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I don't know if this has been done before but I'd like to poll this
newsgroup for the worst 3 episodes.

27  The Alternative Factor      The Enterprise is caught in a space blink, and
    SD:3087.6                   has to contend with Lazarus, who is fighting
                                with an Anti-Lazarus in an Anti-Universe.

Absolutely, positively the worst episode I've ever seen.

70  Let That Be Your Last       The Enterprise picks up two people, one black
    Battlefield                 on the left side of his body, the other on 
    SD:5730.2                   the right.  They are both fighting to see
                                which race is the dominant race.

This is actually somewhat similar to "The Alternative Factor".

75  The Way to Eden             The Enterprise takes on some space hippies who
    SD:5832.3                   take over ther Enterprise in a quest for the
                                planet Eden.  When they arrive at Eden they
                                find a poisonous planet.

I did not worry about missing some of it when I was changing channels
during commercials.

Thanx goes to Steve Scott at AT&T Bell Laboratories Whippany NJ (whuxl!scott)
for the episode information.

If you don't have a listing of all the episodes, I'll be glad to send you them.
(If there are enough requests I'll post it.)

So come on guys mail in those responses !!!
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THE WORST Star Trek episode is "The Omega Glory".  There is no competition.

					-- Mark A.
					...uw-beaver!ssc-vax!adolph

	"We'll cross out that bridge when we come back to it later."

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Nf-From: wdl1!jrb    Jan 30 11:17:00 1985

How about _The Omega Glory_?  Yangs and Comms fight it out.  Or what about
_Spectre of the Gun_?  Kirk and friends shoot it out with Wyatt Earp at the
OK Corral.

				John R Blaker
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--
 >>  THE WORST Star Trek episode is "The Omega Glory". 
 >>  There is no competition.

 >>  					-- Mark A.

I agree.  The Space Hippies episode, though egregious, is
kind of camp.  Omega Glory was just too damn pretentious.
But it could have been worse--the script for Omega Glory
was one of three being considered for the pilot episode!
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 >>>> >>>>>O<

 >  THE WORST Star Trek episode is "The Omega Glory".  There is no competition.
 >  
 >  					-- Mark A.
 >  					...uw-beaver!ssc-vax!adolph

I happened to like "The Omega Glory". I have two nominations for the
worst episode. (In fact, there are only two episodes that I refuse to
watch). "The Apple", with all the natives prancing around like they're
part of some big toga party makes me sick, and of course, "Metamorphosis",
with darling little Eleanor Donahue as the huffy bitch who becomes pos-
sessed by a dustball is a gigantic bore. (Well, Zephram knows best)


The best episodes have to be "Mirror, Mirror", where the landing party
finds themselves beamed up into an alternate universe something like
Newark, "Arena", where Kirk plays Cat and Mouse with a lizzard, and
"The Enterprise Incident (?)", a Cloak and Dagger episode with the
Romulans.

Dave Bloom
Bell Labs, Holmdel		"You're never alone with a schizophrenic..."

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 > THE WORST Star Trek episode is "The Omega Glory".  There is no competition.

Well, yes.  "And the Children Shall Lead"

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Before you say any episode is the worst, don't forget to consider
"And the Children Shall Lead", friendly(:->) angel and all.

Jon Biggar
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 >  *** YOUR MESSAGE ***
 >  
 >  THE WORST Star Trek episode is "The Omega Glory".  There is no competition.
 >  
 >  					-- Mark A.
 >  					...uw-beaver!ssc-vax!adolph
 >  
 >  	"We'll cross out that bridge when we come back to it later."

			*** REPLACED MESSAGE ***

	Oh come on!!!  "And the Children Shall Lead"?!?

	"SPOCK'S BRAIN"?????  Even Klingons wouldn't enjoy them!

				George Raiche
				Dept. of Chemistry
				Dartmouth

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 >  How about _The Omega Glory_?  Yangs and Comms fight it out.  Or what about
 >  _Spectre of the Gun_?  Kirk and friends shoot it out with Wyatt Earp at the
 >  OK Corral.

I happened to like "Spectre of the Gun", but "The Omega Glory" was the pits.

Here's my lists of 5 best and worst:

	BEST				WORST
	----				-----

1)  "Balance of Terror"			"The Omega Glory"
2)  "The Doomsday Machine"              "The Man Trap"
3)  "Mirror, Mirror"			"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
4)  "The Tholian Web"		 	"The Apple" 
5)  "Amok Time"				"The Way To Eden"

Why does it seem like they show some episodes ten times more often than 
others??  I saw "Amok Time" for the first time in years this morning,
and I can't remember the last time I saw "The Trouble with Tribbles",
"The Tholian Web", "Tommorrow is Yesterday", "The Savage Curtain", and
others--I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about.

 

-- 
				Bob Lynch
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I don't know about all of you, but I think "Turnabout Intruder" was
*really* bad.  I guess I have to agree that "And the Children Shall Lead"
is also one of the worst.

For the best, I'd have to name a few: "The City on the Edge of Forever",
"A Piece of the Action", "Assignment: Earth", and the "Doomsday Machine".

-- 
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 "Generally you don't see that kind of behavior in a major appliance."

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I am surprized that no one has yet mentioned the episode both me and
my sister (a real trekkie, she has all the books and goes to cons) 
consider to be global minima (oops my research creeps in at the oddest
moments).  Anyway the answer is "Spock's Ears".  Where a beautiful 
woman appear without warning (or possibly with warning) on the enterprise
and steal spock's ears without which he can not think to use for
the air conditioning system.  Oops I have been thinking of this episode as
spock's ears for so long it leaked into this article please substitute
brain for ear in all previous sentences (but not this one or it won't make
sense).  I can recite a synopsis of the rest of the plot but it gets
much worse and less sensible after this.  

-David Sher

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Nf-From: uok!dwhitney    Feb  3 23:33:00 1985


Here are my three least-favorites, in no particular order.

1.  Spock's Brain.  Space-girl rips out Spock's brain without stitches.

    He blinks, he walks, he even arm wrestles, and his hair is in place!
    AAARRGGGHH!

2.  And the Children Shall Lead.  Melvin Belli embellishes a bunch of
    dippy kids with hallucinogenic powers...

3.  Spectre of the Gun....as David Gerrold said in "The World of Star
    Trek.." , this one was done because they "didn't have a science-fiction
    script, so they did a western"  (words to that effect..)


David Whitney
ctvax!uokvax!uok!dwhitney.

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*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***

 >  Before you say any episode is the worst, don't forget to consider
 >  "And the Children Shall Lead", friendly(:->) angel and all.

Attorney Melvin Belli (of Indian Chemical Disaster fame) as a Gorgon gives
this episode at least some redeeming comic and historic value.

					-- Mark A.
					...uw-beaver!ssc-vax!adolph

	"We'll cross out that bridge when we come back to it later."

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[ This space for rent ]

People,

Instead of just stating what your choice for worst episode is, why
not SUPPORT your conclusion?  That makes for far more interesting
reading that simply saying "Without a doubt,  is the worst episode.
So there."

Personally, I can't decide which episode is worst.  This isn't because
I have a long list of bad ST episodes, but because almost all of them
have at least ten or twenty good minutes of story.

However, the costumes in "Gamesters of Triskelion" make me laugh,
so I've never noticed the plot of that episode.  

Thanks,

Rafe Needleman
(...!tektronix!reed!rafe)


("A mass of conflicting impulses..."

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I don't remember the name, but one of my least favorite episodes was that which
had Kirk, Uhura and Chekhov being used as gladiators in a triangular arena
for the betting pleasures of a few lumps of brain on tin cans.  The main
reason was probably that it was shown about 9 times in the same week during my
peak trek-watching year.
-- 
Reid Ellis	"With great power comes great reponsibility" - Spiderman
{allegra,decvax,duke,floyd,linus}!utzoo!dciem!reid

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I can't take it any more!  I personally now upwards of three people
who know the music and lyrics for ALL of the great "Way to Eden"
songs.  The space hippies made a warm, lasting impression on me and my
family, and I resent it being tagged as a bad episode.  We need more
examples of Spock playing the lyrette: "That's now! That's real now!"

Mike (It starts to chime) McNally

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 >  
 >  I don't remember the name, but one of my least favorite episodes was that which
 >  had Kirk, Uhura and Chekhov being used as gladiators in a triangular arena
 >  for the betting pleasures of a few lumps of brain on tin cans.  The main
 >  reason was probably that it was shown about 9 times in the same week during my
 >  peak trek-watching year.
 >  -- 
 >  Reid Ellis	"With great power comes great reponsibility" - Spiderman
 >  {allegra,decvax,duke,floyd,linus}!utzoo!dciem!reid

*** REPLACE THIS MESSAGE WITH YOUR LINE ***

You're right. "The Gamesters of Triskellion" (sp?) was a little much.
All that was missing in the Providers' room was the requisite cigar smoke,
and the clink of pool cues.
-- 

		"It's either believe that, or else believe we're 
		 only characters in a series of stories being 
		 written by a couple of hacks who need the money."

Larry Freund
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My three worst episodes have to be:

1. This Way to Eden - Dumb plot, dumb singing (ever notice that one
		      of the hippies has ears that look like
		      cauliflower.)

2. I, Mudd - How did the android get on the Enterprise in the first
	     place?

3. Mantrap - Why didn't the creature waste Bones when she had the
	     chance?


			Rick Wessman
			...{seismo!rochester,rlgvax}!ccice5!ccice2!rrw

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How about "And the Children Shall Lead".  i've always thought of this as
the worst Trek episode.

/Howie Kaye
 

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Here are my three least-favorites, in no particular order.

1.  Spock's Brain.  Space-girl rips out Spock's brain without stitches.

    He blinks, he walks, he even arm wrestles, and his hair is in place!
    AAARRGGGHH!

2.  And the Children Shall Lead.  Melvin Belli embellishes a bunch of
    dippy kids with hallucinogenic powers...

3.  Spectre of the Gun....as David Gerrold said in "The World of Star
    Trek.." , this one was done because they "didn't have a science-fiction
    script, so they did a western"  (words to that effect..)


David Whitney
ctvax!uokvax!uok!dwhitney.