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Retro computing and gaming, sci-fi books, tv and movies and other geeky stuff.Mark Gruenwald
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Date: Sun, 10-Mar-85 18:09:43 EST
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From: Mike Ciaraldi
I had a long talk with Mark Gruenwald today at a convention
in Rochester (longer report to follow).
He had a lot of questions about computer communications, especially
usenet, related to a story he has coming up in Captain America
(again, more to follow).
I'm going to send him more info, but I was wondering if there
was someone from his area (NYC) who might be able to
talk with Mark more conveniently, and maybe give him a demo.
Since I never really notice where messages come from, I
thought I should send this out, and if someone likely
turns up, send him Mark's address.
Mike Ciaraldi
seismo!rochester!ciaraldi
]]>ciaraldi2013-09-18T19:42:41-00:00Re: Japanese Animation (& non-empty tv in general)
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I'd like to second the recommendation of The Mighty Orebots TV show -
there's a clear dedication to detail and imagination in purely depictive
and 3d effects (solid perspective and dynamic, convincing motion) and,
what's more, the characerizations aren't kinda fun. In fact, I wish
they had longer than a half hour format, so that they could develop a
plot that would actually sustain the potential personality of the
characters. Realistically, though, this is saturday morning
programming, an abyss of personality for almost as long as I can
remember (I just barely caught bullwinkle and rocky before they were
gone... even new bugs bunny episodes are too empty looking (and
feeling) to watch...), and this show is not only generally bearable, but
is actually satisfying, at least in terms of its graphics.
By the way, it strikes me as somehow ironic to be submitting an article,
which I do not do frequently, on the topic of a saturday morning tv
program. It's not what I would usually think of among issues of great
moment. On second thought, though, I remember how important it was (and
still is) to find the substance of the genuine human content always
hinted at by (so rarely honest) traces in the media. The potential seems
so high, if only for solid, gratifying escapism, and maybe, just maybe,
for a substantial contribution to our perspectives on the world.
Um, well, you know what I mean. ?
Oh well...
Ken Manheimer ...!seismo!nbs-amrf!manheimer
(Existence is influence. Probably.)
]]>manheimer2013-09-18T19:42:39-00:00_V for Vendetta_ puzzle
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I was so impressed with Alan Moore's deviousness after reading _Warrior_
#25 that I had to post this little puzzle. I know what Valerie's last
name is. Her last name may or may not be important in itself (I'm not
telling), but how I figured it out probably is. Has anyone else
realized the answer to this? (It's very, very subtle, even for Mr.
Moore.)
Micah Doyle
micah@mit-athena.ARPA
decvax!mit-athena!micah
]]>micah2013-09-18T19:42:38-00:00Re: All-Points Call for Super-Chicken Theme
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While we're on this subject, can anyone tell me the name of the ape
in George of the Jungle? One person's posting of the song said it
was "ape" but another person's posting had slightly different lyrics
that didn't give a name.
--
Scott Wiesner
{allegra, ucbvax, hao}!nbires!scott
]]>scott2013-09-18T19:42:38-00:00Subscription Services
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Date: Fri, 8-Mar-85 12:04:51 EST
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I don't know if messages about subscription services have appeared
before on net.comics but I thought I'd present my experiences with
Westfield.
For 6 months I've been using the Westfield Comics subscription service.
I highly reccomend it for those considering a subscription service.
I used to use a local store service. But they gave only 10% off, sometimes
missed issues, and PA sales tax on top meant I wasn't saving anything and
was still missing desired issues.
Three of us here order from Westfield and combine orders. So we order 30-40
comics a month. We've always had prompt service. There are options for
monthly or biweekly shipping rate. We opted for the monthly rate. There
is a $40.00 min order for the biweekly rate. Only $10 for the monthly.
You can select which you want at any time just by checking a box
on your new order form.
The shipping is done UPS and in very sturdy boxes. The comics are grouped
flat in several bags (not individually). You also pay only for exact
shipping charges. That runs about $2-$2.50 and we get many magazines in our
order. These boxes are tough, and I save them for my use when I need strong
small boxes in shipping.
The single minor problem we've had was when Beauty and the Beast #? was
shipped instead of Kitty and Wolverine #5, I called and they said don't
bother sending the issues back, just enclose a note with the new order!
Now, the stuff does often arrive on the newstand slightly before we get our
shipment. This doesn't bother me but might annoy some who are waiting
anxiously for some issue(s).
In any case, Westfield has been reliable and thoroughly professional. The
order forms for next months shipment are enclosed with the present shipment
and is a clear well laid out form. There is a Credit and Debit corner in the
event of over or undepayments, or a title has been cancelled, rescheduled or
undergone a price change.
The prices are 30%-40% off cover prices. For example: $0.65 cover prices
are $0.45 $1.50 cover are $1.00 $20.00 portfolio's are $15.00
Magazines like Epic that have $2.50 cover are $1.85 The pricing
structure is similar for all lines. I think this is a pretty substantial
savings and there is no tax. There is a $1 maintenance fee on each order
for overhead.
Mags and Fanzines carried are Amazing Heroes, Captain Britain,
Comic Interview, Comics Journal, Dragon, Dr. Who, Epic, Enterprise
Incidents, Fangoria, Heavy Metal, Prevue, SS of Conan, Starburst, Starlog,
Warrior, Twilight Zone, Nemo, occasional special 'zines.
Good line of independents from First, Eagle, Comico, Kitchen Sink, Eclipse,
Americomics, Fantagraphics...
Marvel and DC of course, and a full category of Special Publications
(may be published irregularly). Portfolios, posters, buttons, books,
Overstreet price guides, Cochran's EC library series, Barks pubs,
Elfquest, Cerebus etc...
I have found the newsletter to be fairly informative about new offerings
and have made several buying decisions based on it. You get Marvel Age
free, sometimes they enclose companies' promo posters and other little
goodies like DC Releases, First in..., and Eagle News are also enclosed
in each newsletter shipment (with the comics you last ordered).
If something hasn't arrived in time to be shipped then a sheet is enclosed
showing exactly what will be shipped in your next order.
They are:
Westfield Comics
6515 Grand Teton Plaza
Madison, WI 53719
(608) 833-2122
I'd be interested in hearing opinions on other subscription services too.
nivek
Aka: Kevin Dowling
Arpanet: nivek@cmu-ri-rover
Bell: (412) 578-8830
USmail: Robotics Institute CMU
Schenley Park
Pgh, PA 15213
]]>nivek2013-09-18T19:42:34-00:00Re: Shatter #1
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Date: Fri, 8-Mar-85 11:01:17 EST
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[color=blue]> Can it be that no one else has seen this excellent comic? Or am I[/color]
[color=blue]> hopelessly behind the times and missed the discussion?[/color]
I have been eagerly awaiting Shatter, but as of
yesterday (3/6) it hadn't shown up in local shops.
One manager said he was wondering, because he had
already seen a review from an English magazine!
[color=blue]> with MacPaint, one page per MacPaint picture. Color was done with an[/color]
[color=blue]> airbrush. They say "we could create the color on the Mac, but it would[/color]
[color=blue]> take far, far too much time." Any ideas what they had in mind? I haven't[/color]
[color=blue]> seen any attempt at color on a Mac.[/color]
I think the only way to do color on a Mac right now is to
make 4 pictures of the same scene, 1 representing each of
the printing colors--red, yellow, blue, and black.
You could do this by first making the monochrome picture,
making some copies, and deleting the dots that
wouldn't appear in each color.
Then if you used, say, color ribbon on the Imagewriter,
and printed onto clear paper, you could print out the
four images (each in a different color), stack them
up, and see a full-color picture.
A comic book company would just turn the 4 pictures
(printed in black) over to the printer, and the printer
(the person, not the machine) would print them with
different color inks.
This is sort-of the way comics are done now.
With hand-separation, the usual method for Marvel and DC,
a copy of the black and white original is colored by the
colorist, and sent to "separators". They cut out plastic film
into shapes that fill in the colored area. An area that is
red would go onto the copy that would be printed
in red ink, an area that should be green would go onto
both the blue and yellow copies, etc.
The film has a dot pattern on it, with different films
ranging from 25% to 100% coverage.
So, to get different shades, the colorist can specify
say, 25% blue, 100% yellow for a particular green.
The separators dutifully cut out some 25% dots in the
pattern of the green area and stick them on the green copy,
and some 100% dots for the blue copy.
The dots themselves are physically black, it's just that
when the four originals (red, yellow, blue, black) are
put into the press, either red, yellow, blue, or black
ink is loaded in.
This is somewhat of a simplification, because a modern
press prints all the colors one after the other as
the paper moves through it, but I hope you get the idea.
Most magazines use photo-separation, i.e. a series of filters
turn the full-color original into the 4 single-color copies.
This is automatic, but more expensive.
Photo-separation (and its new descendant, laser-scanning)
permit very fine increments of shading (rather than the 3
or 4 steps of each primary color), and color changes across a
very small part of the picture, rather than just as thin
as a person with a knife can cut.
All of this explains why standard comics have large areas of
constant color, and magazines like Time (or certain deluxe
comics) have a broader palette and more subtlety.
You can see more of this in the Marvel Try-Out Book.
Mike Ciaraldi
seismo!rochester!ciaraldi
]]>ciaraldi2013-09-18T19:42:32-00:00Shatter #1
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Date: Thu, 7-Mar-85 14:23:25 EST
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Can it be that no one else has seen this excellent comic? Or am I
hopelessly behind the times and missed the discussion?
_Shatter_ was put out recently by First Comics (who saved our Madison
favorite son, _The Badger_). The artwork and lettering is done entirely on
an Apple Macintosh by Michael Saenz. And if you think you can't be
impressed any more by drawings done on a Mac, check this out. He's done an
amazing job -- many of the pictures look like they were digitized from
photographs. The inside cover gives some inside information on the
production of the magazine. They don't say, but apparently it was all done
with MacPaint, one page per MacPaint picture. Color was done with an
airbrush. They say "we could create the color on the Mac, but it would
take far, far too much time." Any ideas what they had in mind? I haven't
seen any attempt at color on a Mac.
The story by Peter Gillis is set in the future (several centuries from now,
I think) and is about a guy whose Arabic name Sadr is pronounced "Shatter".
He, like many others, lives by taking temporary jobs through a centralized
computer job search, and the police department is one of the big employers.
He decides to go for the big money by going after a (beautiful, of course)
woman wanted for murder. Reminds me a bit of Blade Runner. The story was
enjoyable, but it's the art that really stands out.
Shatter will be featured in _John Sable, Freelance_ for now, but will
eventually have its own title. (This one is billed as a special issue.) I
don't know whether you can order direct from the publisher, but in case you
can't find First Comics in your area, the address is:
First Comics
1014 W David St
Evanston Illinois
60201
The price is $1.75 US, $2.25 Canadian.
P.S. I'll leave the letter grading to the regular reviewers!
--
Bill Kelly
{allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!bllklly
1210 West Dayton St/U Wisconsin Madison/Mad WI 53706
"I will not harm any vehicle or the physical contents thereof,
nor through inaction allow harm to come to a vehicle or the
physical contents thereof." -- The Repo Code
]]>bllklly2013-09-18T19:42:29-00:00Tom Slick
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From: Mike Ciaraldi
I always thought it was...
"In his Thunderbolt Greaseslapper, now
He's on your trail."
i.e. the missing word is "now".
Maybe this is just gestalt filling in the word.
While we are on the subject of missing words
(but not from animated shows), I have wondered
for years what adjective describes Lola's voice in the Kinks song.
i.e. "I asked her her name and in a **** voice she said, 'Lola.'"
It always sounds like "suff-rone" phonetically to me.
Any one know?
Mike Ciaraldi
seismo!rochester!ciaraldi
]]>ciaraldi2013-09-18T19:42:29-00:00Re: All-Points Call for Super-Chicken Theme
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The main thing that I remember about George was a scene that they continually
showed while waiting for commercials. George is in a tree waiting to swing
down and recuse Ape who is in jail. Ape takes out all kinds of measuring
tools and says to George:
Ape: A little to you left. Little to your right. O.K. Hold it! Now if
my calculations are correct, 98.2. O.K. Swing George.
George: Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah (yells and swings)
Ape: Or was it 98.6?
Geroge crashes into a tree.
Ape: Yes, 98.6.
Those were the days!
OZ
seismo!rlgvax!oz
]]>oz2013-09-18T19:42:28-00:00Superboy #205
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Date: Tue, 5-Mar-85 17:44:01 EST
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Forgive me if you have seen this before. I'm reposting
this because I'm not sure it made it off of this machine
the first time.
I'm looking for Superboy #205 in Very Good to Mint
condition. Willing to negotiate price since I've been
looking for this issue for over a year with no
sucess and it will complete my collection of Legion
of Superheros. If you have Issue #205 and are interrested
in selling send e-mail to cae780!ubvax!gdave or call
(408) 496-0111 ex. 160.
]]>gdave2013-09-18T19:42:27-00:00