| 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186036] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 04:35  |
ramswell
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I "FINALLY" got someone to help me out and thus, have a new website
posted that is ACTIVE AS OF NOW. It will continue to be worked on a
little each week until completed so don't get all FUSSY about it not
BEING WHAT YOU WANT cause it's a work-in-progress.
The address is:
http://www.8bitdesigns.ath.cx
THANKS A LOT KYLE!!!!
Charles> 8-Bit Designs
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186038 is a reply to message #186037] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 06:39  |
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Originally posted by: Kyle J Cardoza
Klompmeester caught my attention by saying:
> "ramswell" <shifty_butch@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:71c91bc2-216a-4da7-9a65-48dff32b4824@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
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>> I "FINALLY" got someone to help me out and thus, have a new website
>> posted that is ACTIVE AS OF NOW. It will continue to be worked on a
>> little each week until completed so don't get all FUSSY about it not
>> BEING WHAT YOU WANT cause it's a work-in-progress.
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>> The address is:
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>> http://www.8bitdesigns.ath.cx
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>> THANKS A LOT KYLE!!!!
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> 100% better than that other shit you had online already Charles.
Hey man, go easy on the guy. Not everyone can be a great web designer. The
trick is finding someone who's willing and able to help at a price you can
afford.
Now, I'm quite certain that what Charles meant was that, since the site is
a work-in-progress, quibbling over the layout and such is rather
pointless. My goal is to turn his old Windows Live Spaces (YUCK!) site
into a thoroughly well-organized catalogue of his products and services,
while being standards compliant and available to as many browsers as
possible.
By the way, my services are available to anyone who cares to reach an
arrangement with me. I tend to follow the "Fast, Good, Cheap: Pick Two"
principal.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186040 is a reply to message #186039] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 09:02 |
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Originally posted by: Kyle J Cardoza
BigRed caught my attention by saying:
>> "This site is under construction, so there's nothing to see just yet."
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> How about waiting until you ACTUALLY have some content to post ?!
I didn't tell him to post, but there is some content; the basic product
catalogue is up, and I'm working on specific product pages.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186043 is a reply to message #186038] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 11:59 |
Golan Klinger
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Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
> Not everyone can be a great web designer.
Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting that
you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell stuff that
looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like he's from 1975.
Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
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Dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186044 is a reply to message #186043] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 12:05 |
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Originally posted by: Kyle J Cardoza
Golan Klinger caught my attention by saying:
> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
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>> Not everyone can be a great web designer.
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> Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting that
> you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell stuff that
> looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like he's from 1975.
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> Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
For cryin' out loud, I started work on it not twelve hours ago, Golan.
Content first, then style. Would you rather see an absurdly pretty site
that's all misspelled Under Construction notices, or some actual content,
in proper English, with a less flashy temporary style?
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186046 is a reply to message #186044] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 12:27 |
ramswell
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On Nov 16, 9:05 am, Kyle J Cardoza <ad...@zetachannel.com> wrote:
> Golan Klinger caught my attention by saying:
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>> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
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>>> Not everyone can be a great web designer.
>
>> Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting that
>> you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell stuff that
>> looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like he's from 1975.
>
>> Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
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> For cryin' out loud, I started work on it not twelve hours ago, Golan.
> Content first, then style. Would you rather see an absurdly pretty site
> that's all misspelled Under Construction notices, or some actual content,
> in proper English, with a less flashy temporary style?
SEE? You did a GREAT JOB of helping me out and look what you get. You
can only imagine how much worse it was on me
Don't worry about peoples "opinions" as you're doing a GREAT JOB and
it's FAR BETTER than it was before!
Charles
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186047 is a reply to message #186045] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 12:31 |
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Originally posted by: Kyle J Cardoza
ramswell caught my attention by saying:
> On Nov 16, 1:44 am, "Klompmeester" <whowh...@andwhy.com> wrote:
>> "ramswell" <shifty_bu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> news:71c91bc2-216a-4da7-9a65-48dff32b4824@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
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>>> I "FINALLY" got someone to help me out and thus, have a new website
>>> posted that is ACTIVE AS OF NOW. It will continue to be worked on a
>>> little each week until completed so don't get all FUSSY about it not
>>> BEING WHAT YOU WANT cause it's a work-in-progress.
>>
>>> The address is:
>>
>>> http://www.8bitdesigns.ath.cx
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>>> THANKS A LOT KYLE!!!!
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>> 100% better than that other shit you had online already Charles.
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> I agree! Thanks a lot! lololol
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> Kyle told me that the problem with the WINDOWS LIVE was that it DID
> NOT SUPPORT CCS (which is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to run a website).
Sorry, Charles, but you misunderstood. not having control of the CSS is
only part of the problem. Not having any control over the structure is a
much bigger part.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186049 is a reply to message #186046] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 12:48 |
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Originally posted by: winston19842005
On 11/16/07 12:27 PM, in article
d5ccb23f-447c-42e5-89dd-59557641e33d@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "ramswell"
<shifty_butch@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 9:05 am, Kyle J Cardoza <ad...@zetachannel.com> wrote:
>> Golan Klinger caught my attention by saying:
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>>> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
>>
>>>> Not everyone can be a great web designer.
>>
>>> Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting that
>>> you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell stuff that
>>> looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like he's from 1975.
>>
>>> Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
>>
>> For cryin' out loud, I started work on it not twelve hours ago, Golan.
>> Content first, then style. Would you rather see an absurdly pretty site
>> that's all misspelled Under Construction notices, or some actual content,
>> in proper English, with a less flashy temporary style?
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> SEE? You did a GREAT JOB of helping me out and look what you get. You
> can only imagine how much worse it was on me
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> Don't worry about peoples "opinions" as you're doing a GREAT JOB and
> it's FAR BETTER than it was before!
Your old one was better than one I saw done in Microsoft FrontPage for the
TI-99...
It had a "Current Date" that never updated.
It looks like the person finally turned around and used Word to redo it,
with his product presented as links to pdf files.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186050 is a reply to message #186048] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 12:51 |
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Originally posted by: Kyle J Cardoza
Brian Ketterling caught my attention by saying:
> In news:ujf%i.1686$Pg.560@fe085.usenetserver.com, Kyle J Cardoza
> <admin@zetachannel.com> wrote:
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>> My goal is to turn his old Windows Live Spaces (YUCK!) site into a
>> thoroughly well-organized catalogue of his products and services, while
>> being standards compliant and available to as many browsers as
>> possible.
>
> It looks like you've put down a good start on a decent website. That
> "Live Spaces" stuff was hideous and aggravating.
>
> Brian
Thanks, but give me a week before you start judging one way or the other.
After I get the content in place, it's time to work some CSS voodoo.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186057 is a reply to message #186040] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 16:23 |
wildstar
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Kyle, in the Commodore community, don't talk about it until it is done.
There was SO much vaporware that it psychologically put a scar in all those
who are here. They puke at the sound of ANY talk before something is
complete.
The Commodore community is a violent, attack everyone who talks about
anything before it is done place. It has lost its friendly community
atmosphere. That was LOST before I even started to post at all in
comp.sys.cbm.
The idea, finish the stuff before you talk publically about stuff. If you
have questions and you need someone's help. Start working on the stuff and
do some google search and library search, first. If you still need help,
then find someone (which would be part of the searching the internet is to
A) search for information that answers your problems and B) find people that
have experience doing similar work. Don't just look in the Commodore
community for help but don't forget to look here. After you done your leg
work, private email the people your questions and provide information about
what you are working on.
It doesn't matter if it is hardware, software or "webware". Start by doing
the leg work yourself. Paul Panks had drove some people bonkers over this,
in the past. Paul is ok, now. So keep that in mind. Then when you have
something completed or almost complete then you got something.
BTW: I have done this kind of stuff myself and had color some cuteness
(although simplistic) in only a few hours. Annoucement was pre-mature. I'm
not complaining at the work but just clarifying things. I would have done
more before annoucing. I know you didn't make the announcement, Kyle.
Just advice. You are on the right track, Kyle.
"Kyle J Cardoza" <admin@zetachannel.com> wrote in message
news:fqh%i.4673$Rv1.725@fe089.usenetserver.com...
> BigRed caught my attention by saying:
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>>> "This site is under construction, so there's nothing to see just yet."
>>
>> How about waiting until you ACTUALLY have some content to post ?!
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> I didn't tell him to post, but there is some content; the basic product
> catalogue is up, and I'm working on specific product pages.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186067 is a reply to message #186044] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 20:15 |
Sam Gillett
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"Kyle J Cardoza" wrote ...
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> For cryin' out loud, I started work on it not twelve hours ago, Golan.
> Content first, then style. Would you rather see an absurdly pretty site
> that's all misspelled Under Construction notices, or some actual content,
> in proper English, with a less flashy temporary style?
Just ignore any flames that may come your way... or better yet, get an
asbestos suit. :-)
You are right about the content being the most important thing for a website
of this type. Then add enough other things to make the site attractive.
Don't go overboard however. I have seen quite a few sites where the bells
and whistles detract from, or even obscure the content, which defeats the
original purpose of the site.
BTW, thanks for helping Charles out. Gee, before I corrected a typo that
said, "thanks for helping Charles pout." :-)
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Best regards,
Sam Gillett
Change is inevitable,
except from vending machines!
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186068 is a reply to message #186067] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 21:01 |
ramswell
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On Nov 16, 5:15 pm, "Sam Gillett" <sgillettnos...@diespammergte.net>
wrote:
> "Kyle J Cardoza" wrote ...
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>> For cryin' out loud, I started work on it not twelve hours ago, Golan.
>> Content first, then style. Would you rather see an absurdly pretty site
>> that's all misspelled Under Construction notices, or some actual content,
>> in proper English, with a less flashy temporary style?
>
> Just ignore any flames that may come your way... or better yet, get an
> asbestos suit. :-)
>
> You are right about the content being the most important thing for a website
> of this type. Then add enough other things to make the site attractive.
> Don't go overboard however. I have seen quite a few sites where the bells
> and whistles detract from, or even obscure the content, which defeats the
> original purpose of the site.
>
> BTW, thanks for helping Charles out. Gee, before I corrected a typo that
> said, "thanks for helping Charles pout." :-)
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Sam Gillett
>
> Change is inevitable,
> except from vending machines!
LOLOLOL!
Thanks TO YOU SAM for maintaining your composure when your
"spirituality" was attacked! ;)
Happens to me all the time in here. Heheheheh
Charles
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186075 is a reply to message #186068] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 22:47 |
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On Nov 16, 6:01 pm, ramswell <shifty_bu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 5:15 pm, "Sam Gillett" <sgillettnos...@diespammergte.net>
> wrote:
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>> "Kyle J Cardoza" wrote ...
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>>> For cryin' out loud, I started work on it not twelve hours ago, Golan.
>>> Content first, then style. Would you rather see an absurdly pretty site
>>> that's all misspelled Under Construction notices, or some actual content,
>>> in proper English, with a less flashy temporary style?
>
>> Just ignore any flames that may come your way... or better yet, get an
>> asbestos suit. :-)
>
>> You are right about the content being the most important thing for a website
>> of this type. Then add enough other things to make the site attractive.
>> Don't go overboard however. I have seen quite a few sites where the bells
>> and whistles detract from, or even obscure the content, which defeats the
>> original purpose of the site.
>
>> BTW, thanks for helping Charles out. Gee, before I corrected a typo that
>> said, "thanks for helping Charles pout." :-)
>> --
>> Best regards,
>
>> Sam Gillett
>
>> Change is inevitable,
>> except from vending machines!
>
> LOLOLOL!
>
> Thanks TO YOU SAM for maintaining your composure when your
> "spirituality" was attacked! ;)
> Happens to me all the time in here. Heheheheh
>
> Charles
Charles,
Pick up a copy of Head First HTML and CSS. It's an easy read and will
give you some great pointers on layout.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186076 is a reply to message #186058] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 23:37 |
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Klompmeester: This is more directed to ramswell then you. I'm preaching to
the choir when talking to you.
When it comes to website design, it doesn't matter what "web-language" you
use. You can have a webpage entirely in PHP if you so deemed to. It is
important to know what the browsers support. What people use to view
websites.
It is important in designing a website so that people can view the website.
CSS is not absolutely required in a website. In fact, websites existed in
pure HTML. Then there is all sorts of extensions and add-ons and script
language. However, CSS is a strong tool in making a website that will look
the same on a variety of web browsers. However, even then, it isn't perfect.
You must test your website with multiple browsers. Choose the common
browsers first. IE, Mozzilla, Opera and some others. Also check how they
view at on multiple platforms (Apple, PC - Windows and Linux and a UNIX/BSD
variant if possible) and at different resolutions.
To make a website for a Commodore community, you will want to use a text
browser and test it on a PC first. Then test it with a REAL Commodore
computer on the internet.
I recommend using server side processing script languages like PHP for order
processing scripts because, you can put alot of intellegence for recognizing
if the viewer is on a Commodore or some PC with a text browser or a modern
graphical browser on PC or Mac. Especially for Commodore BECAUSE the
Commodore does not recognize or process scripts like Javascript that are
called "client-side processing" scripts. They don't process that. With
exception of Lynx which does it over a Lynx browser server. Lynx is a type
of text browser that allows a user to view the web by a Commodore user using
a terminal emulator and ANSI or VT102 terminal emulation. I may have some of
the technical details off but don't worry. Example is Videocam's service. In
the case of other Commodore users, onnecting with say WAVE ( a graphical
browser ) handles very limited graphics and very limited if any script
support. It helps to have the order processing done server side because they
can not do such script processing.
I said enough for one setting.
"Klompmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
news:13js2gmeape2bb3@corp.supernews.com...
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> "ramswell" <shifty_butch@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:397c70ff-33db-4cf0-a5b5-69b493833d52@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 16, 1:44 am, "Klompmeester" <whowh...@andwhy.com> wrote:
>>> "ramswell" <shifty_bu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:71c91bc2-216a-4da7-9a65-48dff32b4824@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I "FINALLY" got someone to help me out and thus, have a new website
>>>> posted that is ACTIVE AS OF NOW. It will continue to be worked on a
>>>> little each week until completed so don't get all FUSSY about it not
>>>> BEING WHAT YOU WANT cause it's a work-in-progress.
>>>
>>>> The address is:
>>>
>>>> http://www.8bitdesigns.ath.cx
>>>
>>>> THANKS A LOT KYLE!!!!
>>>
>>> 100% better than that other shit you had online already Charles.
>>
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>>
>> I agree! Thanks a lot! lololol
>>
>> Kyle told me that the problem with the WINDOWS LIVE was that it DID
>> NOT SUPPORT CCS (which is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to run a
>> website). :):):):)
>>
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> No Charles, you got that completely wrong.
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> You don't need CSS to run a website but you do need to have control over
> the content and layout which you don't get with sites like livespaces.
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Sat, 17 November 2007 02:12 |
dowcom
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Group: comp.sys.cbm Date: Sat, Nov 17, 2007, 1:15am (CST+6) From:
sgillettnospam@diespammergte.net (Sam Gillett)
script:
> You are right about the content being
> the most important thing for a website
> of this type. Then add enough other
> things to make the site attractive.
> Don't go overboard however. I have
> seen quite a few sites where the bells
> and whistles detract from, or even
> obscure the content, which defeats the
> original purpose of the site.
AB-so-LUT-a-mente! (LOLOLOLOL)
Seriously, if it can be made clean and attractive and fast-loading (even
with dial-up) it should be a winner.
Since I have started surfing with DSL on a 'reglur pyuter', I find that
the sites that were 'offensively slow' with Webtv are still 'stupidly
slow' on broadband. (Not to mention all the sites that my browser tells
me 'have errors' or 'dangerous Active-X scripts'.)
An example of a site that is well designed is Google. (No
side-scrolling, and fastfastfast!)
Google is no faster on DSL than on dial-up,Â… it's hard to be faster
than instant.
salaam,
dowcom
To e-mail me, add the character zero to "dowcom". i.e.:
dowcom(zero)(at)webtv(dot)net.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186134 is a reply to message #186057] |
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Originally posted by: 11001010
On Nov 16, 4:23 pm, "Wildstar" <wildstar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kyle, in the Commodore community, don't talk about it until it is done.
> There was SO much vaporware that it psychologically put a scar in all those
> who are here. They puke at the sound of ANY talk before something is
> complete.
>
No one should know this better than you, Wildstar. Remember DOOM64?
Plenty of other examples from you. Ironic that Kyle gets a 'don't
talk about it until it's done' lecture from the Most Totally Full Of
Shit person in the history of Commodore computing.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186141 is a reply to message #186134] |
Sat, 17 November 2007 11:36 |
wildstar
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"11001010" <screamingtonemonkey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:390b0355-4d64-44b2-9bcb-894f45387674@c29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 16, 4:23 pm, "Wildstar" <wildstar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Kyle, in the Commodore community, don't talk about it until it is done.
>> There was SO much vaporware that it psychologically put a scar in all
>> those
>> who are here. They puke at the sound of ANY talk before something is
>> complete.
>>
>
> No one should know this better than you, Wildstar. Remember DOOM64?
> Plenty of other examples from you. Ironic that Kyle gets a 'don't
> talk about it until it's done' lecture from the Most Totally Full Of
> Shit person in the history of Commodore computing.
Did you forget that I was involved as the gfxian in Spork64 and another demo
of Retro64.
Doom64, I remember that. I was pointing out to the fellow things to not do.
Been there might have some wait. This community (or lack of) already lost
what it means to be a community.
Don't forget that before I even started with Doom64 to any degree, I even
considered it a project that won't work or probably won't even have a chance
of working. Do read back far enough and you'll realized that. Every
programmer and coder in the community didn't even attempt to work with it.
NONE of the examples shown by others even meet the specs. Even after a gave
up on the project, (with great humiliation) no one and I mean ABSOLUTELY not
a single man or woman, boy or girl in the Commodore community even attempted
it afterwards.
In order for DOOM to work, it would have taken so much stripping down of the
gfx and all that it would probably be unplayable and visually incoherent.
This community doesn't want to hear about projects until it is done. Do keep
in mind that people also were bringing the topic up. I have not taken on any
project since then that I am not confident that I can do it.
When people flame him for even doing something with the website, it is
obvious. It is one thing to flame someone for not doing anything. Is there
any resemblance of a friendly community left? hell no. People are more
interested in flaming and attacking each other then helping. That is what
sucks. Talk about embarassment.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186143 is a reply to message #186043] |
Sat, 17 November 2007 12:16 |
Arne Luft
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Golan Klinger wrote:
> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
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>> Not everyone can be a great web designer.
>
> Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting that
> you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell stuff that
> looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like he's from 1975.
>
> Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
Actually, I think it is pretty good, at least for those who prefer well
organized content over flashy stuff with hard to find, if any, content.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186145 is a reply to message #186143] |
Sat, 17 November 2007 12:45 |
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Originally posted by: Kyle J Cardoza
Patrick de Zeester caught my attention by saying:
> Golan Klinger wrote:
>> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
>>
>>> Not everyone can be a great web designer.
>>
>> Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting that
>> you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell stuff
>> that looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like he's from
>> 1975.
>>
>> Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
>
> Actually, I think it is pretty good, at least for those who prefer well
> organized content over flashy stuff with hard to find, if any, content.
Jeezie Chreezie... I don't even have the stylesheet written yet, and
people are judging it. Guys, it was revealed weeks before it was ready, so
hold up on the criticism. Wait 'till it's done, then flame away; I'll be
too busy enjoying the fruits of my labour to care.
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Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
> Patrick de Zeester caught my attention by saying:
>
>> Golan Klinger wrote:
>>> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not everyone can be a great web designer.
>>> Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting that
>>> you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell stuff
>>> that looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like he's from
>>> 1975.
>>>
>>> Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
>>
>> Actually, I think it is pretty good, at least for those who prefer well
>> organized content over flashy stuff with hard to find, if any, content.
>
> Jeezie Chreezie... I don't even have the stylesheet written yet, and
> people are judging it. Guys, it was revealed weeks before it was ready, so
> hold up on the criticism. Wait 'till it's done, then flame away; I'll be
> too busy enjoying the fruits of my labour to care.
Ehhh...I was not criticizing you, my remark was intended as a
compliment. I know my English is far from perfect, but I never realized
it was this bad. A nice stylesheet would be just icing on the cake, no
amount of CSS trickery can compensate for lack of content or poor
navigation.
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Sat, 17 November 2007 13:45 |
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On Nov 17, 9:45 am, Kyle J Cardoza <ad...@zetachannel.com> wrote:
> Patrick de Zeester caught my attention by saying:
>
>> Golan Klinger wrote:
>>> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
>
>>>> Not everyone can be a great web designer.
>
>>> Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting that
>>> you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell stuff
>>> that looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like he's from
>>> 1975.
>
>>> Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
>
>> Actually, I think it is pretty good, at least for those who prefer well
>> organized content over flashy stuff with hard to find, if any, content.
>
> Jeezie Chreezie... I don't even have the stylesheet written yet, and
> people are judging it. Guys, it was revealed weeks before it was ready, so
> hold up on the criticism. Wait 'till it's done, then flame away; I'll be
> too busy enjoying the fruits of my labour to care.
If anyones at "FAULT" for revealing the website TO SOON, IT'S ME! He
is the one working on it and getting it all ready to go, all I wanted
to do was to let everyone here know that I heard your complaints
against my "Website," and am TAKING ACTION on it. That's all.
Apologies Kyle for all the hell I caused you.. :(:(
Charles
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Originally posted by: Klompmeester
"Patrick de Zeester" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
>> Patrick de Zeester caught my attention by saying:
>>
>>> Golan Klinger wrote:
>>>> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Not everyone can be a great web designer.
>>>> Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting that
>>>> you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell stuff
>>>> that looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like he's from
>>>> 1975.
>>>>
>>>> Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
>>>
>>> Actually, I think it is pretty good, at least for those who prefer well
>>> organized content over flashy stuff with hard to find, if any, content.
>>
>> Jeezie Chreezie... I don't even have the stylesheet written yet, and
>> people are judging it. Guys, it was revealed weeks before it was ready,
>> so hold up on the criticism. Wait 'till it's done, then flame away; I'll
>> be too busy enjoying the fruits of my labour to care.
>
> Ehhh...I was not criticizing you, my remark was intended as a compliment.
> I know my English is far from perfect, but I never realized it was this
> bad.
It's good, I read it as a compliment too. Maybe it's a Dutch thing though
;-)
A nice stylesheet would be just icing on the cake, no
> amount of CSS trickery can compensate for lack of content or poor
> navigation.
Absolutely.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186152 is a reply to message #186141] |
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Originally posted by: Klompmeester
"Wildstar" <wildstar128@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "11001010" <screamingtonemonkey@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Nov 16, 4:23 pm, "Wildstar" <wildstar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kyle, in the Commodore community, don't talk about it until it is done.
>>> There was SO much vaporware that it psychologically put a scar in all
>>> those
>>> who are here. They puke at the sound of ANY talk before something is
>>> complete.
>>>
>>
>> No one should know this better than you, Wildstar. Remember DOOM64?
>> Plenty of other examples from you. Ironic that Kyle gets a 'don't
>> talk about it until it's done' lecture from the Most Totally Full Of
>> Shit person in the history of Commodore computing.
>
> Did you forget that I was involved as the gfxian in Spork64 and another
> demo of Retro64.
>
> Doom64, I remember that. I was pointing out to the fellow things to not
> do. Been there might have some wait. This community (or lack of) already
> lost what it means to be a community.
>
> Don't forget that before I even started with Doom64 to any degree, I even
> considered it a project that won't work or probably won't even have a
> chance of working. Do read back far enough and you'll realized that. Every
> programmer and coder in the community didn't even attempt to work with it.
> NONE of the examples shown by others even meet the specs. Even after a
> gave up on the project, (with great humiliation) no one and I mean
> ABSOLUTELY not a single man or woman, boy or girl in the Commodore
> community even attempted it afterwards.
>
> In order for DOOM to work, it would have taken so much stripping down of
> the gfx and all that it would probably be unplayable and visually
> incoherent. This community doesn't want to hear about projects until it is
> done. Do keep in mind that people also were bringing the topic up. I have
> not taken on any project since then that I am not confident that I can do
> it.
>
Actually Rick, you were caught out blatantly lying about the Doom64 project
if I recall correctly. I think others will too.
You still talk as if you are an authoritive person on a multitude of
subjects even when you clearly don't have a clue what you are rambling on
about.
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Sat, 17 November 2007 16:58 |
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"Klompmeester" wrote ...
>
> Actually Rick, you were caught out blatantly lying about the Doom64 project
> if I recall correctly. I think others will too.
>
> You still talk as if you are an authoritive person on a multitude of
> subjects even when you clearly don't have a clue what you are rambling on
> about.
Wildstar actually did have a clue several years ago. However, his clue got
lost among his many meaningless ramblings. He has not been able to find it
since. >:-)>
--
Best regards,
Sam Gillett
Why is the third hand on a watch
called the second hand?
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Sat, 17 November 2007 17:09 |
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Sam Gillett wrote:
> "Klompmeester" wrote ...
>> Actually Rick, you were caught out blatantly lying about the Doom64 project
>> if I recall correctly. I think others will too.
>>
>> You still talk as if you are an authoritive person on a multitude of
>> subjects even when you clearly don't have a clue what you are rambling on
>> about.
>
> Wildstar actually did have a clue several years ago.
You mean when he decided to stop posting here?
> However, his clue got lost among his many meaningless ramblings.
> He has not been able to find it since. >:-)>
I'm sure it under a pile of bullshit.
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Sat, 17 November 2007 17:34 |
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"Patrick de Zeester" wrote ...
> Sam Gillett wrote:
>>
>> Wildstar actually did have a clue several years ago.
>
> You mean when he decided to stop posting here?
That is about the right timeframe.
>> However, his clue got lost among his many meaningless ramblings.
>> He has not been able to find it since. >:-)>
>
> I'm sure it under a pile of bullshit.
It looks so much like the rest of the pile... he may never find it! >:-)>
--
Best regards,
Sam Gillett
Why is the third hand on a watch
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186158 is a reply to message #186157] |
Sat, 17 November 2007 18:08 |
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:)
My patience has been rewarded!
:
:
:
On Nov 17, 10:36 am, "Wildstar" <wildstar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "11001010" <screamingtonemon...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:390b0355-4d64-44b2-9bcb-894f45387674@c29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
>> On Nov 16, 4:23 pm, "Wildstar" <wildstar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kyle, in the Commodore community, don't talk about it until it is done.
>>> There was SO much vaporware that it psychologically put a scar in all
>>> those
>>> who are here. They puke at the sound of ANY talk before something is
>>> complete.
>
>> No one should know this better than you, Wildstar. Remember DOOM64?
>> Plenty of other examples from you.
:
>> Ironic that Kyle gets a 'don't
>> talk about it until it's done' lecture from the Most Totally Full Of
>> Shit person in the history of Commodore computing.
:) good one !
> Did you forget that I was involved as the gfxian in Spork64 and another demo
> of Retro64.
:O woooooooooooow ! ! ! ! ! !
Spork64
DOOM64
i see the resemblance.
:
> Doom64, I remember that. I was pointing out to the fellow things to not do.
> Been there might have some wait. This community (or lack of) already lost
> what it means to be a community.
blame us for your hurt feelings.
:
> Don't forget that before I even started with Doom64 to any degree, I even
> considered it a project that won't work or probably won't even have a chance
> of working. Do read back far enough and you'll realized that. Every
> programmer and coder in the community didn't even attempt to work with it.
> NONE of the examples shown by others even meet the specs. Even after a gave
> up on the project, (with great humiliation) no one and I mean ABSOLUTELY not
> a single man or woman, boy or girl in the Commodore community even attempted
> it afterwards.
what he says is true !
> In order for DOOM to work, it would have taken so much stripping down of the
> gfx and all that it would probably be unplayable and visually incoherent.
> This community doesn't want to hear about projects until it is done. Do keep
> in mind that people also were bringing the topic up. I have not taken on any
> project since then that I am not confident that I can do it.
Excelsior OS ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> When people flame him for even doing something with the website, it is
> obvious. It is one thing to flame someone for not doing anything. Is there
> any resemblance of a friendly community left? hell no. People are more
> interested in flaming and attacking each other then helping. That is what
> sucks. Talk about embarassment.
your spelling is an embarrassment.
you have NO sense of humor.
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Sat, 17 November 2007 19:28 |
wildstar
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"christianlott1" <christianlott1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Did you forget that I was involved as the gfxian in Spork64 and another
>> demo
>> of Retro64.
>
>
> :O woooooooooooow ! ! ! ! ! !
>
> Spork64
> DOOM64
>
> i see the resemblance.
Spork 64 has absolutely nothing to do with DOOM 64. Only resemblance is the
numbers 64. Oh, that was because it was in reference to Commodore 64.
>> Don't forget that before I even started with Doom64 to any degree, I even
>> considered it a project that won't work or probably won't even have a
>> chance
>> of working. Do read back far enough and you'll realized that. Every
>> programmer and coder in the community didn't even attempt to work with
>> it.
>> NONE of the examples shown by others even meet the specs. Even after a
>> gave
>> up on the project, (with great humiliation) no one and I mean ABSOLUTELY
>> not
>> a single man or woman, boy or girl in the Commodore community even
>> attempted
>> it afterwards.
>
>
> what he says is true !
>
>
>
>> In order for DOOM to work, it would have taken so much stripping down of
>> the
>> gfx and all that it would probably be unplayable and visually incoherent.
>> This community doesn't want to hear about projects until it is done. Do
>> keep
>> in mind that people also were bringing the topic up. I have not taken on
>> any
>> project since then that I am not confident that I can do it.
>
>
> Excelsior OS ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Um, sorry, that was pre-dating anything regarding DOOM64 and I didn't update
the page since I quit the DOOM project. I also didn't do much of any work on
that website. That was already cancelled. It was also just a waste of space
on the website. The website is meaningless anyway. Since it no longer is in
operation anymore.
>> When people flame him for even doing something with the website, it is
>> obvious. It is one thing to flame someone for not doing anything. Is
>> there
>> any resemblance of a friendly community left? hell no. People are more
>> interested in flaming and attacking each other then helping. That is what
>> sucks. Talk about embarassment.
>
> your spelling is an embarrassment.
You're checking the dictionary of every word that may have one or two r's or
s's is an embarrassment. Sorry, I don't have a dictionary nearby to double
check the spelling and spell checker in the Outlook Express does NOT work.
It also is not reliable to checkk for spellling errrorss. All it brings up
is "The spelling check is complete." Ok, it is totally useless.
> you have NO sense of humor.
I'm sorry that I do not find flaming people just for shits and grins is a
funny, joyous matter. There is ragging and there is downright malicious
(sorry, if spelling is incorrect) intent of people trying to hurt other
people's feelings, emotionally. It is sickening that you find joy in hurting
other people. Is that what this Commodore community about? The last that I
checked, this whole Commodore community on usenet and internet, is for
people to share knowledge and help others in regards to matters relating to
Commodore. You think that flaming other people that you make yourself
important. In the end, it won't mean a damn thing because you drive people
away. All that be left are a bunch of assholes and no help for anyone who
dares to ask for help. This whole flaming thing has gone on before I even
been on this newsgroup. What I find of you and others that goes around
flaming people are disgraceful to Commodore computing.
Look at you guys flaming Kyle? Come on. I simply said that in this
community, it is harsh and never speak about something until it is done. Oh,
and I didn't think anyone cared a damn about the wavestarinteractive.com
website. So, it was all bullshit website anyway. It didn't matter one iota
of the website content. There has not been any intent to work on this
"Excelsior OS" for any intent. I have not even started working on it in any
degree or consider it as something that I will dedicate myself to.
Doom64 was a mistake and I gave up on the project.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186162 is a reply to message #186146] |
Sat, 17 November 2007 20:32 |
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Originally posted by: Kyle J Cardoza
Patrick de Zeester caught my attention by saying:
> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
>> Patrick de Zeester caught my attention by saying:
>>
>>> Golan Klinger wrote:
>>>> Kyle J Cardoza wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Not everyone can be a great web designer.
>>>> Evidently you too fall into this category. I suppose it's fitting
>>>> that you've made a webpage that looks like it is from 1995 to sell
>>>> stuff that looks like it is from 1985 made by a guy who looks like
>>>> he's from 1975.
>>>>
>>>> Oddly, it's an improvement over what he had before. Go figure.
>>>
>>> Actually, I think it is pretty good, at least for those who prefer
>>> well organized content over flashy stuff with hard to find, if any,
>>> content.
>>
>> Jeezie Chreezie... I don't even have the stylesheet written yet, and
>> people are judging it. Guys, it was revealed weeks before it was ready,
>> so hold up on the criticism. Wait 'till it's done, then flame away;
>> I'll be too busy enjoying the fruits of my labour to care.
>
> Ehhh...I was not criticizing you, my remark was intended as a
> compliment. I know my English is far from perfect, but I never realized
> it was this bad. A nice stylesheet would be just icing on the cake, no
> amount of CSS trickery can compensate for lack of content or poor
> navigation.
Actually, my tirade above was directed at others; your post just happened
to be the one I was reading when I got fed up enough with the topic to
take the time to post. Sorry for the confusion.
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Sat, 17 November 2007 22:36 |
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On Nov 17, 6:28 pm, "Wildstar" <wildstar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "christianlott1" <christianlo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> Spork64
>> DOOM64
>
>> i see the resemblance.
>
> Spork 64 has absolutely nothing to do with DOOM 64. Only resemblance is the
> numbers 64. Oh, that was because it was in reference to Commodore 64.
again, you have no sense of humor. you are now the problem drama
queen.
>> Excelsior OS ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>
> Um, sorry, that was pre-dating anything regarding DOOM64 and I didn't update
> the page since I quit the DOOM project. I also didn't do much of any work on
> that website. That was already cancelled. It was also just a waste of space
> on the website. The website is meaningless anyway. Since it no longer is in
> operation anymore.
Excelsior was canceled?
since when?
>>> That is what
>>> sucks. Talk about embarassment.
>
>> your spelling is an embarrassment.
>
> You're checking the dictionary of every word that may have one or two r's or
> s's is an embarrassment. Sorry, I don't have a dictionary nearby to double
> check the spelling and spell checker in the Outlook Express does NOT work.
> It also is not reliable to checkk for spellling errrorss. All it brings up
> is "The spelling check is complete." Ok, it is totally useless.
.... ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>> you have NO sense of humor.
.... ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> I'm sorry that I do not find flaming people just for shits and grins is a
> funny, joyous matter. There is ragging and there is downright malicious
> (sorry, if spelling is incorrect) intent of people trying to hurt other
> people's feelings, emotionally. It is sickening that you find joy in hurting
> other people. Is that what this Commodore community about? The last that I
> checked, this whole Commodore community on usenet and internet, is for
> people to share knowledge and help others in regards to matters relating to
> Commodore. You think that flaming other people that you make yourself
> important. In the end, it won't mean a damn thing because you drive people
> away. All that be left are a bunch of assholes and no help for anyone who
> dares to ask for help. This whole flaming thing has gone on before I even
> been on this newsgroup. What I find of you and others that goes around
> flaming people are disgraceful to Commodore computing.
there are serious, profound psychological reasons for busting someones
bubble now and then.
> Look at you guys flaming Kyle? Come on. I simply said that in this
> community, it is harsh and never speak about something until it is done. Oh,
> and I didn't think anyone cared a damn about the wavestarinteractive.com
> website. So, it was all bullshit website anyway. It didn't matter one iota
> of the website content. There has not been any intent to work on this
> "Excelsior OS" for any intent. I have not even started working on it in any
> degree or consider it as something that I will dedicate myself to.
so you gave up on the OS 'game', huh?
> Doom64 was a mistake and I gave up on the project.
quitter.
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Sun, 18 November 2007 01:53 |
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"christianlott1" <christianlott1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> again, you have no sense of humor. you are now the problem drama
> queen.
ok. I'll leave that to be your interpretation.
>>> Excelsior OS ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>>
>> Um, sorry, that was pre-dating anything regarding DOOM64 and I didn't
>> update
>> the page since I quit the DOOM project. I also didn't do much of any work
>> on
>> that website. That was already cancelled. It was also just a waste of
>> space
>> on the website. The website is meaningless anyway. Since it no longer is
>> in
>> operation anymore.
>
>
> Excelsior was canceled?
> since when?
Ah, like several months before I quit the CommodoreScene Doom64 project. I
pretty much had quit ALL those projects during that period. It wasn't
necassarily an issue of whether or not I can do it someday. It never had a
deadline. I decided to quit that one because I didn't feel like I wanted to
put the time and energy into that project. Considering that project did not
have a deadline, it would fall into a category of "I can do it". Well,
loosely. If you don't have a deadline, you have the time to learn the
details of each step and make each step one bit at a time. But it wasn't
something that I had felt the need to concern myself with. Cancelling was
not based on, can I do it or not. It was an issue of the desire to. Also,
the statement context was that I did not "start a project since I quit the
CS Doom 64 project that I can not do if I recalled correctly."
Ok, there is one, however. As I think it through but it wasn't an OS or any
of that. It isn't exactly an issue of capable or not. There was code on this
one but it was kind of time and schedule and other matters that it was not
completed. It also isn't "cancelled" per se. It was a matter of determining
whether I want to put the time into programming. In that case, it is just
work that I can come back to later and finish. I have not dedicated myself
to do programming projects in any shape and form since Doom64. It maybe
because I don't have the interest into programming. Doing gfx to limited
degree. If the project involves too much work, I don't do it. I don't care
to put that much of my time into that stuff.
>>>> That is what
>>>> sucks. Talk about embarassment.
>>
>>> your spelling is an embarrassment.
>>
>> You're checking the dictionary of every word that may have one or two r's
>> or
>> s's is an embarrassment. Sorry, I don't have a dictionary nearby to
>> double
>> check the spelling and spell checker in the Outlook Express does NOT
>> work.
>> It also is not reliable to checkk for spellling errrorss. All it brings
>> up
>> is "The spelling check is complete." Ok, it is totally useless.
>
> ... ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>>> you have NO sense of humor.
> ... ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>
>
>> I'm sorry that I do not find flaming people just for shits and grins is a
>> funny, joyous matter. There is ragging and there is downright malicious
>> (sorry, if spelling is incorrect) intent of people trying to hurt other
>> people's feelings, emotionally. It is sickening that you find joy in
>> hurting
>> other people. Is that what this Commodore community about? The last that
>> I
>> checked, this whole Commodore community on usenet and internet, is for
>> people to share knowledge and help others in regards to matters relating
>> to
>> Commodore. You think that flaming other people that you make yourself
>> important. In the end, it won't mean a damn thing because you drive
>> people
>> away. All that be left are a bunch of assholes and no help for anyone who
>> dares to ask for help. This whole flaming thing has gone on before I even
>> been on this newsgroup. What I find of you and others that goes around
>> flaming people are disgraceful to Commodore computing.
>
> there are serious, profound psychological reasons for busting someones
> bubble now and then.
lol, I don't think that satisfying your own sexual pleasures, by insulting
people, qualifies.
There is reasons to "busting someone's bubble now and then". There is also
methods to do it and there is also a licensing requirement for "practicing
psychology". You have to be certified to present yourself as such. If you
think going around saying the methods that you are doing is for health of
people's psychology then I must assume that you are qualified and licensed
to practice psychology. I hope the licensing board is amused when they hear
about an unlicensed person presenting themselves as a psychologist.
>> Look at you guys flaming Kyle? Come on. I simply said that in this
>> community, it is harsh and never speak about something until it is done.
>> Oh,
>> and I didn't think anyone cared a damn about the wavestarinteractive.com
>> website. So, it was all bullshit website anyway. It didn't matter one
>> iota
>> of the website content. There has not been any intent to work on this
>> "Excelsior OS" for any intent. I have not even started working on it in
>> any
>> degree or consider it as something that I will dedicate myself to.
>
>
> so you gave up on the OS 'game', huh?
duh. I had pretty much decided that programming isn't my thing and I don't
want to put the time into doing programming.
>> Doom64 was a mistake and I gave up on the project.
>
> quitter.
First off, the SCPU on loan had to be returned and I honored that.
There was a relative timeline on that. Without the SCPU, there was no point
in continuing work on that project. No SuperCPU would be ordered from
Maurice and arrive by 2010.
Also, I don't want to do programming. I'm not entirely interested in going
down that route. Doom64 was the final straw in that. I decided that it is
time to look into other kinds of work/profession and go that route in terms
of education and practice. If you are that far behind, I have already went
to doing stuff in the lines of designing buildings. Get a certificate in
CAD. Next step is obtaing a bachelor degress in architecture. (5 year degree
by the way) Then IDP (Intern Development Program). Then take the exams (ARE
and JE exam). In Oregon, that is what it will take to be licensed as an
"architect" and practice architecture on "non-exempt" buildings.
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| Re: 8-Bit Designs "NEW WEBSITE!" :):):):) [message #186188 is a reply to message #186172] |
Sun, 18 November 2007 14:17 |
christianlott1
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On Nov 18, 12:53 am, "Wildstar" <wildstar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "christianlott1" <christianlo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> Excelsior was canceled?
>> since when?
>
> Ah, like several months before I quit the CommodoreScene Doom64 project. I
> pretty much had quit ALL those projects during that period. It wasn't
> necassarily an issue of whether or not I can do it someday. It never had a
> deadline. I decided to quit that one because I didn't feel like I wanted to
> put the time and energy into that project. Considering that project did not
> have a deadline, it would fall into a category of "I can do it". Well,
> loosely. If you don't have a deadline, you have the time to learn the
> details of each step and make each step one bit at a time. But it wasn't
> something that I had felt the need to concern myself with. Cancelling was
> not based on, can I do it or not. It was an issue of the desire to. Also,
> the statement context was that I did not "start a project since I quit the
> CS Doom 64 project that I can not do if I recalled correctly."
>
> Ok, there is one, however. As I think it through but it wasn't an OS or any
> of that. It isn't exactly an issue of capable or not. There was code on this
> one but it was kind of time and schedule and other matters that it was not
> completed. It also isn't "cancelled" per se. It was a matter of determining
> whether I want to put the time into programming. In that case, it is just
> work that I can come back to later and finish. I have not dedicated myself
> to do programming projects in any shape and form since Doom64. It maybe
> because I don't have the interest into programming. Doing gfx to limited
> degree. If the project involves too much work, I don't do it. I don't care
> to put that much of my time into that stuff.
so what you're saying is you canceled all your programming projects
because you don't know how to program and don't want to learn.
>> there are serious, profound psychological reasons for busting someones
>> bubble now and then.
>
> lol, I don't think that satisfying your own sexual pleasures, by insulting
> people, qualifies.
> There is reasons to "busting someone's bubble now and then". There is also
> methods to do it and there is also a licensing requirement for "practicing
> psychology". You have to be certified to present yourself as such. If you
> think going around saying the methods that you are doing is for health of
> people's psychology then I must assume that you are qualified and licensed
> to practice psychology. I hope the licensing board is amused when they hear
> about an unlicensed person presenting themselves as a psychologist.
was this your attempt at humor?
>> so you gave up on the OS 'game', huh?
>
> duh. I had pretty much decided that programming isn't my thing and I don't
> want to put the time into doing programming.
!
>> quitter.
!
> First off, the SCPU on loan had to be returned and I honored that.
> There was a relative timeline on that. Without the SCPU, there was no point
> in continuing work on that project. No SuperCPU would be ordered from
> Maurice and arrive by 2010.
>
> Also, I don't want to do programming. I'm not entirely interested in going
> down that route. Doom64 was the final straw in that. I decided that it is
> time to look into other kinds of work/profession and go that route in terms
> of education and practice. If you are that far behind, I have already went
> to doing stuff in the lines of designing buildings. Get a certificate in
> CAD. Next step is obtaing a bachelor degress in architecture. (5 year degree
> by the way) Then IDP (Intern Development Program). Then take the exams (ARE
> and JE exam). In Oregon, that is what it will take to be licensed as an
> "architect" and practice architecture on "non-exempt" buildings.
you're going to give up on that too.
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