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New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #164413] Wed, 13 August 2008 19:12 Go to next message
Jonah Falcon is currently offline  Jonah Falcon
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Just got the email.
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #164414 is a reply to message #164413] Thu, 14 August 2008 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: dgates

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT), Jonah Falcon
<jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Just got the email.

That's an odd one to riff, I would think.

I know they have some reason to want to riff DVDs that people might
already own, but I thought this was a pretty enjoyable movie. And I
can't imagine what they could add by talking over it.

The perfect rifftraxes, IMO, were the Star Wars prequels, since even
those who feel obligated to buy them have to concede that there's
plenty of riffable material in there.
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #164415 is a reply to message #164414] Thu, 14 August 2008 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael

On Aug 14, 6:47 am, dgates <dga...@somedomain.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT), Jonah Falcon
>
> <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> Just got the email.
>
> That's an odd one to riff, I would think.
>
> I know they have some reason to want to riff DVDs that people might
> already own, but I thought this was a pretty enjoyable movie.  And I
> can't imagine what they could add by talking over it.
>
> The perfect rifftraxes, IMO, were the Star Wars prequels, since even
> those who feel obligated to buy them have to concede that there's
> plenty of riffable material in there.

I agree. I thought Ocean's Eleven was good. I just couldn't see ( or
hear )
Mike Nelson doing that. I usually just stick to Mst3k and the old
cheesy movies.
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #164520 is a reply to message #164415] Thu, 14 August 2008 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: dgates

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:51:07 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<michaelr96@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 14, 6:47 am, dgates <dga...@somedomain.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT), Jonah Falcon
>>
>> <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> Just got the email.
>>
>> That's an odd one to riff, I would think.
>>
>> I know they have some reason to want to riff DVDs that people might
>> already own, but I thought this was a pretty enjoyable movie.  And I
>> can't imagine what they could add by talking over it.
>>
>> The perfect rifftraxes, IMO, were the Star Wars prequels, since even
>> those who feel obligated to buy them have to concede that there's
>> plenty of riffable material in there.
>
> I agree. I thought Ocean's Eleven was good. I just couldn't see ( or
> hear )
> Mike Nelson doing that. I usually just stick to Mst3k and the old
> cheesy movies.

Maybe he'll make it work. But it seems that a lot of the best riffs
come when the riffers' point of view is at odds with the filmmakers'
point of view.

Think of Joel's comment toward the very end of Mitchell: "They've only
got a few more minutes to make him likable. Think they can do it?"

I can't picture an equivalent to that in "Ocean's 11." Will we hear
Bill Corbett saying "See? You can tell he's cool 'cause he wears
sunglasses indoors," or something like that.


Another source of humor is when our guys notice some cultural
reference that the original filmmakers didn't. I remember in a Gamera
movie, there was a character who said, a couple times, "Boy!" or even
once "Boy! Boy!" and each time Tom would sing "Boy, boy, crazy boy."

But I don't think Soderbergh accidentally left in any "Boy! Boy!" type
lines for our characters to complete.


When someone sees it, maybe they can give us the scoop on it.
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #164521 is a reply to message #164520] Thu, 14 August 2008 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Michael

Well, your right. You can't know if It'll be good or not just by the
movie there riffing.
These guys are trained professionals when it comes to riffing.
I remember in industructable man, one of the ladies didn't blink for a
very long time.
Before you knew it, Joel, Crow, and Tom Servo were shouting, BLINK!
BLINK!
I would have never even that if they didn't shout that.
I'm sure It"ll be funny, now that I think of it.
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #164522 is a reply to message #164413] Thu, 14 August 2008 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Aug 13, 7:12 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Just got the email.

Is it the newer one, or the old Rat Pack one?

(Hmmm, time to pick up a new rat pack. I'm just about out! ;-))

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
P.S. Did you see that Martha Stewart, who's apparently a fan of MST3K
(who knew?) is sponsoring a show MSTing her old show? (<http://
www.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/business/media/11martha.html>) The mind
boggles!
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #164524 is a reply to message #164521] Fri, 15 August 2008 02:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: dgates

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:09:56 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<michaelr96@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, you're right. You can't know if it'll be good or not just
> by the movie there riffing.
> These guys are trained professionals when it comes to riffing.

(I hope you're being silly with your choice of the term "trained
professionals," but I know what you mean :-)


> I remember in Industructable Man, one of the ladies didn't blink
> for a very long time.
> Before you knew it, Joel, Crow, and Tom Servo were shouting, BLINK!
> BLINK!

That's awesome!


> I would have never even noticed if they didn't shout that.

I hear ya. They're great when they find something that's not exactly
there until they point it out. Like replying to that guy saying "Boy!
Boy!" in the Gamera movie.

(That said, I still wonder if Soderbergh is inattentive enough to let
something that odd slip through without doing it deliberately.

> I'm sure it'll be funny, now that I think of it.

I think you're right. There will definitely be some good jokes. If I
actually owned Ocean's 11, I'd do the Rifftrax in a heartbeat.
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #164525 is a reply to message #164522] Fri, 15 August 2008 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doug Elrod <dre1@cornell.edu> writes:

> On Aug 13, 7:12=A0pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> Just got the email.

> Is it the newer one, or the old Rat Pack one?

> (Hmmm, time to pick up a new rat pack. I'm just about out! ;-))

I love the scene where they outline breaking into the Desilu
studios.


> -Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
> P.S. Did you see that Martha Stewart, who's apparently a fan of MST3K
> (who knew?) is sponsoring a show MSTing her old show? (<http://
> www.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/business/media/11martha.html>) The mind
> boggles!

Not only does the mind boggle, but it then places the boggled
mind in a lovely wicker basket on a mesh of plastic grass left over
from Easter, and place it on the half-wall for the kitchen where it
makes a lovely decoration and provides a visual distraction so people
won't notice you always keep the car keys and cell phone plugged in
there.

What gets me is the description of Martha Stewart watching the
show while she had insomnia one night. It's a selection of celebrity
and TV show that I wouldn't think to mix up. (I'd have guessed she was
a fan of BBC America's _How Unimaginably Filthy Can Britons Possibly
Get?_ instead.) It's like hearing Isaac Asimov was a fan of _Laverne
and Shirley_.

--
Joseph Nebus
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Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #164528 is a reply to message #164525] Fri, 15 August 2008 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Aug 15, 3:19 pm, nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote:
> Doug Elrod <d...@cornell.edu> writes:
>         I love the scene where they outline breaking into the Desilu
> studios.

Hey, wasn't that MAUDLIN'S 11 from SCTV? ;-) Fun stuff! (YMMV)

>> -Doug Elrod (d...@cornell.edu)
>> P.S.  Did you see that Martha Stewart, who's apparently a fan of MST3K
>> (who knew?) is sponsoring a show MSTing her old show? (<http://
>> www.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/business/media/11martha.html>)  The mind
>> boggles!
>
>         Not only does the mind boggle, but it then places the boggled
> mind in a lovely wicker basket on a mesh of plastic grass left over
> from Easter, and place it on the half-wall for the kitchen where it
> makes a lovely decoration and provides a visual distraction so people
> won't notice you always keep the car keys and cell phone plugged in
> there.

Somehow I'm thinking this is in a branch of that kitchen with ALL-TOO-
MANY POTHOLDERS in "Touch of Satan". It would explain so much! ;-)

>         What gets me is the description of Martha Stewart watching the
> show while she had insomnia one night.  It's a selection of celebrity
> and TV show that I wouldn't think to mix up.

Someday it will be revealed that, like Kevin Bacon, everyone of note
in this generation was a fan of MST3K. Not to say that Kevin Bacon
was a fan... BUT IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME!

> (I'd have guessed she was
> a fan of BBC America's _How Unimaginably Filthy Can Britons Possibly
> Get?_ instead.)  It's like hearing Isaac Asimov was a fan of _Laverne
> and Shirley_.

I think, rather that it's Laverne and Shirley being fans of Isaac
Asimov! I just wonder if they ever broke any of the Laws of Robotics
during their various hijinks with or without Lenny and Squiggy!

-Doug Elrod (dre1@cornell.edu)
guessing that Nostradamus not only *PREDICTED* MST3K, but he was
also... A FAN! :-)
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #165443 is a reply to message #164415] Fri, 29 August 2008 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Aug 14, 7:51 am, Michael <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 14, 6:47 am, dgates <dga...@somedomain.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT), Jonah Falcon
>
>> <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> Just got the email.
>
>> That's an odd one to riff, I would think.
>
>> I know they have some reason to want to riff DVDs that people might
>> already own, but I thought this was a pretty enjoyable movie.  And I
>> can't imagine what they could add by talking over it.
>
>> The perfect rifftraxes, IMO, were the Star Wars prequels, since even
>> those who feel obligated to buy them have to concede that there's
>> plenty of riffable material in there.
>
> I agree. I thought Ocean's Eleven was good. I just couldn't see ( or
> hear )
> Mike Nelson doing that. I usually just stick to Mst3k and the old
> cheesy movies.

I hated Ocean's 11, but they've riffed good movies before (see:
Raiders of the Lost Ark)
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #165549 is a reply to message #165443] Fri, 29 August 2008 04:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: dgates

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:32:15 -0700 (PDT), Jonah Falcon
<jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote:

> On Aug 14, 7:51 am, Michael <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 14, 6:47 am, dgates <dga...@somedomain.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT), Jonah Falcon
>>
>>> <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> Just got the email.
>>
>>> That's an odd one to riff, I would think.
>>
>>> I know they have some reason to want to riff DVDs that people might
>>> already own, but I thought this was a pretty enjoyable movie.  And I
>>> can't imagine what they could add by talking over it.
>>
>>> The perfect rifftraxes, IMO, were the Star Wars prequels, since even
>>> those who feel obligated to buy them have to concede that there's
>>> plenty of riffable material in there.
>>
>> I agree. I thought Ocean's Eleven was good. I just couldn't see ( or
>> hear )
>> Mike Nelson doing that. I usually just stick to Mst3k and the old
>> cheesy movies.
>
> I hated Ocean's 11, but they've riffed good movies before (see:
> Raiders of the Lost Ark)

You hated Ocean's 11? The remake?

I was very disappointed with the original, but that's because I've
heard it talked up for years.

I would think that anyone who actually chose to see the remake would
find that it delivered pretty good entertainment, no?


As for Raiders, maybe I should check it out. But I stand by my theory
that most riffs work best when our riffers are noticing something that
the original filmmakers didn't. That said, I can't imagine that
there's a lot in the original Raiders that Steven Spielberg, George
Lucas and Lawrence Kasdan didn't notice and/or intend.


Hmm, okay, I just watched a scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KxlUkRlRNo


I guess they've found plenty to comment about without actually
pointing out "flaws" in the movie. So, fair enough. It looks like
they can do a good movie, and still get some laughs out of it :-)
Re: New Rifftrax: Ocean's 11 [message #165664 is a reply to message #165549] Sun, 31 August 2008 08:59 Go to previous message
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