a unique BYP value!
BTW, I recently saw a child Halloween costume that was a KETCHUP
PACKET! (see
<http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11912898>, warning
for those allergic to EXTREME CUTENESS! :-))
If only Big Rob were here to see it....

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
Or Martin Balsam!
Re: Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it! [message #183841 is a reply to message #183840] Tue, 01 November 2011 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now: It's a Miracle... Whip (was Re: Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it!) [message #183842 is a reply to message #183841] Wed, 02 November 2011 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Nov 1, 9:39 am, Judith <J...@withouta.net> wrote:
> Older ratmm-ers will recall (maybe they won't, if they're *too* old)
> that years ago there was a thread here devoted to condiments.  Many
> people weighed in, with passionate views on mayo, ketchup, etc., but one
> member, I forget his name, wrote long diatribes, over several years and
> several threads, against mayonnaise (mayoNAISE).  I wonder what he
> thinks of the new fancy-shmancy ketchup?

Ah, I guess that wouldn't have been OSCAR WINNER LOUIS GOSSETT, JR,
would it?

But, truly, condiments are a crucial part of culture. In fact, I can
foresee a day when we think of their creation as inflection points as
significant as that of automobiles or computers. Consider, for
instance, *****MIRACLE WHIP*****! Can you imagine the primitive
"spreads" people put on their sandwiches before this product was
created? Difficult, isn't it? Any time travelers would have to take
care, just in case they landed in the BMW epoch! ;-)

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
This BK era, with its new mores.... HOW WILL CIVILIZATION ADJUST?
(It's the kind of thing that perhaps only an Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
could explain!)
Re: Now: It's a Miracle... Whip (was Re: Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it!) [message #183843 is a reply to message #183842] Sat, 05 November 2011 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Now: It's a Miracle... Whip (was Re: Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it!) [message #183949 is a reply to message #183843] Mon, 07 November 2011 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Nov 5, 6:43 pm, Judith <J...@withouta.net> wrote:
> So are you saying that balsamic vinegar ketchup is the new Miracle Whip?

I think, in the far distant future (perhaps the year 2525, if man is
still alive!), someone will realize that mayonnaise, and, yes, Miracle
Whip itself, contain VINEGAR. Only the advanced humanoids of that
day, however, will be ready to substitute BALSAMIC VINEGAR into the
recipes for these products, though!

> And did those in the dawn of the AMW epoch say "Hellman,  Schmellman!"?

I believe that was an essential part of the original, mystical origins
of MW! (It's the part of Merlin's book in M.S.o.M.W. that we didn't
get to see! ;-)).

> Oh brave new world, that has these condiments in it!

One would have to be brave, to try some of them ;-)

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
pondering if William Shakespeare foresaw this day. Hmmm....
Re: Now: It's a Miracle... Whip (was Re: Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it!) [message #183950 is a reply to message #183949] Mon, 07 November 2011 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Now: It's a Miracle... Whip (was Re: Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it!) [message #183951 is a reply to message #183950] Fri, 11 November 2011 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Nov 7, 5:16 pm, Judith <J...@withouta.net> wrote:
> Yes, and only time will tell if they're still around for the coming of
> the Second Age (SAOC) (when the great condiment war will come upon us
> all.  Can you tell I'm re-watching B5?).  Mayo, being French, is
> immortal.  MW, of hardy American stock, I know has existed for over 60
> years.  But whither that upstart balsamic ketchup????

Ah, I believe the First Great Condiment War was called...
SUPER SLOPPY DOUBLE DARE! ;-)

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
So, Virginia Mayo is French, and therefore immortal? (thud)
Re: Prepare for the Balsamapocalypse! Or, Brave New World, that has Balsamic Ketchup in it! [message #184064 is a reply to message #183837] Sat, 17 December 2011 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Oct 27, 2:18 pm, Doug Elrod <d...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> I believe there are some condiment users and/or lovers here.  I guess
> it was just a matter of time before someone had the idea to replace
> the ordinary vinegar in ketchup with BALSAMIC VINEGAR
> (see < http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/business/media/ketchup-mov es-
> upmarket-with-a-balsamic-tinge.html>
> aka <http://preview.tinyurl.com/3f5f87q).
>
> Does anyone have any idea how this would taste?
>
> -Doug Elrod (d...@cornell.edu)
>  "Waffles are no more than a vehicle for butter and syrup!" -Dr.
> Clayton Forrester

I once used a ketchup that had burgandy wine added too it...a sister
condiment to Dijon mustard. It had a more complex taste than regular
ketchup.

Paul Duca--the Supercharged MSTie
#56954


"I don't think I would make a very inspiring disabled person"
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