| Buy a C128 database program? [message #308876] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 08:55  |
Harry Potter
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If I created a *good* C128 database program, would anybody buy it? I am wondering because I want to build one. If I succeed, the price will be pretty small, i.e <$13.00.
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #308928 is a reply to message #308876] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 16:04  |
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Originally posted by: Keith
On 2016-01-18, Harry Potter <rose.joseph12@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If I created a *good* C128 database program, would anybody buy it? I
> am wondering because I want to build one. If I succeed, the price
> will be pretty small, i.e <$13.00.
The 128 hasn't been made in 26 years. What possible demand could there
be today? There are also several commercial database programs for the
64 and 128.
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #308940 is a reply to message #308876] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 19:05 |
Your Name
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In article <877fj6zdav.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>, Andreas Kohlbach
<janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> wrote:
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> Well I was looking for a copy of Macintosh System 7 or Apple Works for
> the first Macintosh model (I run in an emulator, not owning one). All
> links Google knows were removed. Even pages hosted at apple.com which
> once offered some vintage software of their own aren't anymore.
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> To put it in your words, what possible demand for System 7 software would
> there be today to offer it for sale? Instead public sources were removed.
http://macintoshgarden.org has lots of old software, including the old
OS installers and AppleWorks.
Or, if you want to buy an original and don't mind paying hellishly
over-bloated prices, Mac OS 7.5.3 and old versions of AppleWorks are
still being sold on http://hardcoremac.com ... or there's always eBay
and similar.
Newer versions of AppleWorks will run on old versions of Mac OS X,
unless you really mean the really old program for the Apple II.
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #308941 is a reply to message #308928] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 19:22 |
Harry Potter
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On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 4:06:46 PM UTC-5, Keith wrote:
> The 128 hasn't been made in 26 years. What possible demand could there
> be today? There are also several commercial database programs for the
> 64 and 128.
I understand. I *really* want to do some database-handling on a C128 emulator,though. I used to have a Better Working database program and liked it. I currently have Handy-Filer64 and like it. I miss the BW database and want one for the C128 as well.
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #308943 is a reply to message #308876] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 19:40 |
Whammo
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On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 5:55:08 AM UTC-8, Harry Potter wrote:
> If I created a *good* C128 database program, would anybody buy it? I am wondering because I want to build one. If I succeed, the price will be pretty small, i.e <$13.00.
Check out Vizastar128 it's the shiznit for shizzle!
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #308959 is a reply to message #308941] |
Mon, 18 January 2016 22:41 |
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In article <0f26c256-de21-48fb-8ed8-3b7329bd2825@googlegroups.com>,
Harry Potter <rose.joseph12@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 4:06:46 PM UTC-5, Keith wrote:
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>> The 128 hasn't been made in 26 years. What possible demand could there
>> be today? There are also several commercial database programs for the
>> 64 and 128.
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> I understand. I *really* want to do some database-handling on a C128
> emulator,though. I used to have a Better Working database program and liked
> it. I currently have Handy-Filer64 and like it. I miss the BW database and
> want one for the C128 as well.
As a programming exercise that you want to do, there's no reason not to
do it, ... but there's no way you're going to make any money out of it,
even at $13.
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #308975 is a reply to message #308941] |
Tue, 19 January 2016 00:35 |
Clocky
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On 19/01/2016 8:22 AM, Harry Potter wrote:
> On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 4:06:46 PM UTC-5, Keith wrote:
>> The 128 hasn't been made in 26 years. What possible demand could there
>> be today? There are also several commercial database programs for the
>> 64 and 128.
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> I understand. I *really* want to do some database-handling on a C128 emulator,though. I used to have a Better Working database program and liked it. I currently have Handy-Filer64 and like it. I miss the BW database and want one for the C128 as well.
>
So program it for yourself. If you complete it and others are interested
then that is a bonus but the way I see it there are likely to be more
database programs available for the C128 then people who would want to
use a database program on a C128.
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #308997 is a reply to message #308959] |
Tue, 19 January 2016 06:57 |
Harry Potter
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On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 10:40:45 PM UTC-5, Your Name wrote:
> As a programming exercise that you want to do, there's no reason not to
> do it, ... but there's no way you're going to make any money out of it,
> even at $13.
Okay. :)
BTW, where can I get Vizastar128?
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #309021 is a reply to message #308941] |
Tue, 19 January 2016 10:41 |
Brandon
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Harry Potter wrote on Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:22:43 -0800 (PST):
> I understand. I *really* want to do some database-handling on a C128 emulator,though. I used to have a Better Working database program and liked it. I currently have Handy-Filer64 and like it. I miss the BW database and want one for the C128 as well.
So do it. Who cares if anyone else is interested? This is a hobby.
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http://www.brandonstaggs.com/c64.html
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| Buy a C128 database program? [message #309053 is a reply to message #308876] |
Tue, 19 January 2016 14:33 |
RobertB
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Back in the day, my favorite, easy-to-use database program was DFile 128. What features would your database have? Would it be a "flat-file" type of database, like DFile 128? Or would it have the features of something like Pocket Filer 3 and Superbase 128?
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #309081 is a reply to message #308940] |
Tue, 19 January 2016 16:33 |
Andreas Kohlbach
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Your Name wrote on 18. January 2016:
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> In article <877fj6zdav.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>, Andreas Kohlbach
> <janrat.9.ankman@spamgourmet.net> wrote:
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>> Well I was looking for a copy of Macintosh System 7 or Apple Works for
>> the first Macintosh model (I run in an emulator, not owning one). All
>> links Google knows were removed. Even pages hosted at apple.com which
>> once offered some vintage software of their own aren't anymore.
>>
>> To put it in your words, what possible demand for System 7 software would
>> there be today to offer it for sale? Instead public sources were removed.
>
> http://macintoshgarden.org has lots of old software, including the old
> OS installers and AppleWorks.
>
> Or, if you want to buy an original and don't mind paying hellishly
> over-bloated prices, Mac OS 7.5.3 and old versions of AppleWorks are
> still being sold on http://hardcoremac.com ... or there's always eBay
> and similar.
Thanks, I'll check them out.
> Newer versions of AppleWorks will run on old versions of Mac OS X,
> unless you really mean the really old program for the Apple II.
Indeed I prefer old program versions with vintage hardware -even if only
emulated.
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Andreas
I use a Unix based operating system, which means I get laid almost as often
as I have to reboot my computer.
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #309109 is a reply to message #309053] |
Tue, 19 January 2016 18:47 |
Harry Potter
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On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 2:33:27 PM UTC-5, rber...@iglou.com wrote:
> Back in the day, my favorite, easy-to-use database program was DFile 128. What features would your database have? Would it be a "flat-file" type of database, like DFile 128? Or would it have the features of something like Pocket Filer 3 and Superbase 128?
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I don't know about what DFile 128 and "flat-file" databases are, but my program is supposed to have five different types of fields--it is to use my Fields library--and up to 20 entries per record, one per line. It is to have certain frills, i.e. multiple configurations and user-defined colors. Other than that, it would have all the features common to general-purpose database programs, i.e. sort, search, etc. It's also going to do a little compression of files, just a little. If you have any other ideas, please post them! :)
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #309110 is a reply to message #309109] |
Tue, 19 January 2016 19:34 |
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In article <743f438f-58cc-4753-8fb3-c29d9aac25a2@googlegroups.com>,
Harry Potter <rose.joseph12@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 2:33:27 PM UTC-5, rber...@iglou.com wrote:
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>> Back in the day, my favorite, easy-to-use database program was DFile 128.
>> What features would your database have? Would it be a "flat-file" type of
>> database, like DFile 128? Or would it have the features of something like
>> Pocket Filer 3 and Superbase 128?
>
> I don't know about what DFile 128 and "flat-file" databases are, but my
> program is supposed to have five different types of fields--it is to use my
> Fields library--and up to 20 entries per record, one per line. It is to have
> certain frills, i.e. multiple configurations and user-defined colors. Other
> than that, it would have all the features common to general-purpose database
> programs, i.e. sort, search, etc. It's also going to do a little compression
> of files, just a little. If you have any other ideas, please post them! :)
If you don't know the difference, then what you doing is almost
certainly a simple "flat-file" database.
A "flat-file" database is basically a box data cards. For example, an
address book would be one record for each different person with their
phone numbers, email address, etc. all stored together.
The other type of database is "relational". That has parent and child
records, often in separate database structures, linked by a common data
item. For example, a business might have five company cars and each car
has separate related records for each individual workshop service. You
can often create small relational-like databases using a flat-file
database system by using duplicate fields, but it is messy and
cumbersome, and can waste a lot of storage space.
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| Re: Buy a C128 database program? [message #309174 is a reply to message #309110] |
Wed, 20 January 2016 06:05 |
Harry Potter
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On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 7:34:39 PM UTC-5, Your Name wrote:
> If you don't know the difference, then what you doing is almost
> certainly a simple "flat-file" database.
>
> A "flat-file" database is basically a box data cards. For example, an
> address book would be one record for each different person with their
> phone numbers, email address, etc. all stored together.
>
> The other type of database is "relational". That has parent and child
> records, often in separate database structures, linked by a common data
> item. For example, a business might have five company cars and each car
> has separate related records for each individual workshop service. You
> can often create small relational-like databases using a flat-file
> database system by using duplicate fields, but it is messy and
> cumbersome, and can waste a lot of storage space.
It's a "flat-file" database.
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| Re: Buy a C128 database progr [message #309425 is a reply to message #309421] |
Fri, 22 January 2016 12:31 |
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On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 7:45:27 AM UTC-8, Ed Vance wrote:
> There is an Company called Iglou, in Louisville, Kentucky.
>
> Each time I see Your messages I think that You are using their
> Email services, are You?
Yes, I use Iglou.com, because they still offer dial-up shell accounts for us users who use Commodores to connect on-line via modem and term program.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
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| Re: Buy a C128 [message #309572 is a reply to message #309421] |
Sun, 24 January 2016 07:29 |
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Originally posted by: Ice_Breaker
> Yes, I use Iglou.com, because they still offer dial-up shell accounts for us users who use Commodores to connect on-line via modem and term program.<
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> Truly,<
> Robert Bernardo<
> Fresno Commodore User Group<
> http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm<
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I always new Robert was hardcore, but
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