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Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93066] Sat, 11 October 2003 16:20 Go to next message
korax1214 is currently offline  korax1214
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Or, come to that, ever did?

(I'm reminded of a dumb argument, circa 1980, claiming that the 6502
processor was "better" than the Z80 because it could handle graphics
and the Z80 could not! What nonsense -- neither the 6502, nor the
Z80, nor the Pentium 4 for that matter, can handle graphics; that's
the job of the support circuitry -- in the case of the CBM machines,
the VIC[1] chip which gave the VIC-20 its name.)

*And* the latest infantile moron was also an Anonymous Coward(TM), who
furthermore, as good as Godwinised himself by accusing everyone else
of being gay, as if that were A Bad Thing...

Please, let's give it a rest[2], it's boring...

[1] Apologies to Germain readers that this word is rude in your
language.

[2] At least, until the 2004 Annual Flamewar(TM)...
Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93069 is a reply to message #93066] Sat, 11 October 2003 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael J. Schülke is currently offline  Michael J. Schülke
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Robert J Baker wrote:

> (I'm reminded of a dumb argument, circa 1980, claiming that the 6502

> processor was "better" than the Z80 because it could handle graphics

> and the Z80 could not! What nonsense -- neither the 6502, nor the

> Z80, nor the Pentium 4 for that matter, can handle graphics; that's

> the job of the support circuitry -- in the case of the CBM machines,

> the VIC[1] chip which gave the VIC-20 its name.)


Not necessarily. You can synthesise video output with very little extra
hardware (two port pins and two resistors for a monochrome image),
computing the output "on the fly". There a few microcontroller projects
out there that work this way, like Rickard Gunée's PIC Game System,

http://www.rickard.gunee.com/projects/video/pic/gamesys.php

Regards,
Michael
Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93101 is a reply to message #93066] Sat, 11 October 2003 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toureiro is currently offline  Toureiro
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The word is not rude. Just the way it sounds...

> the VIC[1] chip which gave the VIC-20 its name.)

>
Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93121 is a reply to message #93066] Sun, 12 October 2003 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert J Baker <korax1214@mailandnews.co.uk> did eloquently scribble:
> Or, come to that, ever did?

>

> (I'm reminded of a dumb argument, circa 1980, claiming that the 6502

> processor was "better" than the Z80 because it could handle graphics

> and the Z80 could not! What nonsense -- neither the 6502, nor the

> Z80, nor the Pentium 4 for that matter, can handle graphics; that's

> the job of the support circuitry -- in the case of the CBM machines,

> the VIC[1] chip which gave the VIC-20 its name.)


Not entirely true, robert...
It's not done, but it IS possible..
CPUs are fast enough to render a screen... they'd just spend most of their
time doing it. :)

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Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93510 is a reply to message #93066] Sun, 12 October 2003 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Slightly off topic - is there a VIC-20/VC20 emulator at all? I suddenly

get
> the urge to try out "The Perils Of Willy" - which always seemed like a

> clever bit of compression....

>

> (And yes - I'm a Spectrum & SAM Coupe user - but then again, my system is

> also running a nice SID sound card as well ;) - so perhaps I'm a C64 user

> indirectly also! :)


Try VICE (http://viceteam.bei.t-online.de/), it emulates most 8-bit
Commodores including the VIC-20.

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Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93516 is a reply to message #93066] Sun, 12 October 2003 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert J Baker wrote:
>

> *And* the latest infantile moron was also an Anonymous Coward(TM), who

> furthermore, as good as Godwinised himself by accusing everyone else

> of being gay, as if that were A Bad Thing...

>


Gays are nazis now?

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Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93526 is a reply to message #93516] Sun, 12 October 2003 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sun, 12 Oct
2003 15:16:19 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,
yawatina tan reek esk fuzzbucket <myarse@yourface.com> fornis do marikano es
bono tan el:

> Robert J Baker wrote:

>>

>> *And* the latest infantile moron was also an Anonymous Coward(TM), who

>> furthermore, as good as Godwinised himself by accusing everyone else

>> of being gay, as if that were A Bad Thing...

>>

>

> Gays are nazis now?


Gays have always been nazis. Hitler was the campest German to ever live.

deKay
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Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93566 is a reply to message #93066] Sun, 12 October 2003 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In <fe420e86.0310111220.2eb2c0db@posting.google.com> Robert J Baker
wrote:
> Or, come to that, ever did?

>

> What nonsense -- neither the 6502, nor the

> Z80, nor the Pentium 4 for that matter, can handle graphics


Put the Pentium 4 make teh interweb better and stuff!
Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93567 is a reply to message #93526] Sun, 12 October 2003 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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deKay wrote:
>> Gays are nazis now?

>

> Gays have always been nazis. Hitler was the campest German to ever

> live.

>


Your ideas intrigue me and i would like to subscribe to your newsletter...

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Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93574 is a reply to message #93567] Sun, 12 October 2003 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sun, 12 Oct
2003 18:50:39 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,
yawatina tan reek esk fuzzbucket <myarse@yourface.com> fornis do marikano es
bono tan el:

> deKay wrote:

>>> Gays are nazis now?

>>

>> Gays have always been nazis. Hitler was the campest German to ever

>> live.

>>

>

> Your ideas intrigue me and i would like to subscribe to your newsletter...


Please come to my seminar entitled "Hitler Was A Fag, and Why The Germans Like
Moustaches".

deKay
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Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93865 is a reply to message #93526] Sun, 12 October 2003 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:05:20 +0100 da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin'
to MC deKay:

>>> *And* the latest infantile moron was also an Anonymous Coward(TM), who

>>> furthermore, as good as Godwinised himself by accusing everyone else

>>> of being gay, as if that were A Bad Thing...

>>>

>>

>> Gays are nazis now?

>

> Gays have always been nazis. Hitler was the campest German to ever live.


Yeah, that moustache is a dead giveaway. ;-)

Chris

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Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93868 is a reply to message #93066] Sun, 12 October 2003 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Την/On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:34:48 +0000 (UTC),ο(η) david
<david@nada.nada.nada> έγραψε/wrote:

>

>

> "Chris Young" <chrisy@activatormail.com> wrote in message

> news:3F89AE82.MD-1.4.17.chrisy@activatormail.com...

>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:05:20 +0100 da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were

> rappin'

>> to MC deKay:

>

>>> Gays have always been nazis. Hitler was the campest German to ever

> live.

>>

>> Yeah, that moustache is a dead giveaway. ;-)

>>

>> Chris

>>

>

> Why do I get a mental picture of adolf doing the YMCA dance?

>

>

>


Hmmm Village People? :D
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Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93935 is a reply to message #93526] Mon, 13 October 2003 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote in message news:<bd2jovg3jhij5kakht4ne0akb9k2q1sttp@4ax.com>...
> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sun, 12 Oct

> 2003 15:16:19 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,

> yawatina tan reek esk fuzzbucket <myarse@yourface.com> fornis do marikano es

> bono tan el:

>

>> Robert J Baker wrote:

>>>

>>> *And* the latest infantile moron was also an Anonymous Coward(TM), who

>>> furthermore, as good as Godwinised himself by accusing everyone else

>>> of being gay, as if that were A Bad Thing...

>>>

>>

>> Gays are nazis now?

>

> Gays have always been nazis. Hitler was the campest German to ever live.

>

> deKay



Hitler was Austrian.
Re: Why do trolls continue to delude themselves that the differences between 8-bits still matter? [message #93937 is a reply to message #93935] Mon, 13 October 2003 08:21 Go to previous message
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On 13 Oct 2003 04:51:26 -0700, tayles@mailandnews.com (Tayles) wrote:

> deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote in message news:<bd2jovg3jhij5kakht4ne0akb9k2q1sttp@4ax.com>...

>> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sun, 12 Oct

>> 2003 15:16:19 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,

>> yawatina tan reek esk fuzzbucket <myarse@yourface.com> fornis do marikano es

>> bono tan el:

>>

>>> Robert J Baker wrote:

>>>>

>>>> *And* the latest infantile moron was also an Anonymous Coward(TM), who

>>>> furthermore, as good as Godwinised himself by accusing everyone else

>>>> of being gay, as if that were A Bad Thing...

>>>>

>>>

>>> Gays are nazis now?

>>

>> Gays have always been nazis. Hitler was the campest German to ever live.

>>

>> deKay

>

> Hitler was Austrian.


And German (after he received German citizenship in 1932).

And wasn't it Herman Goering who was the raving Mac user?[*]

[*] I realise using the term "raving Mac user" to refer to homosexuals
might be seen by some (humourless) people as a tad inflammatory, but it
makes me laugh. And I'm just a lowly Windows user, so I need all the
laughs I can get. :o
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